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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 07/16/22 at 13:29:43

Title: This is what we celebrate?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/16/22 at 13:29:43

John Glenn would puke.

Putting society's misfits on a pedestal and telling our youth to aspire to such greatness.
Well, screw everyone who calls that good.


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Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by pg on 07/16/22 at 16:40:41

Admiral..........

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Best regards,

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/16/22 at 18:00:29

If someone had told me in,Ohh, say, 1975 or so, that in about fifty years we would see what is happening right now, I would have just laughed. It's just absurd to believe society would accept and hold in high esteem something so disconnected from reality. Makes me want to slap the EVERLUVVIN FUKK outta the
Follow the Science people. Like it or not, You're on the same team as these freakshows.

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by MnSpring on 07/16/22 at 20:05:18

 So that is why,
the French army,
wears BROWN Pants !




Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by Serowbot on 07/17/22 at 06:38:00

If you don't have anything good to say........  :-X

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by MnSpring on 07/17/22 at 07:04:58


6375627F67727F64100 wrote:
If you don't have anything good to say........

Just did a WM.
Had to clean off the keyboard
when the coffee spurted through my nose.

From the #1,
Drive By'er,
and, 'I gotta a Gun,
but you can't have one'



;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by Eegore on 07/17/22 at 19:05:52


"I gotta a Gun,
but you can't have one'
"

 Except he never said you can't have one.

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by MnSpring on 07/17/22 at 21:53:14


0C2C2E263B2C490 wrote:
   Except he never said you can't have one.

INCORRECT

I, am someone.
And Bot said, 'no one should have a gun'.

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by Eegore on 07/18/22 at 07:30:41

 Maybe you can reference it or Serowbot can confirm.

 When I search for "no one should have a gun" under Serowbot's post history I can not find this or a version of this.

 Still, saying one shouldn't have an item is not equal to saying they can not have one.  If Serowbot says Billy should not have a green shirt on, that doesn't not mean Billy can not have a green shirt on.

 If I say one should not alter posts to mean things different than intended that does not mean someone can't do it.

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/18/22 at 09:22:12

saying one shouldn't have an item is not equal to saying they can not have one.

The hair splitting is so old.
Row has repeatedly been in support of gun bans,but because it is still legal, he keeps his.
The Hyperintellectualizing, working to couch something Just So, in order to make the conversation about how the debate team instructor would diagram the sentence instead of the position someone is supporting just gets tiresome.

When Republicans screw up, that's the story.
When democrats screw up, how Republicans react is the story.
Bot is anti gun for me and every law abiding citizen.
Yet,he owns one.
Hard STOP.

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by Serowbot on 07/18/22 at 09:40:32

What I say is, the only way these mass shootings will stop is to have high capacity guns banned nationwide.

The Onion has a repeating headline after nearly every mass shooting that reads, ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens"
Churchill once said..."You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else"

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

I do know I have been egged on to take more extreme views on some topics but I don't recall taking a ban all guns view. If I did it was hyperbolic.
... but, the point is,... thoughts and prayers aren't working, and better mental health in a country without a national health is silly.
Every day is another shooting... this will never compound into nothing, it will eventually demand action.
How many lives do you demand?

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by Serowbot on 07/18/22 at 10:34:11

I looked at the next thread down and thought I posted in the wrong thread,... but no... this thread somehow went from trans snark to guns...
Herein lies the problem... a national obsession with guns.
You call then tools... no different than a hammer or screwdriver,... but are you so obsessed with hammers that they enter conversations on trans in politics?
Guns are clearly not just a tool.


They are an obsession.

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/18/22 at 12:08:14


785B6645475C5B52350 wrote:
[quote author=6375627F67727F64100 link=1658003383/0#4 date=1658065080]If you don't have anything good to say........

Just did a WM.
Had to clean off the keyboard
when the coffee spurted through my nose.

From the #1,
Drive By'er,
and, 'I gotta a Gun,
but you can't have one'



;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



[/quote]


Someone just pointing out the perpetual disconnect you suffer from. It's not that guns are some Obsession, but that fact won't affect your opinion. No more than the fact that Sandman was the victim of racism, Kyle was defending his life, you don't see because if you ever allow yourself to Start to see what natural, real life is, you would nuts all your polyester in the floor.

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by Serowbot on 07/18/22 at 14:20:10


382E39243C29243F4B0 wrote:
If you don't have anything good to say........  :-X


This may have been taken wrong?

I simply meant that I had nothing good to say about the photo.
Baldy there has a head like a bullet...  ;D

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by pg on 07/18/22 at 15:05:00

This individual is clinically mentally ill.

https://dailycaller.com/2022/07/18/biden-transgender-health-and-human-services-rachel-levine-empower-kids-sex-changes/

Best regards,

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by Eegore on 07/18/22 at 20:16:43

"The hair splitting is so old.
Row has repeatedly been in support of gun bans,but because it is still legal, he keeps his.
The Hyperintellectualizing, working to couch something Just So, in order to make the conversation about how the debate team instructor would diagram the sentence instead of the position someone is supporting just gets tiresome."



 Nothing about what I am saying will "Couch" this conversation.  If people alter things that you say that's wrong, but it's ok to do that to others?

 Serowbot can still be pro-gun control without people lying/altering the words he posted.

 Serowbot has not said people can not have guns.  He is Pro-gun reform.  Is it really that hard to be honest?

 People want truth?  Stop changing what others say to fit your arguments.  If your argument has merit you shouldn't need to exaggerate or modify anything.

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/18/22 at 20:51:23

Hey, I AM being honest, howzabout you try to get it through your fukking head that what I say he said is how I understand what he said. You feel free to drag up where he actually explains Exactly what he believes.

I'm sick of your telling me I'm a liar. Why doesn't he just say it. When someone gets what I believe wrong, I correct them. You have to explain it for him? WTF IS gun reform.

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by Eegore on 07/19/22 at 05:37:31

"Hey, I AM being honest, howzabout you try to get it through your fukking head that what I say he said is how I understand what he said."

 Sure.  However if what you understand is not what he actually said then what you understand is inaccurate.


"You feel free to drag up where he actually explains Exactly what he believes."

 We don't have to do that as we both already agree that Serowbot is pro-gun control/reform.  What we apparently do not agree on is the words he uses to state it.  In all this I was actually referring to MnSpring insisting Serowbot said nobody "should have" a gun, or "needs" a gun and that those words are equal to saying nobody "can have" a gun.

 If I say a human at a hospital with a cut on their hand does not "need" life support, and "should not" have life support measures - that does not mean I think other humans "can't have" life support measures.


"I'm sick of your telling me I'm a liar. Why doesn't he just say it. When someone gets what I believe wrong, I correct them. You have to explain it for him?"

 I don't have to explain anything for anyone.  I am providing my assessment and that angers you.  My assessment is if any forum member says something, and another "quotes" the statement they should use the actual real words used since that is what a "quote" is.

 Not some variation that means something different than what the forum member actually said.  

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/19/22 at 07:03:41

already agree that Serowbot is pro-gun control/reform.

I still don't know what that means.

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by MnSpring on 07/19/22 at 07:20:00


Quote:
Eegore Said: "... what you understand is inaccurate..."


INCORRECT,
It is what, you think, is inaccurate.

Explain the Newly Coined, UL phrase;
“pro-gun control/reform”

I know what, ‘Pro-Gun” is,
and BOT ain’t it !

And, ‘reform’,
How’s that working ?
The cities that have done ‘extensive’ reform,
the gun VIOLENCE
by Criminals has INCREASED.


(Wait, now, a Criminal is Not a Criminal,
according to a government paid PSA)


And the phrase/s,  
“…nobody "should have" a gun, or "needs" …”
A regular poster can delete posts.
What could a Moderator do ?

Another question.
Bot, why do you have a firearm ?

“…cut on their hand does not "need" life support, ... and "should not" have life support…”
That is so lame,
and not even remotely close.

That would be saying,
’You don’t need a Gun, because no one is shooting at you,
but that does not mean you can’t have a gun,
if someone is actively shooting at you’


(And you still believe the, 'Red' car is a bad analogy.)

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by Eegore on 07/19/22 at 08:22:44

"I still don't know what that means."

 To me, this means the current gun laws are not satisfactory to the person who is pro gun control or reform and as such those laws should be modified, most typically, in a method that reduces the legal dispersal of firearms.

 

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by Eegore on 07/19/22 at 08:27:22


"That would be saying,
’You don’t need a Gun, because no one is shooting at you,
but that does not mean you can’t have a gun,
if someone is actively shooting at you’
"



 The claim is Serobot has said people do not need guns or should not have guns and that is equal to saying people can not have guns.

 So it would be more like saying:

You don’t need a Gun, because no one is shooting at you,
and that means you can’t have a gun.

 He never said people can not own guns.

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by MnSpring on 07/19/22 at 08:59:59

In explaining;
'The Newly Coined, UL phrase;
“pro-gun control/reform”


0626242C3126430 wrote:
To me, this means the current gun laws
are not satisfactory to the person
who is pro gun control or reform
and as such those laws should be modified,
most typically, in a method
that reduces the legal dispersal of firearms. 
 

Can you provide, 'stats', on how many,
Legal, gun owners commit crimes ?

How many, drive by shootings/gang wars/cartel shootings/car jacking/rapes/thefts/bank-store robberies/etc/etc/etc ...
were done by LEGAL gun owners ?

Can you provide the Stats of how,
just NY, IL, Calf,
extended, background checks/waiting periods/model banning/magazine capacity/trigger pull specifications/etc/etc/etc/...
have Stopped Crime ?


"...  He never said people can not own guns ..."

Sure, he is a people, (some think a Muppet),
so he can !




Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by Eegore on 07/19/22 at 09:24:58

"Can you provide, 'stats', on how many,
Legal, gun owners commit crimes ?

How many, drive by shootings/gang wars/cartel shootings/car jacking/rapes/thefts/bank-store robberies/etc/etc/etc ...
were done by LEGAL gun owners ?

Can you provide the Stats of how,
just NY, IL, Calf,
extended, background checks/waiting periods/model banning/magazine capacity/trigger pull specifications/etc/etc/etc/...
have Stopped Crime ?



 No.


"Sure, he is a people, (some think a Muppet),
so he can !"


 Sure.  This still does not mean he actually said people can not own guns.  That is all I am saying.

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/19/22 at 12:15:30

Sure.  This still does not mean he actually said people can not own guns.  That is all I am saying.
Back to top      

Until he steps up and states for the record exactly what he believes gun laws should be, I don't know fer sure, except that we've seen that
Yes, he owns a gun
And I THINK he said he would rather it be
Nobody, except cops and military, should have one.
It would be good if he would just clarify.

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by MnSpring on 07/19/22 at 13:06:57

"It would be good if he would just clarify. "

Na

Bot doesn't need to clarify his position.
Eegore has done it for him.



Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by Eegore on 07/19/22 at 13:26:07

"Bot doesn't need to clarify his position.
Eegore has done it for him.
"

 Incorrect.

 The only thing I have stated is people are making up words and pretending they came from Serowbot to further enforce their position.  If the argument holds merit nobody should have to alter the words somebody else said.

 Serowbot can clarify his position if he wants, if not people will possibly  keep making up things he said and deciding what he thinks on their own.

 If it were important to him he would have said something already.
 

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by MnSpring on 07/19/22 at 13:31:29


0D2D2F273A2D480 wrote:
"... people are making up words and pretending they came from Serowbot ..."  



4E6E6C64796E0B0 wrote:
"... He never said people can not own guns.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by Serowbot on 07/19/22 at 13:31:34

I've gone through my whole life without carrying a gun.
Even had one pointed at me three times.
Who knows what would have happened if I'd pulled one back.
I was stabbed in the back in England (cheap Spanish flick knife broke on contact with my spine, I went on to the football match I was going to. Minor bleeding, wrecked my shirt)

It's annoying enough carrying a cell phone.
We need better pockets.

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by MnSpring on 07/19/22 at 13:48:11


Quote:

1107100D15000D16620 wrote:
I've gone through my whole life without carrying a gun.
Even had one pointed at me three times.
Who knows what would have happened if I'd pulled one back.
I was stabbed in the back in England (cheap Spanish flick knife broke on contact with my spine, I went on to the football match I was going to. Minor bleeding, wrecked my shirt)It's annoying enough carrying a cell phone.
We need better pockets.


Total, Absolute, Gibberish.

Bot do you choose to, or not chose to,
state your opinion on Firearms.
1. Who should have a Firearm ?
2. What Background checks necessary ?
3. What kind/type/style/model of Firearm should be allowed ?
4. Carry allowed, Kind of carry, who carry ?
5. Shall issue Laws, or, May issue laws ?
6. Any further comments of, waiting, amount, style, fuction, etc. etc. etc. you wish to make ?








Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by Serowbot on 07/19/22 at 15:02:06

You desperately want me to take a position so that you can rail against me.

Lets fix the problem with thoughts and prayers

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/19/22 at 15:37:10

You stop the thread by changing a potentially valuable sharing of ideas and decide to change the topic from the topic to how people say things.
Now I'm confused about what I remember bot said, but I'm still Sure that if I said Bot said nobody can have a e
And you correct it with that song and dance about
Gun laws reform
If at the end of the day, nobody but cops can have a gun,
Then you have created a distinction without a difference.Aaand brought the conversation to a standstill.

I Was gonna go back to read, copy and paste to get it correct, right now I have to finish this and post it so I can rest. IDK what is going on, I go years without throwing up. No warning, no tummy ache, just that sudden flood of spit, and boom! Cookies, three times. Thought it was over and was ready to sit down and the Flood hit,ran outside and tossed cookies twice. The wife had it hit her almost a week ago. City girl,,she went running to the bathroom.
I'll try to straighten this post out later.

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by MnSpring on 07/19/22 at 15:55:55


7B6D7A677F6A677C080 wrote:
"You desperately want me to take a position ..."

You Have !

Title: Re: This is what we celebrate?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/20/22 at 04:43:58

0
5147504D55404D56220 wrote:
You desperately want me to take a position so that you can rail against me.

Lets fix the problem with thoughts and prayers



Well, after lefties tied our hands, what do we have left?
Because lefties would Not allow sanity to be employed,
Painful regrets are all we have left.

You desperately want me to take a position so that you can rail against me.

No, we don't want to Rail Against you.

We want you to stop being unwilling to allow the facts guide you.
If you GOT your way, it would Suck.

How Did the Sign work? Well if it DIDN'T, and You agreed with putting signs up, there is a starting point to adjust your thinking to align with Reality. Signs don't Stop anyone. If they, there would be no crime.

The sign outside the jewelry store would simply announce that robbery is not permitted here.

You have seen some G.G.W.A.G. Good Guys with a gun, lately.
You weren't supportive back then.
How do you feel about it now?
How many lives need to be saved before that
Mental Lightning Strike hits and the palm smacks your forehead?
You said, ohh,yeah, sure, let's Add guns to the equation.
But, that is Exactly what you want when you call the cops.

Besides, you can shut our criticism Down completely.

Just use logic and reason and be the guy who can see that you believed
( past tense) something that sounded good but didn't work, and, after seeing how the GGWAG stopped a murderer from driving up the body count. HOW anyone ever believed a sign (stating that having a gun inside The Zone of Magical Thinking) constitutes a felony would deter someone who was well aware of that sign is not important. What Is important is to see it and realize how much carnage America has been subjected to because of that irrational belief and CHANGE YOUR MIND. It's okay to Have been wrong, but it's Not okay to continue to be wrong. Certainly not after the proof you have seen.

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