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Message started by eau de sauvage on 03/28/22 at 15:51:38

Title: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/28/22 at 15:51:38

In fact on the whole they appear to be as thick as two planks. Don't take my word for it.

https://www.salon.com/2022/03/23/new-research-on-voters-theyre-not-the-sharpest-tools-in-the-box/


Overall, the model predicts that almost 73% of respondents who missed all 10 questions would vote for Trump (remember, that is controlling for education and the other factors), while about 51% who were average on the exam are expected to vote for Trump. Only 35% of people who had a perfect score on the exam are predicted to be Trump supporters.

Notably, this very strong, significant effect of verbal ability can be identified within educational groups. While non-college whites certainly turned out more heavily for Trump, the smart ones did not — only 38% of those with perfect scores are expected to go for Trump, and only 46% of non-college graduates who scored a standard deviation above the mean. The same is true for college graduates — low cognition college graduates were more likely to vote for Trump. ...

What is really depressing isn't just the poles of the vocabulary exam, it's the average. The mean and median of the scale is 6 — so half of white Americans missed 4 of the easy vocabulary questions.

Title: Re: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/28/22 at 15:56:01

... Spouting off obvious untruths is no longer a mark of shame, because even basic historical and contemporary truths are not recognized. We seem to have a stable set of about 30% of Americans, 35% of white Americans, who are oblivious to political realities and incapable and unwilling to come to terms with any of our key social problems. The increasing control over public education by right-wing fanatics is entrenching ignorance and intellectual laziness in future generations. It does not bode well for the future of American democracy.

But what about Hilary's emails?

Title: Re: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by pg on 03/28/22 at 15:58:32

Are you and your country men still operating internment camps?

Best regards,

Title: Re: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/28/22 at 17:22:20

Obviously being American you and a Trump voter you are naturally unaware of the US internment of Japanese born or US born, US citizens during the war. Thanks for proving my point.


Pip Pip!

Title: Re: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by pg on 03/28/22 at 18:24:36


73617576616765000 wrote:
Obviously being American you and a Trump voter you are naturally unaware of the US internment of Japanese born or US born, US citizens during the war. Thanks for proving my point.


Pip Pip!



That was an extremely poor attempt at a deflection.  First, the war you are referring to ended 77 years ago.  The camps I inquired about are likely in operation now and if they are not they were operating in 2021.  Moreover, they are targeting non-combative citizens when no conflict exists.  And for some reason you feel you have the moral high ground to condemn the future of democracy in the US......

Best regards,

Title: Re: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/28/22 at 18:53:39

bejeezus, how fcuking thick are you? I post a thread about pointing to serious research on the intelligence of trump voters and you bring up interment camps and tell me I'm deflecting. Yeah right.

Stay on topic if you want some respect dipsh!t

Pip Pip!


Edit: in retrospect that was unfair of me to request you stay on topic because as the survey proves on the whole you're not very smart. In fact not staying on topic is your way of...wait for it... deflecting.

Title: Re: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/28/22 at 19:08:37

Pretending you're intellectually superior to the people who just keep being right.

That is dumb.

Title: Re: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/28/22 at 21:09:38


233C3A3D20271626162E3C307B490 wrote:
Pretending you're intellectually superior to the people who just keep being right.

That is dumb.


Are you pretending to be so dumb that you are unable to answer a thread topic even though you take over the forum with umpteen dozen posts, if not then it's no pretence to say you don't have the intellectual chops to answer a post. And if you can't answer a post, then you troll. Does that sound smart to you?

Title: Re: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/28/22 at 22:03:55

You can start answering questions I post.

Title: Re: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/28/22 at 22:06:49

You believe Trump supporters, on average, are intellectually inferior to the average Biden supporter?

You Believe That?

Title: Re: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/29/22 at 02:59:42


47585E5944437242724A58541F2D0 wrote:
You believe Trump supporters, on average, are intellectually inferior to the average Biden supporter?

You Believe That?


Yes, it's not referring to every Trump voter, just the majority, below is from the link in the first post, this is from...

Recent research by Darren Sherkat, a professor of sociology at Southern Illinois University, demonstrates that America's democracy crisis may be even more intractable than the above evidence suggests. In his recent article "Cognitive Sophistication, Religion, and the Trump Vote,"


The first bit below explains perfectly why Trump does as he does, he knows his audiences and especially those who come to his rallies are a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic. It's why he goes with all the racist tropes, because that's easy for his audience to digest.

Low levels of cognitive sophistication may lead people to embrace simple cognitive shortcuts, like stereotypes and prejudices that were amplified by the Trump campaign. Additionally, the simple linguistic style presented by Trump may have appealed to voters with limited education and cognitive sophistication. Beginning with [T.W.] Adorno's classic study of the authoritarian personality, empirical works have linked low levels of cognitive sophistication with right-wing orientations....

Trump's campaign may also have been more attractive to people with low cognitive sophistication and a preference for low-effort information processing because compared to other candidates Trump's speeches were given at a much lower reading level…. While much of the Trump campaign's rhetoric and orientation may have resonated with the poorly educated and cognitively unsophisticated, those overlapping groups are less likely to register to vote or to turn out in an election.


Overall, the model predicts that almost 73% of respondents who missed all 10 questions would vote for Trump (remember, that is controlling for education and the other factors), while about 51% who were average on the exam are expected to vote for Trump. Only 35% of people who had a perfect score on the exam are predicted to be Trump supporters.

Notably, this very strong, significant effect of verbal ability can be identified within educational groups. While non-college whites certainly turned out more heavily for Trump, the smart ones did not — only 38% of those with perfect scores are expected to go for Trump, and only 46% of non-college graduates who scored a standard deviation above the mean. The same is true for college graduates — low cognition college graduates were more likely to vote for Trump. ...

What is really depressing isn't just the poles of the vocabulary exam, it's the average. The mean and median of the scale is 6 — so half of white Americans missed 4 of the easy vocabulary questions.

Title: Re: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/29/22 at 03:03:03

Of course the incredible irony of the lack of cognitive ability is that if you get the very people Trump is talking to, and he know who he's talking to, are easily goaded into thinking Biden is an idiot, because they are too stupid to do anything other than digest their spoon-feed gobshite from Fox.

Title: Re: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by WebsterMark on 03/29/22 at 06:42:14


7B697D7E696F6D080 wrote:
Of course the incredible irony of the lack of cognitive ability is that if you get the very people Trump is talking to, and he know who he's talking to, are easily goaded into thinking Biden is an idiot, because they are too stupid to do anything other than digest their spoon-feed gobshite from Fox.


Biden is a cognitively impaired elderly man which by definition, makes him whatever sanitized definition we're using for 'idiot' these days. No one has ever lauded Biden for his intelligence even when he was a much younger man. There's a famous old news report of Biden thinking he was putting a man in his place for challenging his credentials for running for office and Biden launches into an "I'm smarter than you" routine where he tells lie after lie ending with he finished at the top of his class. I can't find the clip quickly and I'm out of town for work and need to be somewhere but I'll bet a smart man like yourself can find it and perhaps use that ultra high IQ you're so proud of to perhaps give some serious thought to answering this question. Did Biden do what you accuse Trump of doing which is  to rise to the top while not being particularly smart from an IQ test point of view?

Title: Re: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by Serowbot on 03/29/22 at 08:56:23

He has a very big brain and knows lots of big words and went to a very prestigious school and he knows more than the experts about everything.

Title: Re: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/29/22 at 09:09:54

Based on the Results of The Experts, I'd be willing to expect a brain damaged third grader to be smarter than The Experts.

Title: Re: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by MnSpring on 03/29/22 at 18:28:54


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Title: Re: It's official! Trump voter are not very smart.
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/29/22 at 18:57:19


524D4B4C51566757675F4D410A380 wrote:
Based on the Results of The Experts, I'd be willing to expect a brain damaged third grader to be smarter than The Experts.


@JoG, that is the comment of a non brain damaged third grader.

@Mn, once again thanks for proving the thread premise perfectly.

Even the GOP supporters who are not in the cognitively impaired column, obviously consider those their brethren who post here to be as thick as two planks.

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