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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 03/18/22 at 10:02:04

Title: This guy has been correct before
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/18/22 at 10:02:04

https://thesaker.is/snapshot/

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by MnSpring on 03/19/22 at 11:24:41

"...Putin has said, over and over, that Russia could not allow hostile military forces on its border any more than the US would allow Chinese military bases in Mexico and China or missile forces in Cuba. Washington kept pushing. Russia said, no more. In short, America brought on the war. ..."

Very interesting view.

Wonder what the rest of the World,
really though about the,
'Cuban Missile Crisis' ?

Or the, "... 1,500 invaders (Bay Of Pigs)were badly outnumbered by Castro’s troops...".

Did the,
"...coalition uniting the world's leading Western powers and select allies launched a bombing campaign against Libya..."
have anything to do with Russia/Ukraine ?

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/19/22 at 18:56:38

You Do understand that being mentally able to see the possibility of such an argument means you want Russia to rule the world, right?

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by Serowbot on 03/20/22 at 08:36:27

1734092A2833343D5A0 wrote:

This is an interesting argument, because Putin is in effect moving his border closer to NATO countries.
Once he takes Ukraine, Moldova is next.

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/20/22 at 08:58:20

If it's NATO on your border because they are coming to you
Or
You go where they are headed
Which would you choose?

All the hand wringing could end with tangible assurance they will stop building forces up.

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by Serowbot on 03/20/22 at 16:00:18

There are four countries that agree with you.
How's it feel to side with Russia, N Korea, and Syria?
That puts you to the right of Cuba, China, and Venezuela...
Mesh those three countries together and take a look at the America the Right aspires to... a real Trumpian love fest
The deep Right keeps strange bedfellows... :-?

"A handful of rogue nations have sensationally sided with Russia during a UN vote "deploring" Russia's "aggression against Ukraine", which also called for the immediate withdrawal of its forces.

The only nations to vote in support of Vladimir Putin were Belarus, North Korea, Eritrea and Syria, with long-term Russian allies Cuba and Venezuela joining China and 32 others in abstaining.

Meanwhile, 141 of the 193 member states voted in favour of the resolution."

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/20/22 at 19:21:00

I'm independent. Not SIDING with anyone.

When I was trying to get you to see the bullshit about covid and eventually shown to have been correct, I was not Siding with anyone.
I'm comfortable with my assessment of the situation.
I'm comfortable that the facts ,analyzed without some twisted sense of social justice biasing that analysis supporting my position.

Putin told everyone
Stop pushing at me
Just like Gadaffi told what the UN,you take me out and Europe will be over run with immigrants.

Seeing why something happens doesn't mean I want it to.

But Putin warned the world, over and over, that he wasn't going to sit and watch it come.

But, he is the aggressor?

You back me in a corner and make me feel insecure and cry when I smash your nose?

Phhht

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by MnSpring on 03/21/22 at 09:26:43

With the leaders of Canada and Mexico being well known Socialists.
Mexico is more likely to turn into hard core Communists.

So when Mexico turns complete Communist.
Will the US just say OK ?
Or will other things happen ?

Will a cease fire between Russia/Ukraine contain a NATO thing ?

“…NATO on your border,
because they are coming to you
Or
You go where they are headed …”

Are two completely different things.

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by Hiko on 03/21/22 at 20:34:26

Putin is a totalitarian dictator who has been in power for decades
He even changed the laws of Russia so he could stay in power longer
History is full of people like him especially Russia
Putin is not frightened of being invaded by his neighbours he knows that wont happen . He is frightened of his neighbours enjoying democracy and showing an example to his own people and them rising up against him.
Ukrainians rermember what Stalin did to them
Starved and killed millions of them to death in the thirties
They wont forget this either Bombing hospitals etc does not win hearts and minds
Appeasing people like him never works Hitler anyone?

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/21/22 at 22:11:20

So you're just Not Willing to accept that he has been telling everyone for years that if they continue to approach Russia's border that one day he would be forced to take action? Did he Not mass forces on the Ukrainian border quite a while before actually invading? If NATO and the rest of the world didn't want him to take action, why did they not talk with him? Why did they not Stop doing what he said would end in war if they kept pushing?
No, I'm not saying he's Santa Clause. He Is a hard,murderous man. He is Also the Leader of Russia, TASKED WITH THE DUTY TO PROTECT RUSSIA.

Ukraine is not some Sainted place. That guy is a frikkin fruitcake.
You need to understand reality. It's NOT rainbows and unicorn farts.
Don't allow the media to create your attitude.
If you're looking for the Good Guy, not happening. But the difference is, Putin has been pushed into a corner.
Like Putin or not
That
Is how it is.

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/21/22 at 22:16:56

Putin is not frightened of being invaded by his neighbours he knows that wont happen .

Nobody said he was. Not YET.
But allow that neighbor to be annexed by NATO,then he has a whole different set of problems.

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by Hiko on 03/22/22 at 00:21:29

Nato does not annexe any country Countries ask Nato if they can become a member for their protection
Finland and Sweden are considering that right now after seeing what Putin is doing to Ukraine
Great move Vlad
Ukraine has wanted to join Nato for years Nato has resisted for several reasons. Putin has delusions of the old Russian empire with him as the new Czar Putin believes that Ukraine still belongs to his fantasy empire. There was another guy just like him 80 years ago
He should remember that the Russian east belonged to China and hope that Xi doesnt come calling.
What sort of talking do you think Vladimir would listen to?
Putin is showing the world what he is if they didnt know already
This will not end well for anyone

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/22/22 at 08:47:46

Nato does not annexe any country.

A distinction with no difference. I don't need a semantics lesson.

You say
Countries ask to join, For Their Protection.

Did you think I don't know that?

Are you unable to see how NATO countries have increased ,moving ever closer to Russia? Just because YOU see NATO as something that You call good, that does not mean whoever is tasked with preserving and maintaining Russia as a strong country Sees them the same way.

HE TOLD THE WORLD TO STOP PUSHING.

But,Nooo.

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by Serowbot on 03/22/22 at 08:56:37

You're working awfully hard to defend Putin.

He's the aggressor, it's his troops that are invading another country. Ukraine did not attack Russia.
It's Ukraine civilians that are dying.
Get your head straight man.

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/22/22 at 10:59:13

Look,bot,you back someone in a corner while they are telling you
Don't back me in the corner and call him the aggressor for bustin your chops,no, that is on you. I'm not his buddy. But, when you are watching a game and a call is made that is gonna hurt your teams chances of winning, can you accept it as the truth? You seem awfully determined to make Ukraine seem like they have done nothing to antagonize their Neighbor Russia.

Address the problem. Look at the map. Add up the territory that NATO has.

Do you Seriously Not see how NATO is threatening to Russia? Just because YOU see NATO as a good guy does not mean he does.

I'm not in favor of the invasion. But I can understand why he did it.

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by MnSpring on 03/22/22 at 14:13:39

27383E3924231222122A38347F4D0 wrote:

I'm not in favor of the invasion. But I can understand why he did it.

Don't you know,
Just because you understand something,
It means you support it !!!!!

3620372A32272A31450 wrote:

You're working awfully hard to defend Putin...

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by Serowbot on 03/22/22 at 15:18:18

5C4345425F5869596951434F04360 wrote:

Do you Seriously Not see how NATO is threatening to Russia? Just because YOU see NATO as a good guy does not mean he does.

NATO is a defensive alliance. It has never been an aggressor.
How can anyone be threatened by nonaggression?

Putin is not threatened,... he wants to restore the old Soviet Union. Period.

Russia is a gas station with nukes.
Putin is a little man with a big stick.

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/22/22 at 18:01:16

https://100percentfedup.com/breaking-zelensky-reveals-that-biden-intentionally-provoked-putin-in-to-invading-ukraine-in-shocking-interview/

Title: Re: This guy has been correct before
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/22/22 at 22:28:41

Why do you pretend Ukraine is some sainted thing?

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/candace-owens-punks-the-new-york-times-and-its-glorious/

The corruption was a topic,, but now, notsomuch, eh?