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Title: My Jan 6th celebration Post by WebsterMark on 01/06/22 at 05:07:43 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9MiS9tn_r4 |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by MnSpring on 01/07/22 at 06:49:08 Already their has been much more coverage about 1/6 on the major broadcast, 'news' stations. (And over and over and over) Then their ever was on the failure of Obama and Clinton, to act, thus ALLOWING US Citizens to be Butchered/KILLED. Benghazi was covered up to protect two people. 1/6 is simply used to raise the temperature of the water, Freedom is in. |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Serowbot on 01/07/22 at 11:18:14 11320F2C2E35323B5C0 wrote:
So consistent... it's amazing 11320F2C2E35323B5C0 wrote:
So cryptic I have no idea what you're talking about |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by WebsterMark on 01/07/22 at 11:27:51 Perhaps the only person in DC more worthless that Grandpa Puddinhead would be his worthless VP. Dec 7th, 9/11 will forever be etched in everyone’s memory. To even think you have the perspective to take a partisan hyped riot and include it among those days is incomprehensible. There’s a lot of reasons that woman needs to fade away into the depths of history, but that takes the cake. |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by MnSpring on 01/07/22 at 12:04:15 6670677A62777A61150 wrote:
I do believe it has been said many times already. If you put a Frog in a pan of, hot, water, they will immediately jump out. If you put a frog in a pan of, cold, water, then very slowly raise the heat, you will kill that frog. Does 'Slippery Slope', needs explaining ? |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Eegore on 01/07/22 at 12:17:41 The boiling water of Freedom has been warming up so slow the frog died of old age. |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by MnSpring on 01/07/22 at 13:19:08 7555575F4255300 wrote:
Do you believe, the removal of Freedom's, is OK, as long as it is done, slowly ? |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Serowbot on 01/07/22 at 14:13:10 Do you believe autocracy is freedom, or do you think people's votes should count? |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/07/22 at 14:48:50 08282A223F284D0 wrote:
Unlike the water of tyranny, which is heating up at an alarming rate. We've seen the election stolen, the gains made in the economy destroyed, the border kicked wide open Aaand the same people hyperventilating in hysterical fear about The Rona, perfectly happy with illegals flooding in Untested, unvaccinated. You people are paying for gas,too. Seriously? You don't know why it's up? |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Eegore on 01/07/22 at 22:17:24 Do you believe, the removal of Freedom's, is OK, as long as it is done, slowly ? Sure. That is what I meant when I said the frog died. I didn't mean to say that the impending removal of Freedom has been foretold since it's inception and not fulfilled. I did not mean to say something that my actual words would actually convey. I instead meant I think it's ok to remove Freedom and that specifically a reduced rate of removal is the only acceptable means of doing it. |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/07/22 at 22:19:58 instead meant I think it's ok to remove Freedom So, as long as tyranny is brought on slowly, it's okay? |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Eegore on 01/07/22 at 22:27:39 "So, as long as tyranny is brought on slowly, it's okay?" Yes. When I said the Frog has died, I did not mean anything that would relate to the words I used. I meant something totally different than what the words I used would convey. Like if I say "None of those predictions have come true" I really meant Freedom should die. |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/08/22 at 03:36:33 instead meant I think it's ok to remove Freedom and that specifically a reduced rate of removal is the only acceptable means of doing it. Back to top That explains a lot. |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by TZK on 01/08/22 at 10:44:54 2A353334292E1F2F1F27353972400 wrote:
Unlike the water of tyranny, which is heating up at an alarming rate. We've seen the election stolen, the gains made in the economy destroyed, the border kicked wide open Aaand the same people hyperventilating in hysterical fear about The Rona, perfectly happy with illegals flooding in Untested, unvaccinated. You people are paying for gas,too. Seriously? You don't know why it's up? [/quote] Wow!! I'm truly impressed by how much false information you managed to pack into just a couple of sentences. Great job! |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Serowbot on 01/08/22 at 11:29:26 ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by WebsterMark on 01/08/22 at 11:57:19 5B55443C3D3E0F0 wrote:
Unlike the water of tyranny, which is heating up at an alarming rate. We've seen the election stolen, the gains made in the economy destroyed, the border kicked wide open Aaand the same people hyperventilating in hysterical fear about The Rona, perfectly happy with illegals flooding in Untested, unvaccinated. You people are paying for gas,too. Seriously? You don't know why it's up? [/quote] Wow!! I'm truly impressed by how much false information you managed to pack into just a couple of sentences. Great job![/quote] We've seen the election stolen, the gains made in the economy destroyed, the border kicked wide open Aaand the same people hyperventilating in hysterical fear about The Rona, perfectly happy with illegals flooding in If by election stolen, you mean state legislatures changing election laws that made it impossible to track down any shenanigans and strategies to allow those who otherwise would never have voted to cast a vote for Grandpa Puddinhead, then everything JOG said was accurate. |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/08/22 at 12:58:46 626C7D050407360 wrote:
Unlike the water of tyranny, which is heating up at an alarming rate. We've seen the election stolen, the gains made in the economy destroyed, the border kicked wide open Aaand the same people hyperventilating in hysterical fear about The Rona, perfectly happy with illegals flooding in Untested, unvaccinated. You people are paying for gas,too. Seriously? You don't know why it's up? [/quote] Wow!! I'm truly impressed by how much false information you managed to pack into just a couple of sentences. Great job![/quote] That You believe what I call bullshit doesn't make me wrong. We WERE energy independent. Would you deny that? The border was More secure before Biden took over. Would you deny that? Gas went up after Biden took over. Biden went to opec and asked them to increase production. Would you deny that? You can deny the election was stolen, but only because the courts have made getting the proof impossible to get. It's obvious to any honest person. So, dismiss my post. Smugly sneer at it. That doesn't mean you are correct. Let's Go, Brandon! Puddin Brain is as sharp as a Marble! He AGREED with the guy And REPEATED IT!! My frikkin GAWD,what an embarrassment. That stumbling, mumbling moron got More Votes than Anyone,, EVER?? Phhht! |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Eegore on 01/08/22 at 13:37:08 "That explains a lot." Explains either people do not read what is typed or I can't convey accurately that I am being sarcastic. When I say "The Frog died" I really mean something completely different. I obviously do not mean what my actual words would convey. Why use the words I typed to figure out what I mean? Just make up new words. |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/08/22 at 14:40:42 Total fail on your alleged sarcasm. I'm not feeling guilty about the words. Copy and paste works pretty good. |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Eegore on 01/08/22 at 15:35:51 "I'm not feeling guilty about the words. Copy and paste works pretty good." Unless you are stating I SAID something, repeatedly, and I ask you to show me where. Then all the sudden copy and paste isn't applicable. You really think when I said a proverbial Frog died, I meant I think Freedom should die? How do those even come close to being the same thing? I said I don't like red gas tanks on the Savage, that must mean I think motorcycles should be outlawed. As long as people don't use the words I type and instead do things like claim I SAID something without evidence, or do things like Bottom line is now we are literally just altering sentences to change them to mean other things. So it's easier to just agree to any question because whatever I type will just be altered. |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by MnSpring on 01/08/22 at 17:17:56 7C5C5E564B5C390 wrote:
The Frog, in that situation, equaled Freedom. "... or do things like I do believe the strike-through, was two negative words, in one sentence. https://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-double-negatives.html |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by TZK on 01/08/22 at 17:57:45 [/quote] That You believe what I call bullshit doesn't make me wrong. We WERE energy independent. Would you deny that? The border was More secure before Biden took over. Would you deny that? Gas went up after Biden took over. Biden went to opec and asked them to increase production. Would you deny that? You can deny the election was stolen, but only because the courts have made getting the proof impossible to get. It's obvious to any honest person. [/quote] Keep the posts coming! This is hilarious!! I especially love the part about the courts making it impossible to prove the election was stolen ;D |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Billynoneck on 01/08/22 at 18:11:02 At this point it's not a discussion about the facts but an argument about beliefs with both sides knowing they are right and that the other side can't see the forest for the trees |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/08/22 at 18:50:48 4846572F2E2D1C0 wrote: That You believe what I call bullshit doesn't make me wrong. We WERE energy independent. Would you deny that? The border was More secure before Biden took over. Would you deny that? Gas went up after Biden took over. Biden went to opec and asked them to increase production. Would you deny that? You can deny the election was stolen, but only because the courts have made getting the proof impossible to get. It's obvious to any honest person. [/quote] Keep the posts coming! This is hilarious!! I especially love the part about the courts making it impossible to prove the election was stolen ;D [/quote] Answer the questions then |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Billynoneck on 01/08/22 at 20:28:08 [/quote] That You believe what I call bullshit doesn't make me wrong. and the reverse is also true [/quote] My frikkin GAWD,what an embarrassment. That stumbling, mumbling moron got More Votes than Anyone,, EVER?? That just shows how much the people wanted Trump out, Biden didnt win because He was the right man for the job, he won because he wasnt Trump |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by MnSpring on 01/08/22 at 20:46:40 454E4B4B5E49484942444C270 wrote: Same was Said about Trump, cause he wasn't Clinton. (Yet the real reason, Mush for Brains won, was Fraud) Gonna answer JOG's questions ? |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Billynoneck on 01/08/22 at 23:13:38 6A497457554E4940270 wrote:
Same was Said about Trump, cause he wasn't Clinton. (Yet the real reason, Mush for Brains won, was Fraud) I agree, I think the only reason Trump won was because he wasn't Clinton Gonna answer JOG's questions ? [/quote] I wasn't planning to as it seems I completely disagree with the majority of his views, and nothing I say will change his mind or his views my point is not to get into an argument over who is right and wrong because its obvious that nothing I can say will change your view and beliefs and likewise I'm pretty sure there is nothing you or JOG can say to change mine so I see no point in discussing the "facts" I'm simply pointing out as much as one side "knows" they are right and that the outer side is "wrong" those people on the other side feel just as strongly |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Eegore on 01/09/22 at 02:04:23 I do believe the strike-through, was two negative words, in one sentence. It was but it also completely altered the context to say the opposite. Not all sentences with two negatives should have both removed. "Don't" in my sentence applies to the term delusion, and "not" applies to politics and money. When you remove BOTH the words "don't" and "not" in that specific sentence you make that sentence mean the opposite because you are not correcting a double negative of the same terms. So you admit: 'I This re-writes it to say: I have some delusion that politics and money are involved in all this. This is fundamentally incorrect: I do NOT have some delusion. That delusion being that money and politics are NOT involved. It's not the best sentence structure, I admit that, but the edit changes it to say the opposite of what I actually said. Using an example from your reference: You can't see no one in this crowd. + You = You see one in this crowd. But you don't. You don't see one. |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Eegore on 01/09/22 at 02:17:23 "my point is not to get into an argument over who is right and wrong because its obvious that nothing I can say will change your view and beliefs and likewise I'm pretty sure there is nothing you or JOG can say to change mine so I see no point in discussing the "facts" I'm simply pointing out as much as one side "knows" they are right and that the outer side is "wrong" those people on the other side feel just as strongly" Good luck with this. I think the same thing, both sides have strong opinions, both have good people and bad. I for one could care less about changing anyone's mind, most of my discussions here are trying to clarify that acknowledging some information is incorrect is not equal to saying I support the opposition. It goes like this a lot: Member: Trump says 1+1 is 3. Eegore: 1+1 is not 3, it is 2. Here are the references using Principia Mathematica. Trump is wrong on this one statement. https://blog.plover.com/math/PM.html https://www.storyofmathematics.com/20th_russell.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principia_Mathematica Member: So you hate Trump and think Biden is God? Eegore: No I think 1+1=2 and that the reference of Trump saying 1+1=3 is wrong. Did you look at the references? Member: Prove Biden didn't cause increased gas prices! |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Billynoneck on 01/09/22 at 02:34:47 I had to laugh at that because I couldn't have put it better if I tried and then there is the "proof" that you provide that can be disproven for any number of reasons like, "a guy on the internet said that's a lie" I do wonder how much the internet is to blame with a lot of the older folks not understanding how algorithms work and not understanding just how easy it is to fall into a complete echo chamber online and just not notice |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by WebsterMark on 01/09/22 at 07:09:37 7B707575607776777C7A72190 wrote:
And you fit right in! Welcome, I’ll order a beer for you. What are you having? Wait, let me guess. A citrus flavored craft IPA brewed by a carbon neutral, environmentally friendly, local brewer with full profit sharing for his employees and a rescue dog that roams the plant that this batch was named after. |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Serowbot on 01/09/22 at 09:16:39 6A585F4E49584F705C4F563D0 wrote:
Ooooh, yum!... ;D |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by MnSpring on 01/09/22 at 09:59:28 7454565E4354310 wrote:
WOW, and you think, 'Red Car/Bank Robbery', Is bad ????? |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by MnSpring on 01/09/22 at 10:03:27 42494C4C594E4F4E45434B200 wrote:
Glad yo made yo position Clear to all. |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Serowbot on 01/09/22 at 10:35:27 666D68687D6A6B6A61676F040 wrote:
100% |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Billynoneck on 01/09/22 at 10:42:16 1D2F28393E2F38072B38214A0 wrote:
And you fit right in! Welcome, I’ll order a beer for you. What are you having? Wait, let me guess. A citrus flavored craft IPA brewed by a carbon neutral, environmentally friendly, local brewer with full profit sharing for his employees and a rescue dog that roams the plant that this batch was named after.[/quote] Ill take a macallan 18 if its all the same to you |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Billynoneck on 01/09/22 at 10:49:17 40635E7D7F64636A0D0 wrote:
Glad yo made yo position Clear to all. [/quote] Yes my position is I have no intent in trying to have a discussion with someone that is so blinded by their views and what they have been told to be true that they refuse to listen to any other views. I'm just trying to point out some base facts that apparently most don't understand or want to understand |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by WebsterMark on 01/09/22 at 11:15:56 7F697E637B6E63780C0 wrote:
Ooooh, yum!... ;D[/quote] Duh…..I ordered yours already. |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Serowbot on 01/09/22 at 12:05:15 Coopers Extra Stout. |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Eegore on 01/09/22 at 14:21:17 "WOW, and you think, 'Red Car/Bank Robbery', Is bad ????? " Yes. For the reason I stated and specifically that reason and no other reason known reason. No matter how many times you ask the answer will be the same. The Red Car analogy is a poor example for people to relate to or utilize to change minds. I am not trying to change anyone's mind. When I point out the math on a topic is wrong, in most cases, it is treated like I disagree with the entirety of all content ever posted by that person. When I am really just saying that a specific portion doesn't add up. When I say Trump was wrong when he said 1+1=2 that doesn't mean I voted for Hillary. Typically the response to my assessment on 1+1=2 is not looking at the references, it is ignoring them, and then finding something else to complain about. |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Eegore on 01/09/22 at 14:35:05 "I do wonder how much the internet is to blame with a lot of the older folks not understanding how algorithms work and not understanding just how easy it is to fall into a complete echo chamber online and just not notice" There is a ton of information regarding this. Attributed primarily to the Digital Literacy Gap. One thing is that we can see almost every "like" "share" copy/paste etc. of almost every action on the internet so it gets easier to tell who is accepting the most information. Averaging out the last 5 years of data regarding shares, likes etc. and things like copy/paste to forums like this the average age for accepting and sharing blatantly false information is 62. By blatantly false I mean information that is admitted and shown to be false by the people that fabricated it. The latest whistleblower content proved 12 people are responsible for 73% of all anti-vaccine content on Facebook. Again, 73% of vaccine content will be posted by these people using AI spambot tech to fabricate "information". Logistic and count components of negative binomial logit hurdle predicting counter-media content sharing on Facebook indicates millions and millions of data-points showing this. Of course most false content news-based were shared by Title of the content and not by clicking the actual link. Talking to my younger cousins, and looking at meta-data it is pretty clear most people, 30 or younger tend to not believe most everything online, or at least more skeptical of the things they see. In my cousins case they, just for fun, make up posts, create websites and fill them with completely untrue garbage to get people riled up. It's their version of egging a house. Most people 30 and up just outgrow this. "older users skewed the findings: 11 percent of users older than 65 shared a hoax, while just 3 percent of users 18 to 29 did. Facebook users ages 65 and older shared more than twice as many fake news articles than the next-oldest age group of 45 to 65, and nearly seven times as many fake news articles as the youngest age group (18 to 29). https://www.statista.com/topics/3251/fake-news/#dossierKeyfigures https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/9/18174631/old-people-fake-news-facebook-share-nyu-princeton There are of course outliers, such as SARS information where the demographic is reversed. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/technology/young-people-more-likely-to-believe-virus-misinformation-study-says.html |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by MnSpring on 01/10/22 at 08:50:31 6141434B5641240 wrote:
So, a DFI, robs a bank, the DFI used a Red Car, Banning Red Cars, will stop all Bank Robberies. Is, a poor analogy to: A DFI shoots up something, the DFI used a certain Model Firearm, Banning that Model of Firearm, will stop all DFI shootings. Apparently, in some peoples world, it is good. In some others, it is bad. Would that POV, depend on, a Political position ? |
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Title: Re: My Jan 6th celebration Post by Eegore on 01/10/22 at 09:02:01 Would that POV, depend on, a Political position ? Not in my experience. We have had this discussion multiple times already. When we had to get signatures to recall politicians that imposed gun-control measures we learned the Red Car style analogies didn't get signatures. Most people (People being humans we interacted with specific to gun-control measures) responded to different strategies as they simply thought banning Red Cars was just a ploy to make things sound worse than they are. "Red cars aren't designed to kill people" is the general response, and the other most common was "Get to the point". This was because nobody can relate to banning Red Cars. It's just something everybody knows will not happen. So my "poor argument" response is based on altering the viewpoint of people and only that with the exclusion of all other statements, assessments, opinions etc. of any kind. Just on that one thing - changing minds - in exclusivity, it is a poor argument. However this most likely won't sink in and we will still go over how I think the Red Car analogy is a poor argument for every type of gun control topic ever, instead of just accepting I mean it only if you want to change the general public's mind on any specific gun control measure. |
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