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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 07/17/22 at 10:51:33

Title: How much coverage will it get?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/17/22 at 10:51:33

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/another-one-actual-good-guy-with-a-gun-kills-man-on-violent-crime-spree/

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by Serowbot on 07/17/22 at 11:27:03

Truth about guns is,... for every "good guy with gun" story you can find, there are tragedy's of family members killed in gun accidents by guns in the home.
Statistically, a person is more likely to be killed by a gun in the house than anywhere else.
Being a gun owner puts your own family more at risk of being killed.
So the odds just just work out.

Never will.
You wanna' report that?

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/17/22 at 12:32:58

I'm not interested in reporting what I have no reason to believe, but you should be getting rid of your cannon.

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/17/22 at 13:54:03

All my life I've known people who owned guns. Not one time has anyone I knew been injured by a gun. I'm surprised E hasn't taken you to task for pushing that lameass lefty bullshit.

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by pg on 07/17/22 at 13:54:21

Yeah Bot, how many guns do you still own?

Best regards,

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by MnSpring on 07/17/22 at 17:50:32

6771667B63767B60140 wrote:

"Truth about guns is,... for every "good guy with gun" story you can find, there are tragedy's of family members killed in gun accidents by guns in the home..."

INCORRECT

"...Statistically, a person is more likely to be killed by a gun in the house than anywhere else..."

INCORRECT

"...Being a gun owner puts your own family more at risk of being killed..."

INCORRECT

But hey,
just keep repeating the Lies
you are TOLD to say !

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by Eegore on 07/17/22 at 19:10:31

"Statistically, a person is more likely to be killed by a gun in the house than anywhere else"

This is correct when you account for suicide.

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/17/22 at 20:16:57

Biig fukkin deal
Suicidal people are able to achieve room temperature without a gun.
It's a bulshit argument
And the second amendment is what it is so there is that

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by Eegore on 07/17/22 at 20:24:02

"Biig fukkin deal
Suicidal people are able to achieve room temperature without a gun.
It's a bulshit argument
And the second amendment is what it is so there is that"

I don't care if its a "big deal" to anyone. It's statistically accurate. Also known as truth, and truth won't always align with your opinions.

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/17/22 at 20:43:43

Honestly, not only do I absolutely not give ashit,I don't buy it.

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/17/22 at 20:44:41

Trump won but it's not a popular opinion, well, fact.

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/17/22 at 21:44:43

How many people have been shot, how many killed,in Gun Free Zones?

Had the geniuses who just KNEW that the people who were bent on killing as many people as possible would SeeTheSIGN and realize, Hey,It's ILLEGAL to take my gun in that school! Well, I WAS gonna commit murder today, but I CAN'T, because they put that sign up!!

Take the statistics that you lefties MADE WORSE and use them to try to restrict weapons in the hands of the average person. You see, the Average Person is NOT the murderer. The Average Person is a decent human being.
Instead of dismissing the Good Guy With a Gun as an aberration, something that happens so rarely it can't be considered in crime stopping.

Hey,Wally,,you spose if the lefties stopped making it so hard for Good Guys to CARRY guns, the Good Guy With a Gun would become a larger percentage of Times the Bad Guy With a Gun got KILLT before he had a chance to fill up the morgue??

Chief: 3 dead in Indiana mall shooting; witness kills gunman
Associated Press
ASSOCIATED PRESS
July 17, 2022, 8:38 PM

FILE - Shoppers leave the Greenwood Park Mall on May 4, 2020, in Greenwood, Ind. Indianapolis Metropolitan Police say two people were killed in a shooting Sunday, July 17, 2022, at the mall in Greenwood and multiple other people were taken to hospitals with injuries. (AP Photo/Darron Cummings, File) (ASSOCIATED PRESS)
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GREENWOOD, Ind. (AP) — Three people were fatally shot and two were injured Sunday evening at an Indiana mall after a man with a rifle opened fire in a food court and an armed civilian shot and killed him, police said.

The man entered the Greenwood Park Mall with a rifle and several magazines of ammunition and began firing in the food court, Greenwood Police Department Chief Jim Ison said.

An armed civilian killed the man, Ison said at a news conference. In total, four people were killed and two were injured, he said.

Officers went to the mall at about 6 p.m. for reports of the shooting. Authorities are searching the mall for any other victims, but they believes the shooting was contained to the food court.

Police have confiscated a suspicious backpack that was in a bathroom near the food court, Ison said.

Indianapolis Metropolitan Police and multiple other agencies are assisting in the investigation.

“We are sickened by yet another type of incident like this in our country,” Indianapolis Assistant Chief of Police Chris Bailey said.

Greenwood is a south suburb of Indianapolis with a population of about 60,000.

Because lefties will not learn,America suffers. Where the population are armed, violent crime drops.

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by MnSpring on 07/17/22 at 21:45:08

624240485542270 wrote:

"Statistically, a person is more likely to be killed by a gun in the house than anywhere else"
This is correct when you account for suicide.

Is correct ONLY, when you account for suicide.

“More than two-thirds of all gun deaths are self-inflicted.”

“Suicide is the tenth leading cause of death in America. From ages 10 to 34, it is the second leading cause, claiming more lives than homicide or heart disease.”

“65 people kill themselves with a gun every day”

“According to the data, there were 38,882 deaths by firearms in 2017, and 23,854 were suicides”

“More people in the US die from suicide involving a firearm than homicides or accidents”

That’s OK,
Bot is IMPLYING something else !

But you knew that, didn’t you !

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by Eegore on 07/18/22 at 07:10:33

That’s OK,
Bot is IMPLYING something else !

But you knew that, didn’t you !

I don't care what people IMPLY, only one of the three were correct which is what I was addressing.

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by Eegore on 07/18/22 at 07:11:47

"Honestly, not only do I absolutely not give ashit,I don't buy it."

You don't have to. The statistics are present and have been for decades. MnSpring presented some here as well.

Truth doesn't need you to agree.

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by MnSpring on 07/18/22 at 08:43:28

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2022/07/18/good-guy-with-gun-stopped-indiana-mall-shooter-as-soon-as-he-began-n2610383

https://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/collection/good-guy-gun-stopped-bad-guy-gun/
(link has 11, ‘good guy’)
https://www.theblaze.com/news/houston-cop-thwarts-mass-shooting-mall

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/07/18/good-guy-with-a-gun-22-kills-shooter-ends-bloody-massacre-in-indiana-shopping-mall-1262849/

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/07/a_good_guy_with_a_gun_stopped_an_armed_bad_guy_on_a_murderous_rampage.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/e2-80-98good-samaritan-with-a-gun-stopped-greenwood-park-mall-shooting-went-against-malls-code-of-conduct/ar-AAZHfFr

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2022/07/18/good-guy-with-a-gun-armed-citizen-kills-mass-shooter-n483412

https://www.independentsentinel.com/a-good-guy-with-a-gun-stopped-a-mass-shooter/

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/good-guy-with-a-gun-shoots-and-kills-bad-guy-on-a-violent-crime-spree/

“FBI Report Lends Credence to “Good Guy With a Gun”
(Year 2018)
https://www.uslawshield.com/fbi-report-good-guy-gun/

And ON, and ON, and On …

Now to explain this to the UL, DFI FDS Socialists.

If you JUST, go stats,
JUST TO IMPLY,
that guns are bad, because of mass shootings.
(Where many are killed)
and it is news 24/7.

VS a, A STOPPED shooter,
Where a ‘Good Guy With Gun”
STOPPED, the shooting.
Their were NOT,
many killed.
And No, or VERY LITTLE news about how,
how a ‘Good Guy With Gun”, STOPPED,
what, could have been many, Many times, the fatality numbers.

If the UL, DFI, FDS Socialists
get there ‘gun banning’, way,
there will be MORE Gun Fatalities.
Simply because
the ‘bad guy’ WILL ALWAYS, get a Gun,
and the Good Guys,
will NOT have one.

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/18/22 at 09:08:05

The stats they trot out are what they are Because of THEIR idiotic policies.
They can quote the mass shooting numbers because it's Been illegal for Good Guys to CARRY guns. Now that it's getting more reasonable, more Constitutional, we are Seeing how effective having armed citizens really is. If the average was about15% carrying, it wouldn't be long till the bad guys would have to stop and think about it. It would be Gettin pretty risky. And As Constitutional laws take over and more people are walking around armed, the number of innocents murdered will drop.
I sure would like to see the actual numbers of the dead kids and teachers, because some geniuses actually Believe that a MURDERER would be deterred by a God darned SIGN.. That is the heights of stupidity.

Pointing to the stats telling us the number of innocent people dead because some jakkass with a gun decided to go see how many people he could kill is nothing but fear mongering. You want to see that number drop? Make it easier for regular people to be armed. You see, if there is nobody to stop the bad guys, they can just shoot until they run out of bullets or targets. But when American citizens don't have idiots controlling them and frustrating their efforts to be prepared so they can defend themselves and the people around them, THEY become The First Responders. In the recent past this has been Demonstrated. Why am I not seeing new attitudes? Why are our beloved lefties not saying things like
Gee,Wally, I always thought a guy had to be a cop to be able to stop an armed madman shooting innocent people.
What is it goin to take to get you folks to admit that, not Only were the bad guys stopped, there weren't a buncha innocent people injured or killed Because the Good Guy was a lousy shot? I read a report, been a few years, a few cops were shooting at a guy who was in the street and while they were missing him, they were punching holes in the people on the sidewalk.
People who carry, as near as I can tell, take that responsibility seriously. They aren't cops,they are regular folks who don't want to be defenseless or helpless to protect their fellow citizens.

Make your arguments. Explain why I'm wrong. I'm planning on going fishing soon. I'll take all the crikkets I'm sure I'm about to get.

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/18/22 at 19:34:11

http://https://slowfacts.wordpress.com/2022/05/17/more-people-dead-as-gun-control-fails-in-new-york-state/

https://slowfacts.wordpress.com/2022/05/17/more-people-dead-as-gun-control-fails-in-new-york-state/

The idiots who have managed to get their voices heard are responsible for a lot of dead/injured kids and teachers . How many more than that?
Ohh,Warriors
Come out and Plaaa aay.

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/19/22 at 07:01:21

4C6C6E667B6C090 wrote:

The fact that every statistic relating to
Where do mass murders occur
says that Gun Free Zones are by far the most popular
and seeing the obviousness of that fact and watching the people who believe Gun Free Zones is how we can keep people safe is mind numbing.

Lefties don't agree that normies carrying is the most likely to succeed in stopping a mass shooter But that Is the truth.

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by Eegore on 07/19/22 at 08:18:46

The fact that every statistic relating to
Where do mass murders occur
says that Gun Free Zones are by far the most popular
and seeing the obviousness of that fact and watching the people who believe Gun Free Zones is how we can keep people safe is mind numbing.

I agree with that.

I only had issue with the exact portion I indicated and only that portion.

Title: Re: How much coverage will it get?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/19/22 at 08:26:20

Great! I'm waiting to hear from the people who either still believe that sign is how we need to do it or used to.
I guess it would take someone of unwavering character to stand up and defend what is statistically proven and demonstrated in real life to be something that requires any thought to see it is not only a failure, but that That approach is The Reason WHY bad guys have been able to kill and injure so many.