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Message started by Smerft85 on 06/27/22 at 21:08:20

Title: I now have 3!
Post by Smerft85 on 06/27/22 at 21:08:20

Just picked up my third Savage with good title. One for the wife, one for me to just fix up back to factory and the third will eventually get a weld on hardtail even though the roads around here are terrible. Think I already have the newest one diagnosed with a bad petcock and battery, the one I got a week ago for my wife is a runner, and the first one I picked up somehow ended up with a wd-40 straw weaved under the valves which caused me to strip it down completely just to rebuild the entire thing. Once I get a few more posts done and can add pictures I will do so, still on probation  :'(

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/28/22 at 11:19:28

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Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/28/22 at 11:19:42

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Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/28/22 at 11:25:27

Let's get it Done,Duude!

How did anyone get a squirt straw in there and not know it?
If I discovered something like that, I would be concerned about what other moronic crap I might find.

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by Smerft85 on 06/28/22 at 15:10:59

That's exactly why I tore that one down to a pile of parts and started from scratch, I got it mostly rebuilt now enough that I was able to hear it fire up for a few seconds. I figured $300 for a 90% complete bike with clear title wasn't so bad and it gave me a winter project. The one I just picked up yesterday I think is a simple fix, previous owner said he couldn't get it to run and was acting like it wasn't getting fuel, petcock in the prime position dumped fuel, so now I wait for a good battery to check my theory. I'll post the pictures of the wd-40 straw in the valves once I'm able to post pictures.

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by Smerft85 on 06/28/22 at 17:34:10

Testing for a picture of the spray straw, hope it works.

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by Smerft85 on 06/28/22 at 17:35:07

And the other side of the head.

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by TheSneeze on 06/28/22 at 17:53:33

Just when you think you have seen every kind of engine failure...   :o

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by SoC on 06/28/22 at 20:29:16

Welcome to the club. I have 2 riders an '03' and a 2011, both have been set up differently and make their personalities known. Like you I have a 3rd and a 4th, one titled wreck and another titled frame for a hoped for one day chopper project. Thought I would get started on it last winter, but in late fall bought a Honda Fury and my attention got diverted.

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by Smerft85 on 06/28/22 at 22:04:43

Understandable, I've got 13 bikes total at my property with a box of parts or maintenance stuff next to each of them. It's never ending but worth it.

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by Serowbot on 06/29/22 at 06:21:19


635D554256440805300 wrote:
Understandable, I've got 13 bikes total at my property with a box of parts or maintenance stuff next to each of them. It's never ending but worth it.

No way I could handle that.
You da' man... 8-)

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by Smerft85 on 06/29/22 at 06:28:55

My secret to it is being a full time dad, I basically retired at 34 so I like to have something to do.  As a bonus, when I hit a point with one bike that I'm stumped with, I can move onto the next one. Right now I can't figure out my most recent Savage purchase, I pulled the carb, attached a jumper battery and turned it over with a touch of starter fluid in the cylinder but it won't fire, has spark and I forced the air and fuel, confusing me a bit.

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/22 at 17:20:28

I'd check the valve timing. Turn the thing over, using a socket on the left side, under the screw in plug. Rotate the crank the way the wheels go.

Ohh,yeah, you can get a spark with the plug out,because the battery isn't making compression. If the voltage drops too much it won't spark. I don't remember the critical voltage. But if you have a good, hot battery, it should go.
If you have been cranking on it and not putting a charge to it, you might want to get the battery juiced up.

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by Smerft85 on 06/29/22 at 20:17:00

Everything sounds right as it turns over so I wasn't leaning toward timing just yet. I did get a small backfire and flame out of the carb side (carb still removed) so I'm curious if the previous owner may have put a plug in it that doesn't reach far enough, not letting the spark be in the cylinder enough to ignite, maybe a long shot but I figure I can barrow parts from the other one that isn't finished yet to test a few things. The one I'm rebuilding that had the straw in the valves is sitting in almost identical condition and will fire right up with a sprits of starting fluid so I'll try that plug in it first and test my theory. Whichever one will fire up and run first will get plated first, will be nice to have an identical ride as the wife to cruise around with her and not feel like I'm babying a bigger bike too much, cruising my 05 victory vegas with her gz250 isn't as fun as it sounds.

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/22 at 21:28:52

so I'll try that plug in it first and..


Sounds like a good start.
If the plugs are different, yeeHaa!
I use ether any time I'm having trouble getting one to lite.

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by Dave on 06/30/22 at 03:33:08


5E60687F6B7935380D0 wrote:
One for the wife, one for me to just fix up back to factory and the third will eventually get a weld on hardtail even though the roads around here are terrible.  :'(


Before you weld on a hardtail..........I would replace the shocks with struts and see how "hateful" the ride becomes.

I really can't understand how anyone can ride a hardtail - yesterday I hit a bump in the road that threw me out of the seat on my BMW that has lots of suspension travel......I can't imagine doing that on a bike with a hardtail (I would have been launched over the handlebars).

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by Fast 650 on 06/30/22 at 06:50:57


18232E3928243F39222A27384B0 wrote:
I really can't understand how anyone can ride a hardtail - yesterday I hit a bump in the road that threw me out of the seat on my BMW that has lots of suspension travel......I can't imagine doing that on a bike with a hardtail (I would have been launched over the handlebars).


I have had a few hardtails over the years and they aren't nearly as bad as people make them out to be if that is what you started out on and learned how to ride them. Most people who try a hardtail for the first time will ride it like it was their own bike with suspension so cushy that they can ride over cinderblocks and not know it. They will blast through every pothole they see on the hardtail and then complain about how bad the ride is. The trick to riding a hardtail is to watch out for bumps or potholes and avoid hitting them while slowing down for the ones that you can't avoid.

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by Smerft85 on 06/30/22 at 06:54:35

Wife also has an 04 1200 sportster that we put a 3" slammer kit on so she could reach (she's only 4'11"), that bike may as well have a hardtail rear. So far I'm the only one able to ride that one and it's given me a sneak peak of what a hardtail will be like. Whichever one I put the hardtail on won't be ridden regularly anyway, with 12 other bikes to choose from there's no need to make it my daily ride. I fully agree if this was my every day ride though, I wouldnt do it at all if I didn't have options nor would I recommend it to anyone else for their only bike. Only reason I want to do it anyway is for that old school bobber look, and it just doesn't look right with a set of shocks in my opinion.

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by DragBikeMike on 06/30/22 at 10:34:07

That spray straw has to be the coolest thing I ever saw.  Pretty neat trick.  Both valves, what are the odds?  Thanks for the pics.

Title: Re: I now have 3!
Post by Smerft85 on 07/10/22 at 11:31:04

Well I wasn't lucky enough with the 97 for it to be just the plug, as trivial as it may sound, I'm going to pull the exhaust and make sure I don't have another squirt straw conundrum on my hands, then I'll check into timing. For now I'm borrowing a few things from it for the other two so I can get them road worthy.

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