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Title: HEK part 2 Post by Eegore on 10/06/21 at 14:11:49 Since the last thread devolved into semantics I figure I could restart and add some things. If one is using religious or similar exemption to receive exceptions for a vaccine mandate specific to a private employer - and is using the fetal cell development reasoning, should they also exempt themselves from other things developed from the same fetal cell source? Such as: Acetaminophen, Albuterol, Aspirin, Ibuprofen, Tylenol, Pepto Bismol, Tums, Lipitor, Senokot, Motrin, Maalox, Ex-Lax, Benadryl, Sudafed, Preparation-H, Claritin, Prilosec, Zoloft. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by Serowbot on 10/06/21 at 16:24:58 Of course not. You know these religious exemptions are not genuine anyway. They are just a means to an end. (pun intended, if you catch it) |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by WebsterMark on 10/06/21 at 16:50:11 If you can pick and choose and distort science to the point you can stand before someone and say men can have babies, I think you can pick and choose and claim religious exemption for fetal cell development whenever you want, for whatever purpose that suits you. In my first example, I said Muhammad Ali successfully was labeled a conscientious objector even though his profession was one that permanently injured people. Of all races and religions. Don’t start using logic now. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by Eegore on 10/06/21 at 21:19:57 I did mean this as a legitimate question. If one is actually not taking the vaccine due to fetal cell research, should they stop all medications that come from it? I would think so. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/21 at 04:21:38 I gave you a legitimate answer. Do you think decisions and actions follow a logical pattern? You clearly have never been in sales. People make emotional decisions and then justify them afterwards using selected data that confirms their original emotional decision. Personally, I’ve never heard of a single person bringing that up until recently. Project veritas has just done a big expose on that topic and how Pfizer was trying to hide that information. All that’s going to do is make those who have decided they’re not going to get the vaccine even more entrenched in their position. Will they apply that same thinking to some of the other drugs you listed Of course not. (Do you think pro-choice people apply the same logic of my body my choice to other political decisions? Of course not. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by Eegore on 10/07/21 at 07:19:46 Do you think decisions and actions follow a logical pattern? You clearly have never been in sales. People make emotional decisions and then justify them afterwards using selected data that confirms their original emotional decision. I agree. Basically the confirmation bias I bring up periodically. The number of people I know that could be debt free, but utilize the behaviors you outline is astounding to me. I was just talking to someone about paying off his mortgage versus keeping it for his "credit score" and "tax breaks". Amazing how people choose comfort over truth or facts. I was just clarifying that I wasn't making a joke out of the content. Lacking religious structure, I can't say for sure how important those standards are. But, from the outside, I would think if fetal cell research applies to one topic it equally applies to all. But I could be wrong, specific to religious application. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/21 at 08:33:46 I am against the death penalty because I came to the conclusion if we shouldn’t allow unborn babies to be killed for convenience sake (which we shouldn’t) then we likewise shouldn’t allow the State to kill certain convicted criminals. I also understand those who are prolife but have no issues executing murderers. The State of Missouri just executed a man this week who beat three people to death with a claw hammer. While I might be against that, I’m not going to take a stand because I understand how and why people see the difference between a guilty murderer and an innocent baby. However, I’m sure it would be easy to find positionsI have where there’s an obvious contradiction between opposite positions on the same issue. For example, I’m very much in favor of free speech and detest the censorship of the right by leftist in power right now but if I had a magic button to push that would eliminate Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram etc. forever from the face of the earth, I’d push it in a heartbeat. I’m aware that’s a contradiction but I’m not changing my position. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by Serowbot on 10/07/21 at 09:13:57 If a religion believes fetal cell research is a sin, it must apply to all products. I don't think a god would pick and choose. Although,... historically they very much do. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/21 at 09:37:27 The practice of practicing religion is striving for perfection knowing full well it’s never attainable and loaded with contradictions. An atheist never faces the reality of being conflicted in this manner. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by Serowbot on 10/07/21 at 10:12:57 That is absurd in so many ways. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by Eegore on 10/07/21 at 10:21:05 An atheist never faces the reality of being conflicted in this manner. I agree not in that exact manner, but conflicted desires in comparison to value structure is certainly not exclusive to religion. For instance I imagine this same question could be asked of an Atheist that thinks abortion is wrong, that fetal cell research is wrong, based off personal assessment of human life, and still have to decide if he uses Tylenol. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by Serowbot on 10/07/21 at 10:43:05 Contrary to Web's assertion,... I can easily see the moral vagaries dilemma an atheist must navigate, but given an all knowing and all powerful being that dictates your values, should make the gray scale solid black and white. Which is absurd, but such is belief in god. Atheists can only wish morality was so black and white. We must live in the real world. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by MnSpring on 10/07/21 at 12:21:15 2707050D1007620 wrote:
I believe that, a Atheist, (who’s ‘religion’ is, not believing in any ‘religion’) who believes 95 (+/-)% of Abortion, (The killings preformed JUST for Convince sake) is wrong. Would be a number, times 100, that would fit on a Gnat’s Back ! |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by Eegore on 10/07/21 at 12:37:20 "I believe that, a Atheist, (who’s ‘religion’ is, not believing in any ‘religion’) who believes 95 (+/-)% of Abortion, (The killings preformed JUST for Convince sake) is wrong. Would be a number, times 100, that would fit on a Gnat’s Back !" Okay, but do you think people that are religious and don't agree with fetal cell research should also stop using all those other products? |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by MnSpring on 10/07/21 at 13:11:50 48686A627F680D0 wrote:
The same way that Ali was successfully a conscientious objector. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by Eegore on 10/07/21 at 14:29:28 The same way that Ali was successfully a conscientious objector. Makes sense. I assumed religion, like all things is selective enforcement just from my observations. Use this part, ignore that part. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/21 at 16:23:05 6E786F726A7F72691D0 wrote:
It’s a complicated puzzle and you see all of the pieces. Yet. There’s always hope. Or faith I should say. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by MnSpring on 10/07/21 at 17:30:36 Quote:
A-Yep !!!!!!! The EXACT SAME way, ‘enforcement’, was done for 1/6 VS The thousands of events, Of, Riots, Steeling, Destroying, Occupying, occurring in the name of, a Drug Addled Felon. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by Eegore on 10/07/21 at 18:01:02 "A-Yep !!!!!!! The EXACT SAME way, ‘enforcement’, was done for 1/6 VS The thousands of events, Of, Riots, Steeling, Destroying, Occupying, occurring in the name of, a Drug Addled Felon." So religion really doesn't change anything. I guess it's good some places are allowing religious exemption considering it doesn't really have any substantial merit besides being a personal ethics loophole. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by MnSpring on 10/07/21 at 18:22:10 Quote:
Yep, EXACTLY like, the SAME way, ‘enforcement’, was done for 1/6 VS The thousands of events, Of, Riots, Steeling, Destroying, Occupying, occurring in the name of, a Drug Addled Felon. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by Serowbot on 10/08/21 at 08:37:08 Good to know Jesus would approve of how we're handling the 1/6 insurrectionists. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/21 at 03:45:20 There was no insurrection, there was a mass trespassing event based on all the charges. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by MnSpring on 10/09/21 at 07:39:17 [quote]"... the 1/6 insurrectionists[quote] And the UL, DFI, FDS'ing Socalists, have learned well from Sarah Brady. Repeat a LIE, Over and Over, and Over, and Over, and Over, and Over, ... People will believe it is true. |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by Serowbot on 10/09/21 at 08:38:22 5E7D4063617A7D74130 wrote:
The election was stolen, the election was stolen, the election was stolen, the election was stolen, the election was stolen, the election was stolen, the election was stolen,... |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by Serowbot on 10/09/21 at 16:23:43 142621303726310E223128430 wrote:
Mass trespassing... ROTFLMAO!... ;D ;D ;D A Capitol rioter who said he was 'just there to go to the bathroom' was sentenced to 3 months in jail after video appears to show him pushing a cop https://news.yahoo.com/capitol-rioter-said-just-bathroom-192600303.html "Bonsib said his client is a Democrat - though "not politically active" - who accidentally ended up on January 6 grouped with "views he abhors." Reeder's Facebook history prior to January 6 paints a different picture about his views: Reeder wrote about "POS liberals," saying "this time the conservatives will stand their ground and the radicals will die."" |
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Title: Re: HEK part 2 Post by MnSpring on 10/11/21 at 07:37:33 5F495E435B4E43582C0 wrote:
So glad you have finally ,'woke', up, seen the light, and are proclaiming the truth !!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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