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Message started by WebsterMark on 07/12/22 at 03:58:44

Title: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/12/22 at 03:58:44

So the 10 year old rape victim Puddinhead yacked about doesn’t exist. She claimed the girl had to leave Ohio to get medical care because of that state’s restrictive abortion laws.

It’s BS. Never happened. Under the best of circumstances, someone made it up and White House fell for it. Under the worst, they knew it was probably BS but couldn’t talk the dementia old man from running with it.

That story has died a quiet death, more evidence how the media covers for him.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/12/22 at 04:37:01

I saw that story, I Think four days before the white house decided to milk the manufactured tragedy. They would love to be able to paint the pro life side as heartless. Which is a bit of a conflict.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by MnSpring on 07/12/22 at 08:04:07

665453424554437C50435A310 wrote:

"... That story has died a quiet death,
more evidence how the media covers for him.

And the VAST amount of shepol that believe, the,
"Told What To Say", Media
Are the customers
for those Lots in Demming NM !!!!!

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Serowbot on 07/13/22 at 12:05:30

Jesse Watters Suggested 10-Year-Old Rape Victim’s Abortion Was a ‘Hoax’ Before Arrest
https://www.thedailybeast.com/columbus-police-arrest-gerson-fuentes-for-rape-of-ohio-10-year-old-who-traveled-to-indiana-for-abortion
Gerson Fuentes appeared in court Wednesday after the girl’s plight received widespread attention, including from many conservative officials and pundits who claimed it was a hoax.

Arrest made in rape of Ohio girl that led to Indiana abortion drawing international attention
https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2022/07/13/columbus-man-charged-rape-10-year-old-led-abortion-in-indiana/10046625002/
A Columbus man has been charged with impregnating a 10-year-old Ohio girl, whose travel to Indiana to seek an abortion led to international attention following the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v Wade and activation of Ohio's abortion law.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/13/22 at 13:08:04

Since we established a while back here that facts don't matter I guess the fact that this did happen won't matter. Just point to another issue about something else.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Gershon+Fuentes%2C&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS870US870&oq=Gershon+Fuentes%2C&aqs=chrome..69i57.370j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

I get it that we have to be aware of bullsh!t, but as usual, we have to accept it comes from both sides if we want truth. Even the side you like can lie, or be misinformed, or just plain ignorant.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Serowbot on 07/13/22 at 15:05:15

Eegore,.. you're being a bit too even handed.
It happens a lot more on one side than the other.

Fox is currently being sued bigly to the tune of $1.6B for false reporting.
Dominion Voting wins key decision in lawsuit against Fox News
The lawsuit alleges Fox News personalities including Tucker Carlson, Jeanine Pirro, Sean Hannity and their on-air guests Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell and Mike Lindell spread lies about fraud in the 2020 election

It's reporting like this that has 1/3 of the country believing the election was not legitimate.... believing Covid is hoax,..
believing 1/6 was ANTIFA or FBI op.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Serowbot on 07/13/22 at 16:08:47

GOP Rep. Jim Jordan deletes tweet calling the story of a 10-year-old girl being raped 'another lie' after Ohio authorities charged a man in the case

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Serowbot on 07/13/22 at 16:18:40

A Trump fan got widespread sympathy after his garage was burned and defaced with 'Biden 2020' graffiti. Prosecutors say he did it himself in a $300K insurance scam.
Though it was reported by those newsrooms as an unproven set of allegations, Fox News host Laura Ingraham, speaking the day after the purported attack, viewed the matter as settled.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/13/22 at 16:49:05

It happens a lot more on one side than the other.

Well, I agree with Sew. It does happen a lot more on one side than the other.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/13/22 at 16:50:32

….and just wondering if you were going to get around to the fact the rapist was one of those future Democratic voters you’re so eager to have stream across the border.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/13/22 at 16:53:29

Do you really want a tit for tat? Two words: Jussie Smollett

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/13/22 at 17:15:44

Two more: Bubba Wallace

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/13/22 at 17:19:26

Two more: Kyle Rittenhouse

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/13/22 at 17:25:07

Two more: Nick Sandman

I could go on and on but all of these were lies that were spread as gospel by Democrats and main stream media. And more than just spreading lies. They were fabricating stories to go along with the lies. In some of these, media personalities were sued and settled. (Nick Sandman makes more in interest on his settlement money than you make in years. Thanks CNN.)

You can’t win Sew. This is like. Ike Tyson finally turning on that guy on the airplane.

So do your Sew thing and post a funny emoji and clever comment and don’t return to this post cause I just won by TKO.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Serowbot on 07/13/22 at 18:07:50

Those are just names

I think you just won a contest I'm not in :-?

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/13/22 at 19:35:16

If you think those are just names, your leftist bubble is getting pretty big!
Those names represent a conspiracy of the mainstream media to do whatever they can to help out their partners, politicians and the Democratic Party. There’s absolutely nothing even remotely close to that on the right side of the political spectrum. Nothing even remotely close.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/13/22 at 21:27:00

Because of lefties and the OHHMuhGawd climtcult, out grid is flakey. CongRATS.

https://www.renewableenergymagazine.com/wind/ercot-finds-that-frozen-wind-turbines-was-20210217#:~:text=Renewable energy performance has been around the levels,equipment that is often used in colder climates.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by pg on 07/13/22 at 22:47:38

6A7C6B766E7B766D190 wrote:

It's reporting like this that has 1/3 of the country believing the election was not legitimate.... believing Covid is hoax,..
believing 1/6 was ANTIFA or FBI op.

And that is coming from someone who believes Donald Trump is Putins's asset, was working as a secret partner for Russia, and of course the golden showers.......

Also, all of Bidens' deals with China are on the up and up and there is no conflict of interest there......

Best regards,

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Serowbot on 07/14/22 at 07:20:58

A New Report Adds Evidence That Trump Was a Russian Asset
He helped Putin manipulate the U.S. election in 2020, as he did in 2016
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/03/trump-russian-asset-election-intelligence-community-report.html

Here are 18 reasons Trump could be a Russian asset
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/here-are-18-reasons-why-trump-could-be-a-russian-asset/2019/01/13/45b1b250-174f-11e9-88fe-f9f77a3bcb6c_story.html

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/14/22 at 08:08:12

Eegore,.. you're being a bit too even handed.
It happens a lot more on one side than the other.

Well, I agree with Sew. It does happen a lot more on one side than the other.

I don't think it does.

I think in this case there is confirmation bias. Simply put we scrutinize the enemy more than the ally. When you have no enemies, and no allies, you just scrutinize.

For instance this very thread is based off a complete inaccuracy, but in it there is just more finger pointing to the "other sides" lies. Where's the acknowledgement that this 10 year old girl does exist, and the people that called it fake news were wrong?

Not important if we can point out lies from the "other side".

Trading stories about how many windows Billy and Bobby broke doesn't really help me make sure my windows are more protected. Finding out how many windows total were broke versus how many were claimed to be broke, when, where and by what method is useful. Saying I saw an article where Bobby broke more windows than Billy isn't doing anyone any favors.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by MnSpring on 07/14/22 at 08:09:21

Quote:

BOT said:
"... 18 reasons Trump could be a Russian asset ... "

T.D.S.
at it finest !

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/14/22 at 10:09:07

5543544951444952260 wrote:

That’s ridiculous.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/14/22 at 10:14:46

133331392433560 wrote:

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/14/22 at 11:03:10

This is pretty easy to solve. You and Sew give me four names that are equal to the names I just mentioned. Four names where Fox News made up complete and utter lies and spread those lies continuously even after the facts were obvious that it was a lie. Oh, add the name of the capital policeman who was supposedly bludgeoned to death by a fire extinguisher which I still hear people on MSNBC repeat as if it’s the truth. Five names.

My point is that exchanging garbage news for garbage news is still garbage news. None of this changes the fact that FOX is a private news business that provides content based off of profitability. They have zero incentive to broadcast anything about Biden in a positive light, just as CNN for instance has zero incentive to broadcast Trump in a positive light.

I think both "sides" if this even really exists, will cater to their viewer base for profitability. Those viewers will have bias and think the "other side" is less accurate, less honest, whatever than the news source they like.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Serowbot on 07/14/22 at 11:34:40

Political leanings of news sources do exist on both sides.

...but what about the world?
If you want to find agreement with Fox and Right leaning news outside the US.... try Russia, maybe Turkey, Syria, Belarus...
Good company
Any places you might want live?

Why is the Right/ Trump most aligned with our enemies?
What makes you prefer nationalist dictatorship instead of democratic freedom?
Put on your own handcuffs.
Insanity rules.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Serowbot on 07/14/22 at 14:52:12

Fox News literally makes you dumberer. :-/

STUDY: Watching Only Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All
https://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5?op=1
They found that someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer 1.04 domestic questions correctly compared to 1.22 for those who watched no news at all. Those watching only "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" answered 1.42 questions correctly and people who only listened to NPR or only watched Sunday morning political talk shows answered 1.51 questions correctly.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by pg on 07/14/22 at 15:44:32

4254435E46535E45310 wrote:

They did have a special council investigation that lasted about two years, cost $32 M, unlimited resources and found nodda, zip, zero zilch.......

Best regards,

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/14/22 at 15:54:10

2234233E26333E25510 wrote:

So what you’re saying is you can’t even begin to cite remotely similar instances such as the 5 examples I mentioned. As I said, TKO.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/14/22 at 15:58:38

2335223F27323F24500 wrote:

Did they ask is the Capitol police officer was bludgeoned to death? Because if they did Fox News yours would get the question right and you work out my question.

Did they ask if Kyle Rittenhouse was a known white supremacist? If they did Fox News viewers would’ve gotten a question correct and you would’ve gotten it wrong.

Did they say Nick Sandman has a face you just wanna slap? Because if they did Fox News viewers were about that question right you would’ve gotten it wrong.

Did they ask if facemask have been proven definitively to reduce infection risk? Because if I did Fox News viewers would’ve gotten that question right and you would’ve gotten it wrong.

Did they ask if Jesse Smolett was attacked by Trump supporters in the middle of the night in a predominantly black and rough well-known democratic area? If they did Fox News viewers would’ve gotten that question right and you would’ve gotten it wrong.

I think you see my point. Studies like that are useless. They’re made by people who have gotten all those questions I just listed above wrong.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/14/22 at 16:04:32

7C5C5E564B5C390 wrote:

That’s only partially true. I’ve proven time and time again, Fox is far more accurate and fair than CNN or MSNBC. It’s not even a close comparison. While that statement I just made is true, which it is, that doesn’t mean your statement isn’t accurate also, just a matter of degrees. Of course Fox has a political ideology and it certainly guides the news they report, but to the same degree as CNN or MSNBC. Not even close.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/14/22 at 16:14:06

That’s only partially true. I’ve proven time and time again, Fox is far more accurate and fair than CNN or MSNBC. It’s not even a close comparison.

I'm not sure what "proof" you have provided but I do not follow any of them close enough to check what you consider proof. In most cases the information I cross reference with "the news" shows that "the news" is typically incorrect or lacking a ton of supporting information thus altering context.

Like this thread here, FOX broadcasts claims it was made up, you obviously accepted it as fact, but research into court documents cross referenced with police reports show it is real. FOX minus one, again, in my book.

So I tune into FOX tomorrow for what reason? They aren't even providing the basic information I can look up in less time than it takes to watch one show.

So as I have said many times, I do not utilize mainstream media as a source of reliable information.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Serowbot on 07/14/22 at 17:02:53

I don't get this obsession with names.
I am familiar with the names you listed, they were reported in the news. The fact that they are names in the news says nothing about the accuracy of reporting.

I'm talking about the topic.... lies...
There was no significant fraud in the 2020 election
That 10 year old was raped
1/6 was a riot and an attempted coup
Sandy Hook was not fake
Trump was assisted by Putin in the 2016 election
Obama is not a Muslim
He was not born in Kenya
Covid is real
Climate change is real
The earth is round
2+2=4

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/14/22 at 17:59:11

[b] I am familiar with the names you listed, they were reported in the news. The fact that they are names in the news says nothing about the accuracy of reporting[/b]

If you don’t understand the consequences of those names and the stories around them, then you believe all the lies you hear on CNN and MSNBC not to mention 95% of MSM.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by MnSpring on 07/14/22 at 18:34:51

2404060E1304610 wrote:

"... I do not follow any of them close enough
to check what you consider proof. ..."

You, have to, 'Check' something.
to determine if it is 'Proof'.

Then only after you, 'check' that thing,
it can be considered 'Proof' or not ?

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/14/22 at 23:57:45

You, have to, 'Check' something.
to determine if it is 'Proof'.

Proof to me. This thread here should be a good enough example of why I don't just take anything told to me as "proof" of something.

Lets break this down so we are using my words and not words other people insert to alter the meaning of what I say.

"I do not follow any of them close enough
to check what you consider proof."

This means I, and only I with the exemption of all other know humans, do not "follow" or otherwise consistently utilize, read, have read, look at, or hear posts made by Webstermark specific to this topic and only this topic with the exemption of all other topics.

Since I do not follow those posts or the subject(s) of those posts I can not check the accuracy of posts Webstermark, and only Webstermark, in exclusivity, with the exemption of all other known humans - to include myself - would consider to be "proof" by his and only his assessment.

"Then only after you, 'check' that thing,
it can be considered 'Proof' or not ?"

"Proof" in general is up to the forum member to decide for themselves. For instance a picture of a quote from George Washington is "proof" to some, while being blatantly false to others.

7 years of agricultural environment testing, satellite imagery, independent thermal testing at 3 levels of atmospheric measurement, soil analysis, movement of soil to controlled locations, water testing, seed testing and now over 20.3 Million data point entries of environmental measurement compared to equal number of years of 3-stage verified agricultural yields is "proof" to one member that this one location should use a specific global weather model.

To another member a walk once a year in a different location in the country is "proof" that all that data is not indicative increased yields, and the warmer global modeling is not something that another forum member can "see".

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/22 at 05:35:11

I'm talking about the topic.... lies...
There was no significant fraud in the 2020 election: really? You didn’t see the news that I Wisconsin yesterday did you.
That 10 year old was raped: By who?
1/6 was a riot and an attempted coup: yes it was a riot.:To call that a attempted coup is not correct. If that’s a coup, all the George Floyd protests were also coups. Swarming the Supreme Court during Kavanaugh‘s hearing was a coup. Truthfully, neither one of those things were actually and neither was January 6.
Sandy Hook was not fake: what Fox News regular said it was?
Trump was assisted by Putin in the 2016 election: no he wasn’t. $100,000 in Facebook’s ads accomplished absolutely nothing. Sounds like you’re questioning the 2016 election. Isn’t that treason?
Obama is not a Muslim:
He was not born in Kenya: name the Fox News regulars who repeated these lies for months and months and months after it was obvious they were not true.
Covid is real: What Fox News regular said it wasn’t real and that it was all completely made up?
Climate change is real: What Fox News regular Saturday absolutely it’s not real and the temperature around the world has been study for the last 10,000 years?
The earth is round: what Fox News regular says it’s not?

I, on the other hand, can you find dozens and dozens of CNN and MSNBC regulars who repeated lies about those five names I mentioned for days, weeks even months after the fact. And I never even mention Russian gate which they lied about for two maybe three years.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/15/22 at 06:14:09

That 10 year old was raped: By who?

Gershon Fuentes, is charged with the crime.

While it may be proven that he is not the criminal in question, the girl is real, her travel is real, her issue is real.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by MnSpring on 07/15/22 at 08:40:20

6E4E4C44594E2B0 wrote:

"... Gershon Fuentes..."

Is that the Undocumented Immigrant,
who is from Guatemala,
who is in the United States illegally,
Who SNAKED in,
who has been 'coddled', by 'sanctuary' policies ?

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/15/22 at 08:59:40

"Is that the Undocumented Immigrant,
who is from Guatemala,
who is in the United States illegally,
Who SNAKED in,
who has been 'coddled', by 'sanctuary' policies ?"

Since the story is supposedly a manufactured tragedy that only:

the VAST amount of shepol that believe, the,
"Told What To Say", Media

says then no I'd say he isn't.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/22 at 09:30:52

When Biden told the story there was understandable questions because Biden lies like a rug. Also, a 10 year rape would have to be reported.

But, here’s the key, had the situation been reversed, the difference is the liberal news media would still be reporting that the story was false despite evidence to the contrary. That’s the difference between the political news organizations.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/22 at 09:31:26

And by the way, there’s no such thing as an undocumented immigrant. That’s an illegal alien. That’s someone who broke into the country to steal benefits.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by MnSpring on 07/15/22 at 15:34:32

1131333B2631540 wrote:

Since the story is supposedly a manufactured tragedy that only:
the VAST amount of shepol that believe, the,
"Told What To Say", Media
says then no I'd say he isn't.

OK, you believe, Gershon Fuentes
Is Not a Undocumented Immigrant,
who is Not in the United States illegally,
who has Not been 'coddled', by 'sanctuary' policies ?

And your proof is because it is;
"...supposedly a manufactured tragedy ..."

OK, Got it !

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/15/22 at 19:10:37

OK, you believe, Gershon Fuentes
Is Not a Undocumented Immigrant,
who is Not in the United States illegally,
who has Not been 'coddled', by 'sanctuary' policies ?

No. People who think this is a fake story might since none of this is real. So far nobody that called this fake acknowledged it to be real.

And your proof is because it is;
"...supposedly a manufactured tragedy ..."

I didn't call this, or support the idea of this being a manufactured tragedy.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/15/22 at 19:12:31

"And by the way, there’s no such thing as an undocumented immigrant. That’s an illegal alien. That’s someone who broke into the country to steal benefits."

Right but since this is all made up it doesn't matter.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/16/22 at 04:27:00

Nobody’s making up anything in this case. An illegal alien raped a 10 year old multiple times and in a fluke, she got pregnant. The parents for whatever reason, bad advice perhaps or political activists who knows, felt they had legal issues if they didn’t leave Ohio for treatment.

Puddinhead, who lies with practically every sentence, used the situation for a political attack. No one could find evidence of such a crime because any doctor would be obligated to report this. So because Puddinhead lies and makes crap like this up all the time, some were suspicious.

But again, this is the key point that you and Sew are ignoring. The conservative commentators who doubted the story are not repeating those doubts. This is different than all the other situations I mentioned previously where liberal commentators repeat the lies over and over despite obvious evidence. How many liberal commentators still say five people were killed on January 6 and that an officer was in ne of those killed by the insurrectionist?

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/16/22 at 06:06:36

But again, this is the key point that you and Sew are ignoring. The conservative commentators who doubted the story are not repeating those doubts. This is different than all the other situations I mentioned previously where liberal commentators repeat the lies over and over despite obvious evidence. How many liberal commentators still say five people were killed on January 6 and that an officer was in ne of those killed by the insurrectionist?

I understand that, and already said I do not have a team evaluating this since I do not use any mainstream media for "news" since they are historically very inaccurate compared to other methods. Last time I put forth a breakdown of FOX broadcast information here I was told it was inaccurate without one person even looking at it, so why should I run through thousands of transcripts of both FOX and whatever is defined as "Liberal Media"?

Both "sides" report news as needed to gain profit.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/16/22 at 07:35:17

The lies for "profit", political benefit, are so prevalent that I initially figured this story was bogus.
Reports that it was bogus showed up.
Now, not bogus.

Once I Know something is bs, it's bs.
Russia
Still real
Kyle
Still a murderer
Until people stand up and say otherwise
I believe they believe bs.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by MnSpring on 07/16/22 at 07:48:40

735351594453360 wrote:

"... Both "sides" report news as needed to gain profit.

Yep. That is business.

Howsoever, LIBERAL sites,
have 'proven' themselves,
to NOT tell the truth.
And when that info has been proven wrong,
they CONTINUE to LIE/MISLEAD.

Where CONSERVATIVE sites,
have 'proven',
they let a story/information go,
when it is a LIE/Misleading.

"... I do not have a team evaluating this since ...
... Last time I put forth a breakdown of FOX broadcast information here I was told it was inaccurate ... "

I believe you have not, "... have a team evaluating...", because it will, 'prove', Conservative news/sights/information,
LIES a LOT LESS, then a Liberal counterpart.

"... without one person even looking at it, ..."

This is known to you, how ?

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/16/22 at 11:04:50

I believe you have not, "... have a team evaluating...", because it will, 'prove', Conservative news/sights/information,
LIES a LOT LESS, then a Liberal counterpart.

I don't care what the outcome is since I do not consider any of them to be valuable to me. Instead of pulling a team from Europe to look over "news" sites in the US I will leave them in Europe to do jobs that save lives. Since nobody here will look at the information, it's useless to literally everyone.

"... without one person even looking at it, ..."

This is known to you, how ?

No unique IP addresses gained access to the information. Same way all websites know if their pages are looked at.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by MnSpring on 07/16/22 at 12:59:58

6D4D4F475A4D280 wrote:

This is known to you, how ?
"... No unique IP addresses gained access to the information.
Same way all websites know if their pages are looked at.

You can get into,
someone else's,
web-sight
and then look at all their stats ?

WOW !

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/16/22 at 16:40:19

5575777F6275100 wrote:

You don’t need to do that. You could 1) watch each for a couple days and compare or 2) and this is the one I recommend, just listen to me.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/16/22 at 19:12:51

You can get into,
someone else's,
web-sight
and then look at all their stats ?

WOW !

Incorrect. I can look at my own links and see who accesses those.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/22 at 19:18:28

I double dog dear you to listen.

https://anncoulter.substack.com/p/oh-hes-an-immigrant?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email#play

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/18/22 at 19:31:15

https://anncoulter.substack.com/p/oh-hes-an-immigrant?utm_source=substack&utm_me
dium=email#play

I tried to

A: Watch it
And
2: fix your link

Is there an another place to see it besides Twatter?

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/18/22 at 19:32:19

https://anncoulter.substack.com/p/oh-hes-an-immigrant?utm_source=substack&utm_me
dium=email#play

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/19/22 at 03:20:23

122027363120370824372E450 wrote:

I double dog dear you to listen.

https://anncoulter.substack.com/p/oh-hes-an-immigrant?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email#play

And perfect timing. Saw this story today and while it takes a while to find…..guess what?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-sees-disturbing-sex-crime-trend-police-hunt-serial-assailants-attacking-women-manhattan-streets

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/19/22 at 03:43:26

"You don’t need to do that. You could 1) watch each for a couple days and compare or 2) and this is the one I recommend, just listen to me."

I don't think either one of those would be viable for an accurate assessment given the the overall history, volume and content of mainstream news reporting.

I agree that your assessment is true for what portion of mainstream news you have heard, but I would also be interested in the thousands and thousands of hours you aren't listening to all these broadcasts.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/19/22 at 14:50:27

Trust me Eegore, I’m from the government.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Serowbot on 07/19/22 at 15:09:45

You have redefined the word weapon, and riot, so that you can claim the Left reports lies.
You deny that Trump lost the election, so the Left perpetuates a lie.
The Right has it's own dictionary and history book.
In this book Hitler was a liberal, Putin is a good guy, Trump is a brilliant businessman, and guns have nothing to do with gun deaths.
::)

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by MnSpring on 07/19/22 at 18:05:20

4553445941545942360 wrote:

You have redefined the word weapon,
and riot,
Be precise, from What to What ?

You deny that Trump lost the election
He won, it was fixed, end of story.

The Right has it's own dictionary and history book.
Exactly what is that ?

In this book Hitler was a liberal, Putin is a good guy
Again, EXACTLY, where does it say that ?

Trump is a brilliant businessman
Lot better than you, Eegor, and me put together.

guns have nothing to do with gun deaths.
Kinda Like;
Cars have nothing to do with automobile deaths ?
Eating only sweets/fat/processed food have nothing to do with death by Heart attack/Diabetes ?
Ingesting Poison has nothing to do with Suicide ?
Signs saying, 'No Guns Here', have nothing to do with Mass Shootings ?

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/19/22 at 19:38:30

Trust me Eegore, I’m from the government.

Again with this. Should I re-post the breakdown of my references on this site showing only 11% are from actual Government sources?

I never said we should trust the Government.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/20/22 at 04:34:39

7A5A58504D5A3F0 wrote:

It was a weak attempt at humor. Again, you gonna be a riot at a party.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/20/22 at 04:43:23

1305120F17020F14600 wrote:

I did not redefine the word weapon. I’ve said when anyone refers to a group of people who are armed they are almost always referring to them as armed with firearms. Broken flag pole sticks are weapons but you’re not going to overthrow the United States government with broken flag pole sticks.

I do not believe Biden would have won if the election was conducted in a historical manner and not by the changes made by state legislators using Covid as a cover. That’s true.

The left perpetrate so many lies it would be impossible to list them all or even keep them straight.

1) The socialist name in Hitler’s party is kind of a giveaway.
2) Nobody said Putin was a good guy.
3) Trump is a brilliant businessman otherwise you would’ve never even known him. He would not have been on Johnny Carson, he would not have been on SNL, etc... The Democrats would not have been going to him for money. And you would never even heard of the man if he was not a brilliant businessman. I’ve slept in a Donald Trump Hotel and eating at‘s restaurants. I never ate one of his father‘s restaurant to stay the money his hotels. I’ve never stayed in a SEW or ate at one of your restaurants.
Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. The prevalence of guns obviously increases the likelihood of a death by gun. Nobody denies that. The prevalence of alcohol, drugs, freeways, fast cars, motorcycles, they kill people too. We accept risk every day we get out of bed.

But at least my dictionary doesn’t say men can be women and women can be men it doesn’t say it’s a good idea to cut the boobs off of young girls who are confused, or hack a little boy’s pecker off, it doesn’t say a disease which targets a very small demographic can be used to just devastate children’s early education. That’s your dictionary.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/20/22 at 05:18:12

"I did not redefine the word weapon."

You redefined the word "armed". When you say nobody on Jan 6th was "armed" that means the people that got hit with the hockey stick, or sprayed with bear spray were assaulted by someone that was unarmed.

I do agree that considering this an "armed insurrection" is inaccurate, but we don't have to go so far as to deny that a few people there used objects to assault others. Those few people were armed. They were not part of an armed insurrection.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by MnSpring on 07/20/22 at 15:24:28

79595B534E593C0 wrote:

" You redefined the word "armed". When you say nobody on Jan 6th was "armed" that means the people that got hit with the hockey stick, or sprayed with bear spray were assaulted by someone that was unarmed.
I do agree that considering this an "armed insurrection" is inaccurate, but we don't have to go so far as to deny that a few people there used objects to assault others. Those few people were armed.
They were not part of an armed insurrection."

Perhaps you could PICK one !

From footage, and reports,
the only 'armed' person that shot a Firearm.
Was the one that KILLED a person,
who was NO Threat,
had NO gun,
and was NOT ARMED.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/20/22 at 16:18:52

Perhaps you could PICK one !

From footage, and reports,
the only 'armed' person that shot a Firearm.
Was the one that KILLED a person,
who was NO Threat,
had NO gun,
and was NOT ARMED.

What is there to PICK?

Webstermark has indicated nobody on Jan 6 was "armed".

The man with the hockey stick, the man with the gun, the man with the bear spray were all "armed".

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by WebsterMark on 07/23/22 at 05:09:07

It’s absolutely ridiculous to refer to the January 6 rioters as armed insurrectionist as if there was a legitimate possibility of bringing down United States government. That’s the ridiculous part. When you use the phrase armed you’re using it purposely in attempt to make the situation seem far more dire than it actually was.

No, I’m not watching the January 6th circle jerk but I read the testimony of some of Mike Pences staff who said they were calling their families because they feared for their lives. That’s utter nonsense. The weird dude with the horn hat was gonna walk in and kill everyone with a broken flag pole, walk back to the White House and take over the government? Seriously?

Have you ever heard of or have you ever referred to the protesters outside the White House on those nights of the George Floyd riots as being armed? No, of course not. Do you ever hear of the antifa riders carrying umbrellas sticks and things like that as being armed? No of course not. Armed is the phrase almost exclusively reserved for firearms. The only time it’s not is when you’re trying to overexaggerate the danger for political purposes.

The guy who tried to kill the New York governor. I’ve seen articles that say he had a knife. I did read one article that said he was armed with a knife. I’ve not seen any articles on January 6 that said they were armed with broken flag poles. They just say they were armed. That’s a lie and they’re purposely trying to inflate the seriousness and you’re going right along with it. Have at it.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/23/22 at 05:58:59

"When you use the phrase armed you’re using it purposely in attempt to make the situation seem far more dire than it actually was."

When I say the guy with the hockey stick was armed with a hockey stick and not part of an insurrection, what part of that is incorrect?

When you say "nobody was armed" what part of that is incorrect?

"Have you ever heard of or have you ever referred to the protesters outside the White House on those nights of the George Floyd riots as being armed? No, of course not. Do you ever hear of the antifa riders carrying umbrellas sticks and things like that as being armed? No of course not. Armed is the phrase almost exclusively reserved for firearms. The only time it’s not is when you’re trying to overexaggerate the danger for political purposes."

Yes, I have heard, and would refer to them as armed. I would not claim, as you have on Jan 6th, that "nobody was armed". Some people were armed at all of these locations.

Nothing about where when or political affiliation changes the definition of "armed".

As for "They" I don't really care as I do not use mainstream news as a source of evidence. When I am having a conversation with someone, and they tell me any human with an object in their hand used as a weapon against another human is "unarmed" I will disagree.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/23/22 at 07:20:07

When GUNS are the topic..
Considered armed and dangerous.
It's a gun
Not a stick

People just standing around talking, the most common understanding is gun when Armed is in the conversation.
I'm sure you knew what was meant. Or,if you're suffering from conFEWZzzion, ask. Your constant need to put sideboards on the conversation, suddenly, you have derailed the conversation and instead of having a conversation about the event, Noow it's not about the event, it's about how We talk about the event. The hair splitting is Old.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Eegore on 07/23/22 at 09:31:41

"When GUNS are the topic..
Considered armed and dangerous.
It's a gun
Not a stick"

If a stick is used to assault someone why are they suddenly "unarmed" only on Jan 6th?

Why argue lies with lies?

If "armed insurrection" is misleading, duplicitous, dishonest etc. so is claiming "Nobody was armed".

Why does the Not-an-Insurrection crowd get to alter facts and not the Pro-Insurrection crowd?

None of what I am saying stops the conversation. If I think humans assaulting other humans with sticks and bear spray are "armed" and should not be called "unarmed" it will not derail anything.

If you think that guy with a hockey stick hitting people was unarmed go ahead. We still will agree that this was not an armed insurrection.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by Serowbot on 07/23/22 at 10:43:24

Kyle Rittenhouse shot and killed unarmed men.

Title: Re: A decade of lies
Post by pg on 07/23/22 at 15:26:51

The one trying to decapitate him with a skateboard, the one with the Glock pointed at him, or the pedo trying to disarm him?

Regardless he will receive hundreds of millions..........

Best regards,