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Message started by Bamm on 06/16/22 at 13:55:00

Title: Ideas Please Rocker/Pedal Shifter?
Post by Bamm on 06/16/22 at 13:55:00

Hey All,

Long time no chat. Long time no ride. But, I am about to go empty the tank. My question is as follows...I really would like the heel toe shift, can it be done with the set up like a vstar classic?

Bamm

Title: Re: Ideas Please Rocker/Pedal Shifter?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/16/22 at 16:19:23

As far as I know, not off the shelf. So your skills and abilities to
Look at the problem
Use your mental CAD ,figure out what you need and scrounge up the stuff to build it. It's well within the rules to buy the long pedal and work from there. Are you planning on the platform instead of the peg?
Go Stare at the shifter
Let how it works go through your eyes and Think about how to accomplish what you want.

https://hotvehs.com/what-is-a-motorcycle-heel-toe-shifter/

It doesn't seem like a technically difficult thing.
Buy or build the parts, unless you want the platform instead of the peg.

Title: Re: Ideas Please Rocker/Pedal Shifter?
Post by Bamm on 06/17/22 at 10:01:21

I really do want the platform instead of pegs. I have very small feet and looking down to find my shifter is a problem.

Bamm

Title: Re: Ideas Please Rocker/Pedal Shifter?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/17/22 at 17:05:04

What kinda footwear are you using?

If your shifter is out beyond your toe when you have the heel up against the peg,maybe get a shifter and have it shortened to put the rubber on top of your big toe?
Before I try to solve it, let me know what is going on. And No, hunting for the shifter is way not safe. You need to be able to operate the shifter without delay. I'm finally Seeing a couple of potential answers, but I need to know more.

If you put the arch of your foot on the peg and slide your foot forward till the heels hits the peg,toes pointed straight forward, not out,what happens?

Title: Re: Ideas Please Rocker/Pedal Shifter?
Post by och on 06/17/22 at 17:50:31

Hill and toe shifter is going to be super weird without floor boards... which would be totally weird on the little S40.

Title: Re: Ideas Please Rocker/Pedal Shifter?
Post by wheelbender6 on 06/18/22 at 08:27:28

I've seen foot boards on a V-Star 650. it looked normal on it.

Title: Re: Ideas Please Rocker/Pedal Shifter?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/18/22 at 08:59:28

Solving the problem may not require all of that. If someone has such small feet that getting a toe under the shifter is a problem, how long are those legs? Will boards be in the way getting a foot down?
I ride with my feet pointed straight down the road. If someone rides with toes pointing out,maybe the answer is
Adjust foot on peg.
Or maybe steel toed boots.
A picture of the foot on the peg might help.

Title: Re: Ideas Please Rocker/Pedal Shifter?
Post by Serowbot on 06/18/22 at 09:28:19

I started riding when I was 11, and my first bike was a 60cc Yamaha with a heel toe shifter. My tiny feet rested between the tabs and every shift required a foot shift either forward or back.
Forward to adulthood, and I have owned two bikes with heel toe shifts, and now I have to decide which end to rest my weight on. This is annoying too.
If you really want one... I suggest measuring the output shaft diameter,.. and going to a dealer and finding one from another bike with the same.
... but,.. sit on it and feel where your foot will rest.
You need Shaq size feet to rest on both.
Maybe you need a shorter shifter? In which case... do the same.
Go to a dealership and find a bike with a shifter that fits yer' foot.

I'm not trying to talk you out of what you want,... but I've ridden a lot of bikes over 50 years, and heel toes annoy the heck out me personally.
... my riding buddy, on the other hand loves them.

So what do I know?... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Ideas Please Rocker/Pedal Shifter?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/18/22 at 13:03:33

Time for details from the OP.

Title: Re: Ideas Please Rocker/Pedal Shifter?
Post by Ruttly on 06/19/22 at 21:47:05

I saw a cool universal hand shifter for motorcycles on Amazon the other day. But these are not for everyone , most people crash before they get it down

Title: Re: Ideas Please Rocker/Pedal Shifter?
Post by wheelbender6 on 06/20/22 at 07:31:28

How doe you do the hand shift? Move the clutch lever to the right side?

Title: Re: Ideas Please Rocker/Pedal Shifter?
Post by Edub on 06/21/22 at 19:47:03

There are several ways to do a hand shifter, plenty of choppers have “jockey shifters”, they call them this because you have to reach behind your leg to shift.

Another solution I saw on a trike ridden by a paralyzed guy was to place a clutch lever on the shift handle. Worked well for him.

Indians and Harleys before the late 1950’s had left foot clutches, so the shift lever was fairly straightforward to use.

If you want a right hand shift, no clutch lever relocation would be needed, although the linkage could get complicated fast.

For the original poster, have a look at the heel toe shifter on a Royal Enfield Meteor. It’s simple bent steel, and wouldn’t be too difficult to fabricate something similar. They don’t have footboards, either.