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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 11/06/21 at 17:20:02

Title: If you don't understand the difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/06/21 at 17:20:02

Maybe this will help. People were strung up because they Forced people to be Guinea e.

If you don't think taking the things NECESSARY FOR LIFE away from people is coercion, you can't be helped.

http://www.cirp.org/library/ethics/nuremberg/

Maybe look up

VOLUNTARY...

Anything else is unethical..
Ohh,,maybe you don't relate to ethics..

Read,, struggle with that painful inability to feel empathy.

Title: Re: If you don't understand the difference
Post by Eegore on 11/06/21 at 22:01:25

Who hasn't agreed that there is coercion?

Also Nuremberg would more readily apply to the people the vaccines were tested on during development. None of them were forced. If anything the real target of this should be if the "emergency use authorization" allowed by law as long as it's enacted by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

But let's not use US laws to fight and change US laws, lets use good ol' Nuremberg since that will get us to the same nowhere it has always taken us. If anything we could revoke emergency use authorization and let a disease just take it's course and hope we live. Or limit the US Government's ability to initiate mandates upon employers.

There is coercion, and the Nuremberg Code won't help stop that because saying we are guinea pigs is not equal to actually being guinea pigs.

Title: Re: If you don't understand the difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/07/21 at 00:38:13

I think your reading comprehension skills are lacking.

Title: Re: If you don't understand the difference
Post by Eegore on 11/07/21 at 01:38:18

I think the overused Nuremberg argument is grasping at straws.

Select this sentence, leave out that one, restructure it, pretend it's applicable to US law, complain. That's pretty much how it's used these days.

It is a viable ethics guideline, but the application should match what the Code is addressing. If you expect others to look up VOLUNTARY, then maybe try looking up EXPERIMENTAL. Emergency use Authorization does not circumvent testing or approval.

Title: Re: If you don't understand the difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/07/21 at 03:13:17

Emergency use is because it Not Adequately Tested
That makes it experimental.
You ARE the test
And it's The most damaging and deadly vaccine ever
ever
And not only that

The people who take it have been getting covid and they die too.
Shove this Fukkin lie
I'm not taking it

Title: Re: If you don't understand the difference
Post by Eegore on 11/07/21 at 07:50:29

"Emergency use is because it Not Adequately Tested
That makes it experimental."

This is incorrect. The clinical trial process is the same but the monetary end of the red-tape is reduced or removed. You don't like how it is implemented, which is fine, but disliking something doesn't change facts.

"The people who take it have been getting covid and they die too."

Vaccines aren't a cure, unlike like the "proven cure" you claim hydroxychloroquine is. Yet people who take hydroxychloroquine get Covid and die too.

When people in a demographic, lets say 50-70 years of age are evaluated for comorbidity and Covid related deaths the majority of the dead haven't been vaccinated.

Of course this is wrong, and will remain that way as long as you refuse to look at information that isn't saying what you want it to.

"Shove this Fukkin lie
I'm not taking it"

You shouldn't take it if you don't want to.

Title: Re: If you don't understand the difference
Post by Serowbot on 11/07/21 at 08:15:29

If something bad happens,... would you rather it be from your actions or inactions?

A General once said,... In battle, if you don't know what to do,... do SOMETHING.

Vax, mask, distance,.. are actions.
Doing nothing is victim-hood.
That's not you, JoG.

How has inaction become a Right-Wing ideal?...

Title: Re: If you don't understand the difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/07/21 at 09:15:37

You don't understand. Once the Action has demonstrated that IT is a bad idea, choosing to not be a part of it Is my action.
Tossing a drowning man an anchor IS action.
It's just Not very helpful, nowizzit?

Title: Re: If you don't understand the difference
Post by Serowbot on 11/07/21 at 12:43:16

544B4D4A5750615161594B470C3E0 wrote:

Tossing a drowning man an anchor IS action.
It's just Not very helpful, nowizzit?

Clever... ;D

Geez,... 4 hours trimming my mesquite trees today.
One was stickery.
I'm a human pincushion. :-?

Title: Re: If you don't understand the difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/09/21 at 13:50:15

Bought a house in Midland Texas. There was a rose bush on the West side. Never been All that excited about roses, but There one was, the wifely unit liked it, I decided I would work with it, nurture it, and make it grow. Every TIME I got within five feet of it, I swear it reached out and clawed me. After a year or so I grabbed my shovel and murdered that bloodthirsty thing.
If your mesquites are like the West Texas ones, those thorns will go right through a tire on an18 Wheeler.

I drove trucks in the oil field and there is no end to the bichin and screaming if you get a flat by running into one of those.