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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 02/17/22 at 16:46:46

Title: Hmm,,Whodaguessed?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/17/22 at 16:46:46

Israeli study: Natural immunity gives better protection ...
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/312637
Aug 29, 2021 · Natural immunity that develops after SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably better protection against the "Delta variant" than does two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, an Israeli study...

Author: Arutz Sheva Staff
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Dec 14, 2021 · A huge Israeli study shows natural Covid immunity is far superior to the vaccine-generated kind By Alex Berenson | December 14, 2021 mRNA vaccine protection from Covid is far weaker than natural immunity and declines very fast, according to a new study of almost 6 million people in Israel.

Israeli Study Shows How COVID-19 Immunity Wanes …
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Nov 09, 2021 · Israeli Study Shows How COVID-19 Immunity Wanes over Time. Posted on November 9th, 2021 by Dr. Francis Collins. Credit: bbernard/Shutterstock. The winter holidays are approaching, and among the many things to be grateful for this year is that nearly 200 million Americans …

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Study: COVID recovery gave Israelis longer-lasting …
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Feb 06, 2022 · (Yonatan Sindel/Flash90) Natural immunity from contracting coronavirus provided Israelis with longer-lasting protection against the Delta variant than two shots of the Pfizer vaccine given early...

New Study Shows Natural Immunity to COVID Has …
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Feb 16, 2022 · New Study Shows Natural Immunity to COVID Has Enduring Strength. February 16, 2022 () – It’s a matter of quality, not quantityThat’s the gist of a new Israeli study that shows that unvaccinated people with a prior SARS-CoV-2 infection create antibodies that are more effective in the long …

Massive Israeli Study Comes to Bombshell Conclusion …
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Aug 30, 2021 · A new study out of Israel found the natural immune protection developed after a COVID-19 infection does “considerably” more to ward off the delta variant than two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. The study found those who were once infected with COVID-19 were less likely to get the delta …

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Jul 15, 2021 · Israel National News reports that this data was presented to the Israeli Health Ministry and yielded the following breakdown of breakthrough

Title: Re: Hmm,,Whodaguessed?
Post by Eegore on 02/17/22 at 17:10:37


 A lot of people guessed.

 Now there is actual real evidence that supports the guess.  Anyone can predict something and then use the work of other people to prove how right they were.


Title: Re: Hmm,,Whodaguessed?
Post by MnSpring on 02/17/22 at 18:23:42


09292B233E294C0 wrote:
 A lot of people guessed. ..."

I believe it was the Fauci 'handlers' that were guessing,
and spreading fear for personal gain.





Title: Re: Hmm,,Whodaguessed?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/17/22 at 20:04:51


7656545C4156330 wrote:
 A lot of people guessed.

 Now there is actual real evidence that supports the guess.  Anyone can predict something and then use the work of other people to prove how right they were.


Ohh??
So, when I brought
Natural Immunity up and you
Popped the Wrinkles out of your
Protect the Narrative cape
And TOLD ME about
The Sighunce
And how natcherly existing immunity died off faster


You agree Now
You were full of schit?

Title: Re: Hmm,,Whodaguessed?
Post by Eegore on 02/18/22 at 06:08:37

"You agree Now
You were full of schit
?"

 I never said vaccines would be more effective, I said they haven't been shown to kill thousands, or give 2000 kids a day heart attacks.  Its called using evidence not opinions, also you ignore this is variant stats that require two previous infections to gain the immunity level and not all C-19.  This very study You reference does say "natcherly" existing immunity dies off faster.  It literally says what I told you.  You were mixing deaths with infections as if nobody will notice that "Covid deaths" are different than "Covid infections".

 I was indicating, correctly, that antibodies drop off after one infection, prior to multiple variants causing multi-stage infections over time.  I'm not in the habit of taking guesses and acting like they are fact.  Natural immunity has always been more effective than vaccines, which is why we get boosters.  I'd break it down but you won't even read the information You present, let alone look at anything I do.  



 What do you think about the section where they show that people that had SARS-CoV-2 and were given a single-dose of the BNT162b2 vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant?  

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.04.21267114v1.full.pdf


 When we were in China and I initially sent a message we should be taking strong sanitary precautions, like cleaning off hands/gas pump handles etc. that was because the Evidence at the time indicated a very easily spread contact infection.

 As more Evidence was presented it became clear that this is not necessary.  So was I full of $h!t?  Or did I use Evidence to formulate my opinion and change it as Evidence presented new information?


 When you though tampons were in Men's restrooms for Men who identify as Women, but then learned they were for Women that identify as Men, were you full of $h!t?  Or did you just get more clarifying information?


 

Title: Re: Hmm,,Whodaguessed?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/18/22 at 09:02:52

Point made..

And I don't think
Identifying
As something you aren't
Is something a society should do.


Title: Re: Hmm,,Whodaguessed?
Post by Serowbot on 02/18/22 at 09:19:41

So go out and get Covid.
Probably a thousand times more likely to die than just getting a vaccine shot but if you survive, you may be more protected.

Kinda' like throwing rocks at your windows to see if they can survive being hit by a rock

Title: Re: Hmm,,Whodaguessed?
Post by Eegore on 02/18/22 at 19:56:08


And I don't think
Identifying
As something you aren't
Is something a society should do.



 I am pretty indifferent to the idea unless it causes harm, like bathroom assaults.  So by clarifying the accuracy of why tampons are in those bathrooms it doesn't mean I am supporting gender identification.  Just like clarifying that certain vaccine numbers are unrealistic doesn't mean I support everything vaccine related.

Title: Re: Hmm,,Whodaguessed?
Post by MnSpring on 02/19/22 at 17:53:06


5474767E6374110 wrote:
"... unless it causes harm,
like bathroom assaults.  ..."

When would a bathroom,
     ASSAULT,
Not be harmful ?

Title: Re: Hmm,,Whodaguessed?
Post by Eegore on 02/19/22 at 22:10:59

"When would a bathroom,
    ASSAULT,
Not be harmful ?
"

 I think it would always be harmful.  I did not imply in any way that any type of assault in any location would not be harmful.

 I am indifferent if a human engages in any non-harmful activity.  Specific to this topic with the exemption of all other known topics, I am indifferent to the idea of gender identification.  Unless that gender identification is for the implicit means of enacting a harmful act upon another human.  

 As a hypothetical situation, specific to this topic with the exemption of all other known topics, I chose to use an assault that happen within the confines of a bathroom.  This is meant to only provide an example of a harmful act among any multitude of harmful acts that any human can enact upon another.  By providing this example I have in no way presented a situation where any assault on any human at any point in time at any location would not be considered harmful.

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