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Title: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/02/22 at 12:51:12 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vQfE1NF8gqrLWTctmOj1JEEd4J1FZlgR/view What ever happened to the Speedy trial thing? How is it possible to stop the VA benefits of veterans? Punishment prior to conviction? Since when are the benefits earned by faithful service something that can be confiscated? If you are facing criminal prosecution, your veterans benefits may be on the line. Although criminal charges alone will not affect your benefits, a conviction for a crime that results in imprisonment may result in a reduction of your disability compensation or the suspension of your non-service connected pension payments. Whose benefits did they take? The people in jail ,pretrial? Or convicted? |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/02/22 at 13:55:10 It's all outlined here: https://www.benefits.va.gov/persona/veteran-incarcerated.asp "VA disability compensation payments are reduced if a Veteran is convicted of a felony and imprisoned for more than 60 days." One argument for why benefits are reduced after 60 days of incarceration is because they are receiving full care by tax dollars while incarcerated. Medical, food, clothing etc. They can get those benefits back once released. As for the video this is just another example of separating one part of a large event and saying the entirety of all actions should be made from the information contained within this one hallway. For all we know the police holding the door were told to just let people in/out since they were planning an interior divert to a specific location and to wait for the response team. I for one would not confront people at a ratio of 1 to 100 and attempt an arrest when there's a chance a mob would get my gun if they saw me trying to detain someone. I also wouldn't enter a Federal building because a civilian waved me in, which is how this particular hallway entry began. But if I were person number 99 entering how would I know? But then again I'm at a darn protest to overthrow an election, so what should I think is happening? |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/02/22 at 15:10:57 I asked, in my post, were they convicted? |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/02/22 at 15:41:17 Some were convicted. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/02/22 at 18:07:50 If any are being denied their VA benefits and have not been convicted, that appears to be illegal. And what ever happened to bail? Speedy trial? And how many people have been charged with insurrection? |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/02/22 at 20:29:04 If any are being denied their VA benefits and have not been convicted, that appears to be illegal. My experience has been those that claim their VA benefits are revoked can not provide any indication of this. No letter, and no reduction in payments in their bank accounts, but that's just my limited exposure. Is any legal representative of any of these Veterans making this claim? |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/02/22 at 23:45:08 Idk. I just read that the veterans had their benefits removed. No names, no proof. Aaand STILL, Why are any of them being held without bail? What happened to speedy trial? I'm seeing violent criminals,like the BLM rioters,treated much better. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by zevenenergie on 07/03/22 at 08:29:40 You have to see it like it is. And it's like this: If they crappity smacked up , then you can't give them a way out. Even if they have been crappity smacked without them noticing. If they want to undo the effect of getting crappity smacked, then you have to crappity smack them harder. America must become a country that doesn't give a crappity smack. It is simple; If you want women to give birth to children, you have to make sure they bear love babies. As long as you crappity smack women, you have to give them a way out. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Serowbot on 07/03/22 at 10:31:31 6F7076716C6B5A6A5A62707C37050 wrote:
This is like showing pictures of Hitler petting his dog to prove the Holocaust didn't happen. ;D http://https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ln5ft5qE8i1qkuyh2o1_400.jpg |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/03/22 at 10:55:02 Seriously? Fukkin VIDEO of cops allowing people to walk right by? Holding the door for them? You have No honesty in you. If they were not WANTED Inside that building, then what explains the cops not trying to keep the door shut? You have to see what is going on. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by zevenenergie on 07/03/22 at 11:23:36 2432253820353823570 wrote:
This is like showing pictures of Hitler petting his dog to prove the Holocaust didn't happen. ;D http://https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ln5ft5qE8i1qkuyh2o1_400.jpg[/quote] Actually there is a video of this photo, in it you can clearly see that the dog is afraid of hitler and behaves very submissively. Denial is the strongest form of unconsciousness. I believe that there was something very wrong with the storming of the capitol, other than the storming itself. I know how polarized your country is and that to me is already a sign that something is going on that is not being seen. What russia is doing now in the ukraine is also a sign that we as humanity are unconscious. We are, as it were, seeing blind. Everyone sees that something is not right, but no one sees that thinking has become dominant. And thinking is a survival mechanism. We try to survive by attacking. And that now comes to a climax in this time and space. A peace ful mind is open and silent. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/04/22 at 06:28:37 Row, you just watched a video of the Cops allowing them in. They weren't trying to push them out. And the riotous Trump supporters were behaving peacefully. Yet,with video of what was happening, choose to ignore what your eyes are seeing and pretend that a picture of Hitler petting a dog is some analog? So far, it's looking like I'm the only person here who is able to type I was wrong. You should try it. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by MnSpring on 07/04/22 at 13:26:01 66796A79727972796E7B75791C0 wrote:
Did you mean, dormant ? It makes more sense that way. (Dormant definition, lying asleep or as if asleep; inactive, ...) |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/04/22 at 15:26:22 Are any of the people in this specific video being prosecuted? |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/04/22 at 15:34:29 I'm sure you know. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/05/22 at 06:17:40 "I'm sure you know." None so far have any registered cases against them that I am aware as this video has not been entered into discovery in any cases thus far. So basically there is a concern that Veterans are having their VA benefits removed because they are being prosecuted for entering the Capitol on Jan 6th and the evidence is a video of people who have not been prosecuted and has no context regarding what the police in the video were being instructed to do. What is the point of this? Anyone can pull up a video of cops letting anyone in anywhere and then say other people, not in the video, somewhere in the country might be losing their benefits, but also say there is no proof of it. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by pg on 07/06/22 at 01:59:52 One person who is awaiting his trial reported his benefits were canceled. Also, how does this site define proof for the purpose of a supporting argument? Certainly not a headline or story from a media group that doesn't align with someone's views, perhaps fraudulent reporting by a government agency, an NGO? I don't think a clear cut answer exists. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/06/22 at 06:12:39 "Also, how does this site define proof for the purpose of a supporting argument?" The site doesn't so "Proof" is essentially totally up to each member. For instance I've seen "proof" that hydroxychloroquine is a proven cure for Covid even though people that take it still get Covid. To me that's not "proof", but to others it is. In this case it has more to do with context. If I provide a video of people who never went to court as evidence that people went to court, what exactly is the value of that video? In this case there are people walking in the doors, but to argue it shows Veterans behaving in a way that doesn't justify losing benefits would only make sense, to me, if any of the people in that video were Veterans losing benefits. Otherwise its just a video of other people. Just reverse it: Would it be ok to show video of other people assaulting the police in a thread to show why Veterans should lose their benefits? |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by MnSpring on 07/06/22 at 10:14:14 7454565E4354310 wrote:
Have you seen where someone who took the, 'vaccine', and still got Covid ? |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/06/22 at 11:40:17 "Have you seen where someone who took the, 'vaccine', and still got Covid ?" Yes. I also don't sit in here repeatedly defending that the vaccine is a "proven cure". We are specifically talking about people here on this forum with the exemption of all other known humans. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/06/22 at 13:02:54 Before it was absolutely undeniably demonstrated to be False, every voice out there was hyping the jab as safe AND EFFECTIVE. Take the jab, now you will not get the woohoo Flu. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by pg on 07/06/22 at 13:29:36 In other Covid news. https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/canadas-health-minister-you-will-never-be-fully-vaxxed Canadians will be required to get a Covid shot every nine months for the foreseeable future, says Health Minister Jean-Yves Duclos. Previous definitions of “fully vaccinated” made no sense, he told reporters. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/06/22 at 19:09:58 "Before it was absolutely undeniably demonstrated to be False, every voice out there was hyping the jab as safe AND EFFECTIVE. Take the jab, now you will not get the woohoo Flu." Yeah Billy broke a window too. But we are talking about the window Bobby broke. As I said, this is about members on this forum in exclusivity with the exemption of all other know humans. Humans on this forum insisted that hydroxychloroquine is a "proven cure" when no known human has been "cured" by taking it. How is hydroxychloroquine a cure if people that take it still get Covid? Drudging up some other comment about a different medication from someone that isn't on this forum is no different than providing a video of people who are not prosecuted for crimes, but trying to use the video as evidence. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/06/22 at 21:21:44 Look at places in Africa. Maybe what you think cure is is different Rules for getting a drug classified as Emergency Use Can't have an alternative. That is why the liars in our government stated nothing else was an option. You can beat your keyboard to pieces trying to gaslight me into believing things that go counter to what I have watched over the last years. It's NOT gonna work. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/07/22 at 01:33:47 "Rules for getting a drug classified as Emergency Use Can't have an alternative." This is not true. EAU is about availability and risk aversion, not "cures" in any way shape or form. "For an EUA to be issued for a vaccine, for which there is adequate manufacturing information to ensure quality and consistency, FDA must determine that the known and potential benefits outweigh the known and potential risks of the vaccine." "An Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) is a mechanism to facilitate the availability and use of medical countermeasures, including vaccines" Not one mention of curing the disease is in the totality of the EUA framework. https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained "You can beat your keyboard to pieces trying to gaslight me into believing things that go counter to what I have watched over the last years. It's NOT gonna work." Watch all day long. I don't think what any one human sees is equal to what all humans experience. As long as you refuse to observe things you don't agree with they won't be part of your observed reality. Also I have said many times I do not care what you believe and am not trying to change your mind. I won't however sit here and agree with you that EUA "requires" a vaccine be a "cure" when it very obviously does not. Or any of the other stuff you wont even read, but defend, even when other people do the math for you and try to show you how that math is categorically impossible. Politicians lied, but not because the FDA requires EAU be for a "cure". Most likely they lied because it works. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/07/22 at 07:44:16 I think you choose to pretend I'm saying something I'm not, and, like you, I'm not going to waste a minnit on it. Biden straight up Said Take the jab, you won't Need a mask and you can't catch it. Others said it too. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by pg on 07/07/22 at 07:49:23 796660677A7D4C7C4C74666A21130 wrote:
Yes, LLLOOOOTTTTTTTTSSSS of people said that. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by MnSpring on 07/07/22 at 08:19:56 7151535B4651340 wrote:
How is the, 'vaccine' a PROVEN cure, when people that take it, still get Covid? |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/07/22 at 08:53:53 "How is the, 'vaccine' a PROVEN cure, when people that take it, still get Covid?" It isn't. The difference is people here on this forum argued that hydroxychloroquine is a "proven cure". I never said the vaccine is a cure. So to be specific, how is hydroxychloroquine a "proven cure" as claimed here multiple times and defended as such on this specific forum and only on this forum with the exemption of all other known forums, when the people who take it still get the disease? |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by MnSpring on 07/07/22 at 15:00:59 1C3C3E362B3C590 wrote:
The vaccine/s were claimed as, "proven cure". They were, 'claimed here multiple times and defended as such on this specific forum and only on this forum with the exemption of all other known forums, when the people who take it still get the disease'. ALSO By the POTUS, government controlled agencies, government controlled media sources, sheepol, etc. etc., etc. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/07/22 at 15:58:32 "ALSO By the POTUS, government controlled agencies, government controlled media sources, sheepol, etc. etc., etc. " Sure Billy broke a window too. But we are talking about the window Bobby broke. I am addressing people on this forum, specific to hydroxychloroquine and the phrase "proven cure" in exclusivity, not any other human that is not taking part of this discussion. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by MnSpring on 07/07/22 at 16:20:02 Would that be a 'Deflection', or still considered a 'spin' ? |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/08/22 at 02:14:12 Would that be a 'Deflection', or still considered a 'spin' ? Since you are responding to my question posed exclusively on this forum it would be You deflecting. Instead of addressing comments made here, you bring up comments made by other people about a different drug. If hydroxychloroquine is a "proven cure" which was said here and defended multiple times here, specifically here on this forum with the exemption of all other known locations, then how do people who take it still get the disease? Oh yeah we know how to answer that: "Politicians say that about other drugs!" That's deflection. Nobody is asking about what other people say about other drugs. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/08/22 at 02:17:11 E,do you Have to? This is a forum, on the Internet, not A debate team where everyone is competing for college credit. There are places where the people take chloroquine as a preventative to avoid malaria. Do some get it anyway? Seems to be, yeah. But the covid numbers in those places are negligible. Our great leaders poopooed everything that is not the jab. They TOLD US, Take the jab! You won't Need a mask and you won't get covid. The jab is Safe and Effective. Wrong on all counts. You can say whatever you want. But what I just typed is true. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/08/22 at 02:26:55 "There are places where the people take chloroquine as a preventative to avoid malaria. Do some get it anyway? Seems to be, yeah." That is because hydroxychloroquine is not a "proven cure" for malaria and nobody here has claimed that. "But the covid numbers in those places are negligible." No they aren't but 4 independent breakdowns using actual medical charting, mortality stats, funeral home intakes, and confirmed obituaries, is less convincing to you than a single Facebook post. There is no location where Covid 19 is less deadly because of hydroxychloroquine. The doctor that claimed she "cured" people can't offer one piece of evidence. Just because politicians spouted inaccurate garbage about the vaccine does not automatically make any claim about hydroxychloroquine true. If that doctor "cured" over 300 patients why hasn't a single medical record ever been found, or a single patient said "I was cured."? |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/08/22 at 02:34:36 I know why I'm up. What the heck are you doing up? https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/countries-who-take-the-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-have-lowest-cases-of-covid/ You asked me why.. Our government lies to us. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/08/22 at 03:01:10 Lower cases is being mixed with percentage rate. Notice they leave that part out. This evidence provides no distribution rates, and doesn't provide a percentage value to those that took hydroxychloroquine. Why has every single case study where they prove the participants took hydroxychloroquine show zero reduction in Covid-19 cases by percentage? Independent studies not Government ones. Again an article with zero evidence, just words, is more accurate that the case studies I provided here with thousands and thousands of verified data sets, medical records, hydroxychloroquine batch numbers etc. Nah, this article here with a guy posting words is definitely more accurate. Just because Governments lie does not mean everyone else saying the opposite is telling the truth. "I know why I'm up. What the heck are you doing up?" I sleep about 4-6 hours a day on an inconsistent schedule depending on what part of the world I need to be doing the most communication with on that day. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/08/22 at 03:35:30 sleep about 4-6 hours a day on an inconsistent schedule .. Yeah, me too.. I sleep until the exhaustion is insufficient to stay asleep because of an unhappy body. My dad could stay up, watching over an operation on a drilling rig for three days, just catching short naps, while they did what he said do. Not me. I'm Gonna go to sleep. I was pulling a double, our relief was one short,and wouldn't you know it? The drill bit took a dump and we had to pull the pipe, I was so exhausted by around three a.m. I was falling asleep standing, leaning on the tongs. The driller would come over and shake my elbow,, never treated me bad at all. I might get to bed in a while.. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by zevenenergie on 07/08/22 at 03:58:01 You say our government, but it's not our government. Democracy was an idea, and no more than that. It is better to speak now, about rulers of power because that corresponds much more with reality. If you look at the government, you see that the management comes from above and not from below. When the voting computer was introduced, nobody knew that you could manipulate that computer very easily. Now everyone knows that you can never secure a computer 100%. But we still want to continue to believe that there is such a thing as voter integrity. Trump's undoing of his victory, has destroyed the last bit of democracy. Life has symbolically shown us that, by the storming of the capitol. The appearance that is now being held up is a painful one. Why? Because trump has shown us once and for all that the government is nothing but a few posts where you can make a lot of money. And when Kennedy was murdered, the CIA started running the country. And just to be clear; the CIA is a criminal organization. China and Russia are actually pursuing a very realistic policy. The west has lost power. The world is on fire. And we think that certainties of the past still exist. Welkom to the new word order.http://https://i.imgur.com/DPwLzgrm.png http://https://i.imgur.com/RlkL0mG.jpg Maby this will wake you up: http://https://i.imgur.com/HWd8Vlpm.png |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/08/22 at 07:16:44 Zeven, looks like you have a better understanding of what is going on here than a bunch of people who were born here. It's common practice for people to call America a democracy, it was never meant to be. It Was a Republic, what it is, j dunno. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by MnSpring on 07/08/22 at 08:16:40 5C7C7E766B7C190 wrote:
INCORRECT "... you bring up comments made by other people about a different drug..." INCORRECT. Comments were about a, 'CURE'. And people on this forum were indicating that the vaccine 'CURED', and if you did not get the shot you were INFECTING. Perhaps a little simpler. You say, 'someone', said a over the counter drug, 'CURED'. I say, 'someone', said the vaccine, 'CURED'. BOTH, with no PROOF ! Of a, 'CURE'. ! |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/08/22 at 09:33:43 "ALSO By the POTUS, government controlled agencies, government controlled media sources, sheepol, etc. etc., etc." To my knowledge the POTUS has not made posts on this forum. I already agreed that humans, even on here, have incorrectly stated the vaccine will stop Covid, stop contagion rates etc. None of those people on here continuing to defend that stance. However, just today, another defense of hydroxychloroquine was posted by a forum member. Not someone that isn't on the forum. So, given that still to this day hydroxychloroquine is being defended as an effective treatment, with not one piece of actual evidence, I still would like to know how hydroxychloroquine is a proven cure when people who take it still get the disease. "The government lies to us" is not proof of medical efficacy. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/08/22 at 09:36:57 "Now everyone knows that you can never secure a computer 100%. But we still want to continue to believe that there is such a thing as voter integrity." So if a computer is not hooked to any other device how is it unsecure? A voting counter with no modem can not be interfaced to the internet, so how is it hacked by China? |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Serowbot on 07/08/22 at 11:00:19 6D4D4F475A4D280 wrote:
Jewish space lasers fired from Italy. Everybody knows that. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by pg on 07/08/22 at 13:31:46 3325322F37222F34400 wrote:
Jewish space lasers fired from Italy. Everybody knows that.[/quote] This one really wasn't to difficult, all kinds of devices work without being connected - Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, cellular radio frequencies or cell phones. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/online-vulnerable-experts-find-nearly-three-dozen-u-s-voting-n1112436 The three largest voting manufacturing companies — Election Systems &Software, Dominion Voting Systems and Hart InterCivic — have acknowledged they all put modems in some of their tabulators and scanners. The reason? So that unofficial election results can more quickly be relayed to the public. Those modems connect to cell phone networks, which, in turn, are connected to the internet. The largest manufacturer of voting machines, ES&S, told NBC News their systems are protected by firewalls and are not on the “public internet.” But both Skoglund and Andrew Appel, a Princeton computer science professor and expert on elections, said such firewalls can and have been breached. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/08/22 at 15:21:13 "This one really wasn't to difficult, all kinds of devices work without being connected - Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, cellular radio frequencies or cell phones." This is true, I should have been more clear that non-connected devices have zero connection. They are known as "rocks" or otherwise a machine that requires a physical memory device be inserted to the machine. I still haven't seen evidence showing actual manipulation. I even talked with a few guys that went to Lindell's thing and they were pissed. He basically had nothing and told them to "figure it out" which was basically interpreted as make nothing into something. In CO we had this big deal about election fraud and the video footage literally showed the people that were claiming there was no way X-process could happen in 47 seconds doing it themselves, in 47 seconds. I don't have a problem with examining these things for weaknesses, but the Dominion case was nothing more than a guy saying it happened on a podcast with zero evidence presented, even to this day. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by pg on 07/08/22 at 19:41:41 4767656D7067020 wrote:
Please aware that door can swing in more than one direction. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/08/22 at 21:59:32 Please aware that door can swing in more than one direction. Sure it can, but I prefer the direction that isn't conjecture and analogy if I am going to say there is "proof". What kind of world would I be living in if everything I think is true, is actually true? |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by pg on 07/09/22 at 09:12:47 7B5B59514C5B3E0 wrote:
I can appreciate trying to ascertain the truth; however, the route to that principle is usually along a left leaning path. Perhaps it is just me; although, I don’t recall you present that position to support Donald Trump, ever…. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by MnSpring on 07/09/22 at 10:10:57 4767656D7067020 wrote:
Let's see, you; 'talked with a few guys' That you said; "went to Lindell's thing" Then you said; "He basically had nothing" (biased on what you were told) Then you said, they said; "told them to "figure it out" " Then you interpeted; "make nothing into something" That is your Proof ? OK Got it ! |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Serowbot on 07/09/22 at 11:34:57 It was up to Lindell to prove election fraud. He presented nothing. It's not up to his audience to prove to him that there wasn't. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by pg on 07/09/22 at 13:50:31 3D2B3C21392C213A4E0 wrote:
No no, he plays that card when he gets backed into a corner or has no other move. How about the extraordinary claim of Russian collusion. Yeah, his political opponent started and paid for that one? Or perhaps the golden showers...... No I don't remember ant posts about we need exemplary proof....... Best regards |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/09/22 at 14:02:14 I can appreciate trying to ascertain the truth; however, the route to that principle is usually along a left leaning path. Perhaps it is just me; although, I don’t recall you present that position to support Donald Trump, ever…. I've never stated I support or do not support any POTUS. What I do not support is when any human on any topic claims something happened, and when I ask for more information they say more words. I know what they think happened, but I want to research it. More talking is not more facts. So if someone claims voting machines were hacked or altered I would want to know where they got that information. So far I personally haven't seen actual data that shows high level fraud. the spike in results from PA that Webstermark presented is suspect, but there isn't anything concrete there to go off of. I am fine with saying it exists, but not off of somebodies words alone. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/09/22 at 14:06:16 "Let's see, you; 'talked with a few guys' That you said; "went to Lindell's thing" Then you said; "He basically had nothing" (biased on what you were told) Then you said, they said; "told them to "figure it out" " Then you interpeted; "make nothing into something" That is your Proof ? OK Got it !" No. I never said it was "proof" of anything. I said it was the information I have. The only thing it proves is that Lindell's claims were false. Not one person has ever used his information data to show fraud, that should mean something. Of the tangible information I have access to about election fraud, none of it so far points to the outcomes that would exist if it were practical. One thing that stood out to me regarding the 2020 election was that election fraud in general, across the country wasn't the issue, just election fraud in locations that would equal a win. If I were the POTUS I'd be worried about all of it. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by MnSpring on 07/09/22 at 16:09:57 7151535B4651340 wrote:
Pick one. |
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Title: Re: What a violent insurrection looks like Post by Eegore on 07/09/22 at 16:26:16 Pick one. It proves Lindell's claims were false. It does not prove election fraud did or did not happen. So it is not "My" "Proof" of anything fraud related. It is however proof Lindell did not have the information he claimed he did. |
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