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Message started by WebsterMark on 06/23/22 at 08:05:53

Title: 2A …
Post by WebsterMark on 06/23/22 at 08:05:53

… is even more firmly entrenched than before. Decision today basically said New York State couldn’t pick and choose who has the right to carry a firearm to defend themselves. The New York law said applicants had to provide a reason why they wanted to carry a weapon and then it was up to the State to decide if that was valid. Seems like that should’ve been an easy unanimous decision.

Title: Re: 2A …
Post by MnSpring on 06/23/22 at 11:28:38

Wait !!!!!!!
The First Time
a State changed the,
‘May Issue’
(Pay the local Sheriff enough cash under the table, and you ‘MAY’ carry)
To a, ‘Shall Issue”,
(With qualifiers such as background check, class room education, and range qualification)
That State (and all that followed)
Was to have ‘MURDER for someone looking at one the wrong way !
(Instead, it REDUCED Crime in EVERY State it was applied)

What will happen now to,
NY/Calf, (and like FDS States) ?

As WM said,
It SHOULD have been a,
unanimous decision.

It IS a Freedom.

Title: Re: 2A …
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/23/22 at 13:02:29

SCOTUS told New York their law is unconstitutional.

Title: Re: 2A …
Post by Eegore on 06/23/22 at 16:13:59

"The New York law said applicants had to provide a reason why they wanted to carry a weapon and then it was up to the State to decide if that was valid."

Concealed weapon correct?

Title: Re: 2A …
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/23/22 at 19:42:43

As IF open carry would be okay?

Title: Re: 2A …
Post by WebsterMark on 06/24/22 at 04:44:28

7555575F4255300 wrote:

"The New York law said applicants had to provide a reason why they wanted to carry a weapon and then it was up to the State to decide if that was valid."

Concealed weapon correct?

Yes. And as was pointed out but ignored of course, CCW are rarely charged with instigating violent crime. Not saying it doesn’t happen, just saying it doesn’t seriously contribute to crime.

Title: Re: 2A …
Post by WebsterMark on 06/24/22 at 04:46:56

Clarence Thomas: The constitutional right to bear arms in public for self-defense is not ‘a second-class right, subject to an entirely different body of rules than the other Bill of Rights guarantees.

Title: Re: 2A …
Post by Eegore on 06/24/22 at 05:39:03

Yes. And as was pointed out but ignored of course, CCW are rarely charged with instigating violent crime. Not saying it doesn’t happen, just saying it doesn’t seriously contribute to crime.

Where was this pointed out? I re-read the entirety of your post and saw nothing related.

Title: Re: 2A …
Post by pg on 06/24/22 at 07:07:22

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2022/06/23/alito-takes-a-blow-torch-to-liberal-justices-opinion-on-latest-gun-case-n2609218

Best regards,

Title: Re: 2A …
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/24/22 at 09:11:13

One thing is certain, violent crime perpetrated by CC licensed people would be pounded on 24/7 . Some things people shouldn't have to be told.
The people who are following the rules enough to get the permit, are probably not violent criminals
And the violent criminals are not the kind of people who will pay for an instructor and get a permit.