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Message started by danyboy on 04/22/22 at 10:37:51

Title: Unknown connector
Post by danyboy on 04/22/22 at 10:37:51

Bought a 2002 Savage almost all apart, wiring harness undone. I was careful and tried hooking back all connectors together.
I'm left with one connector and can't find a match for it. Is it possible this is a spare for whatever reason ?

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 04/22/22 at 10:43:48

Regulator/Rectifyer

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by danyboy on 04/22/22 at 10:45:38

Doubt it, 2 connectors coming from regulator/rectifier smaller and both hooked up. Connector I was asking is wright above carburetor.

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/22/22 at 11:11:22

Routing the wires that run near the belt is important.

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by TheSneeze on 04/22/22 at 11:36:22

The wiring diagram indicates it is for the Ignitor, based on the wire colors I see and the position of the connector on your bike.

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by danyboy on 04/22/22 at 13:26:10

77684D4A404945564F240 wrote:

The wiring diagram indicates it is for the Ignitor, based on the wire colors I see and the position of the connector on your bike.

Igniter ? No, igniter is a different connection

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by TheSneeze on 04/22/22 at 13:48:30

Is the decomp. Controller plugged in yet? Other than that, the only other connector in the diagram with only five wires is the right handlebar controls. Get a wiring diagram and start eliminating possibilities.

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by TheSneeze on 04/22/22 at 17:27:38

Unless your bike has been modified to eliminate the Decomp Solenoid and controller (and add a manual lever for it), yes it has one.

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/22/22 at 17:54:11

If the connector is near the forks,it's not plugging in the back end of the bike.

The wiring harness describes where it goes Somewhat.
So, where can it go comfortably?

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by Dave on 04/23/22 at 04:56:25

Maybe this will help.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1099317926

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by verslagen1 on 04/23/22 at 05:28:00

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Decomp controller only has 2 wire connector. Elimination ? When all the harness connectors are plugged in, and they all have unique connectors, and you have one 5 wire female connector left with no other 5 wire male connector for it, if you don't call this elimination, I don't know what would be.

Decomp solenoid has a 2 wire connector. The decomp controler has 6 or 8 and is a little black box above the carb.

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by danyboy on 04/23/22 at 06:06:55

041B3E39333A36253C570 wrote:

The wiring diagram indicates it is for the Ignitor, based on the wire colors I see and the position of the connector on your bike.

Igniter already plugged in. See picture above.

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by TheSneeze on 04/23/22 at 07:13:07

When I mentioned elimination, I said to get a copy of the wiring diagram and start checking off (eliminating) what is already plugged in. Eventually you will find it. The diagram will also help identify the connector by the wire colors at the connector.

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by DragBikeMike on 04/23/22 at 11:51:41

It's for the decompression relay, which should be located directly above the carburetor.

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 04/23/22 at 11:53:58

Can you identify the exact color wires in that connector, it's hard to tell from the photo.I can only see Yellow/White and the orange looks like it could be Orange/White or Orange/Green.

The only 5-wire connector I can see in a 2002 LS650 is this one:

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 04/24/22 at 07:01:05

That is clearly the decomp controller. You don't actually "need" the decomp system at all. Most cafe conversions remove the entire system because we don't have anywhere to hide the components. The system is there for an outlier use case where the battery might not be able to overcome the compression of the engine. In thousands of starts I've yet to come across this condition. And I'm not away of anyone ever posting "I had to use the decomp yesterday".

You can put a simple lever on the cylinder head where the solenoid is located for that 1 in million start.

If you want to keep it, just look in the for sale section for people who list cafe conversion take-off parts. Someone on the forum has one.

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by danyboy on 04/24/22 at 07:05:17

Managed to contact the guy who sold me the bike and asked him, with picture of this Decomp relay ( or controller, whatever you call it), if he could look and try to find it somewhere. He said he had found it and had lost my contact to let me know. Should mail it this week.
Would that be enough to keep the bike from starting ? Doesn't even crank.

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by verslagen1 on 04/24/22 at 08:30:46

6E6B64736865730A0 wrote:

Yes, the starter button goes thru there.

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by danyboy on 04/24/22 at 10:07:35

5C4F5859464B4D4F441B2A0 wrote:

[quote author=6E6B64736865730A0 link=1650649072/15#16 date=1650809117]Managed to contact the guy who sold me the bike and asked him, with picture of this Decomp relay ( or controller, whatever you call it), if he could look and try to find it somewhere. He said he had found it and had lost my contact to let me know. Should mail it this week.
Would that be enough to keep the bike from starting ? Doesn't even crank.

Thanks
Yes, the starter button goes thru there.[/quote]

Title: Re: Unknown connector
Post by verslagen1 on 04/24/22 at 16:21:28

you can bypass the decomp/starter controller by finding the wire in the connector from the starter button and the one to the starter and putting in a jumper with 2 spade connectors.