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Message started by Serowbot on 06/28/22 at 07:59:36

Title: Rudy assaulted
Post by Serowbot on 06/28/22 at 07:59:36

Wow!.. the violence of that pat on the back...
He's lucky to be alive.
;D
https://www.yahoo.com/news/grocery-store-employee-accused-attacking-031413038.htm

Title: Re: Rudy assaulted
Post by Serowbot on 06/28/22 at 08:46:10

This is hilarious!...  ;D ;D ;D

Courageous Giuliani Says Footage of Near-Fatal Pat on the Back Is ‘Deceptive’
https://www.yahoo.com/news/courageous-giuliani-says-footage-near-172703749.html

Title: Re: Rudy assaulted
Post by Serowbot on 06/28/22 at 08:52:40

If only Rudy had had an AR15... that dude would be dead.   ;D

Title: Re: Rudy assaulted
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/28/22 at 10:51:49

Only a chikkinshit would try to call that an assault.

Title: Re: Rudy assaulted
Post by MnSpring on 06/28/22 at 15:18:53


5B4D5A475F4A475C280 wrote:
If only Rudy had had an AR15... "


Says someone who,
       says
they have a gun.
But believes,
NO ONE else should !

“The police observed the whole video tape
—not the little piece shown to you by the dishonest press—
and they upgraded his charge to second-degree assault, a felony.”


Title: Re: Rudy assaulted
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/28/22 at 15:41:08

So, that clip wasn't the whole thing? You don't mean to tell me someone edited it in a deceptive manner, do you?
I'm having a hard time envisioning how it went. The clip I saw was just a good clap on the back. And the guy walked away. So, did he smash Rudy wait for him to gather himself up and then do what we saw?

Title: Re: Rudy assaulted
Post by Serowbot on 06/28/22 at 16:19:54


54774A696B70777E190 wrote:
“The police observed the whole video tape
—not the little piece shown to you by the dishonest press—
and they upgraded his charge to second-degree assault, a felony.”


You mean they "upgraded" the charges downward?

Gill, an employee at the ShopRite, was initially arrested on a felony charge of second-degree assault involving a person over 65. But that charge was downgraded to misdemeanor assault, while two other misdemeanors for menacing and harassment were added by Assistant District Attorney Darren Albanese in Staten Island on Monday, the New York Daily News reported.

Gill’s lawyer, Susan Platis, reportedly said in court the alleged slap “appears to be a tap on the back” and the video “is actually not helpful to the prosecution.”

“I think it actually shows a tap on the back, which is not criminal conduct,” Platis said in court. “There’s no intent here to harm anyone. [Giuliani] may have been surprised and stunned being touched in the back...but he’s a public figure, your honor. Being spoken to and things being said to him should be of no surprise and should be anticipated.”

Title: Re: Rudy assaulted
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/28/22 at 22:43:36

The Vicious Perpetrator shows up about five seconds into the clip. He walks by and puts a mild slap on Rudi, he didn't even move.

https://nypost.com/2022/06/26/rudy-giuliani-attacked-inside-staten-island-shoprite/



IDK the letter of the law, maybe that constitutes assault, but it doesn't meet the threshold in my eyes.

Title: Re: Rudy assaulted
Post by pg on 06/29/22 at 14:08:27

Also, NY has a law that protects senior citizens and escalates charges for an offender.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Rudy assaulted
Post by WebsterMark on 06/29/22 at 15:48:37

OK, so I finally watched this. The last link in this thread didn’t work so I just found it on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivEAGEMgBaU

If you watch it again you can see him visibly move forward an inch or two after the slap. So if you come up and just tap somebody on the back they’re not gonna move forward at all so I think the tap was much more than a tap it was a little bit harder than what it seems in the video. Was it an assault? I wouldn’t charge somebody with an assault for something like that.

Now, watch it again but this time watch the woman standing to Rudy’s left. She immediately reaches forward which tells me it was way more than a playful tap. she probably heard it and saw Rudy move forward which indicates it was a bit more than a tap. Again what is an assault?

But while there’s no sound, let it play through again and watch the people in the group. It’s clear the guy is yelling and I’ve read that he was yelling profanities. So to me when you put that together with a “playful tap” that pushes him forward an inch or two and the woman directly next to him recognizes that, I’d say again this is more than just a nothing burger

Title: Re: Rudy assaulted
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/22 at 16:52:42

I knew the guy was hollering about
You are gonna Kill Women,, as if abortion is Necessary that often to save a woman's life.

Title: Re: Rudy assaulted
Post by Eegore on 06/29/22 at 19:42:43


 I'd have to agree with Webstermark in regards to utilizing the female to the left of Giuliani to assess the impact since we have such a poor video to assess physical impact.

 While I don't think she reacted to Giuliani's physical movement, I do think she reacted to the sound of the impact.  This, to me, seems as if it was more than a "tap" but not worthy of an assault charge.

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