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Message started by Evanswv on 06/06/22 at 15:03:22

Title: Can you still find non ethanol?
Post by Evanswv on 06/06/22 at 15:03:22

The town closest to me had only one station that sold non ethanol gasoline, and the can't get it now, and claim that it's unavailable in the U.S. now. I like to run it, but have had to fill up with ethanol blend lately. I was just wondering if any of you can still find the ethanol free gasoline. I know I have to run what I can get in town, but was just curious, if it's really unavailable. I have saw videos of people mixing water with ethanol blend gas ,in a container with a valve on the bottom, and then draining the water and ethanol out of the bottom of the container , but I don't think it's worth the hassle. Have any of you bdid this?

Title: Re: Can you still find non ethanol?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/06/22 at 20:02:27

Murphy's in Longview Texas has it. Did last time I saw,,it's More expensive,,

Title: Re: Can you still find non ethanol?
Post by Dave on 06/07/22 at 02:56:15

I was just in TN/NC and there were plenty of stations that offered ethanol free fuel as an option.....there are lots of motorcycles in the area who don't mind paying extra for good fuel. The person that told you it wasn't available in the US anymore was wrong - although it could be that they don't want to carry it anymore or their distributor isn't going to haul a small amount of gasoline for just their delivery.

Mixing water and gasoline is a fools game......the gasoline does keep some of the water in suspension - that is not something I want in my engine or steel fuel tank.

If you check the Puregas website you may be able to find another station in your area.https://www.pure-gas.org/

The local boat Marinas here carry 91 Octane gasoline without ethanol. But you need to take a fuel can as you can't ride the bike out onto the dock.

Title: Re: Can you still find non ethanol?
Post by Evanswv on 06/07/22 at 13:28:56

Thanks

Title: Re: Can you still find non ethanol?
Post by Armen on 06/08/22 at 20:23:06

I live near a large lake with lots of powerboats. Right across the street from the lake is a station that sells non-ethanol.

Title: Re: Can you still find non ethanol?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/08/22 at 23:59:16

And, since the Mechanic in Chief has decided to dictate 15% ethanol, you might shop for some non ethanol, to blend. Some people don't think most cars and small engines will tolerate it well.

Title: Re: Can you still find non ethanol?
Post by Dave on 06/09/22 at 03:28:59

5E4147405D5A6B5B6B53414D06340 wrote:

And, since the Mechanic in Chief has decided to dictate 15% ethanol, you might shop for some non ethanol, to blend. Some people don't think most cars and small engines will tolerate it well.

Modern fuel injected cars (especially Flex Fuel models) driven regularly will handle the 15% fine - engines with carbs will hate it. Storing an engine with ethanol laced fuel for any length of time can corrode aluminum and rust steel when the fuel absorbs enough moisture from the air to cause phase separation.

The Ethanol fuel scam is such a farce - even more so now that fertilizer is going to be in short supply and continued drought is forecast for the western states.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-yDKeya4SU&t=15s

Title: Re: Can you still find non ethanol?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/09/22 at 04:59:44

I think the whole thing is a loser.
Food production acreage wasted.
Water,to raise it and cook it down, not just a few gallons,
Diesel for tractors,harvesters,fertilizer
IDK if farmers are getting subsidies, but I wouldn't doubt it.
I don't believe it is remotely a good idea.

Title: Re: Can you still find non ethanol?
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 06/09/22 at 10:56:32

if you have a small airport near you, 100LL AvGas has no ethanol and is formulated to be stored for a minimum of 2 years. I store all of my carb'd bikes with 100LL for the winter and as a result, I haven't cleaned a carb in years (with the exception of newly acquired bikes).

Title: Re: Can you still find non ethanol?
Post by Ruttly on 06/09/22 at 11:28:37

I’m not for sure , but I think here in CA unless your buying race fuel , all others are at least 10%. I have noticed since that war started or gas don’t smell like gas maybe smells like thinner of some sort. It maybe they changed to summer blend. But it smells weird. I’ll check the next few fill ups and check ethanol %. I know some states have E85 I guess it’s 15% ?

Title: Re: Can you still find non ethanol?
Post by Dave on 06/10/22 at 08:11:40

684F4E4E56433A0 wrote:

But it smells weird. I’ll check the next few fill ups and check ethanol %. I know some states have E85 I guess it’s 15% ?

E85 is 85% ethanol and only 15% gas.....it can only be run in Flex Fuel engines. (It most likely has the 15% gas so you can get the engine to start....race engines that use 100% ethanol require a shot of gasoline to get the engine started).

E10 is 10% ethanol and what most of us have available at the pump.
E15 is 15% ethanol and I anticipate will be bad for any equipment that is dormant for a while (lawn equipment, chainsaws, etc).

Title: Re: Can you still find non ethanol?
Post by SCS40 on 06/12/22 at 19:38:22

+1000 on https://www.pure-gas.org/.

There's also an app for both Apple and Android.

Title: Re: Can you still find non ethanol?
Post by Evanswv on 06/12/22 at 20:27:18

7464741317270 wrote:

+1000 on https://www.pure-gas.org/.

There's also an app for both Apple and Android.

Title: Re: Can you still find non ethanol?
Post by och on 06/12/22 at 20:35:00

I dont think you can find it anywhere in NYC. :(

Title: Re: Can you still find non ethanol?
Post by SCS40 on 06/13/22 at 03:02:56

7645525D400A04330 wrote:

[quote author=7464741317270 link=1654553002/0#11 date=1655087902]+1000 on https://www.pure-gas.org/.

There's also an app for both Apple and Android.

Thanks. The pure-gas sight shows 21 County Market, in Ripley WV, and CMart in Cottageville WV as having it.I live in Evans, which is in between the two, but I always bought it in Ripley, because I'm in Ripley a lot. Both places are owned by the same man. Neither place had it, and it was an employee that told me they can't get it I haven't checked with them since posting this, but I would bet they still aren't getting it, and the pure gas sight hasn't been updated ..[/quote]

That's the good and bad of the site: it's totally free and user driven. I've found similar, as well as stations that sell E0 and weren't listed. It's really up to us to keep the list current.

The only other suggestion I have is QT if they're in you're area. There's also an app which tells which stations have E0.

I think the other poster is absolutely right on NYC and any other large metro area. Again, you can thank our politicians (and Big Agra) for The Clean Air Act.

Title: Re: Can you still find non ethanol?
Post by Evanswv on 06/13/22 at 11:17:28

I called 21 Market today, and evidently they have it again. The clerk seemed a little confused when I asked if they had non ethanol again, and then said " yeah we have the 90" octane.