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Message started by JED on 09/28/21 at 16:28:46

Title: Replacing Jardine muffler with OEM
Post by JED on 09/28/21 at 16:28:46

Hi,

Generally speaking, does switching to a different muffler necessitate removing and re-jetting the carb?

Asking because the Savage I just bought came with a Jardine exhaust on it. It’s a bit too loud for my quiet neighborhood. I’d like to trade for a factory muffler. I guess I’m going against the norm, higher performance to lower.

I think what I’m asking is, is it possible to swap the muffler and not have to mess with the carburetor?

Thanks

Title: Re: Replacing Jardine muffler with OEM
Post by verslagen1 on 09/28/21 at 20:09:30

If it's not tuned properly, louder doesn't mean higher performance.

I can't say for sure because you haven't told me anything about the bike, but most likely yes, you will need to rejet.

Title: Re: Replacing Jardine muffler with OEM
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/28/21 at 21:09:45

You can get a Dyna muffler for cheap,they have a nice sound, easy to jet. Sometimes kinda challenging to mount.

Title: Re: Replacing Jardine muffler with OEM
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 09/29/21 at 05:33:59

I don’t know how the Jardine muffler mounts, but if it’s like the aftermarket slip-on I have the end piece of the exhaust pipe is removed, removing the possibility of using an OEM muffler again.

Title: Re: Replacing Jardine muffler with OEM
Post by SCS40 on 09/29/21 at 07:15:05

The PO mounted a Dyna can on mine and it sounds great. I think I have a vid posted here somewhere of it.

Title: Re: Replacing Jardine muffler with OEM
Post by JED on 09/29/21 at 08:54:02

Thanks for all the advice. Sorry I don’t have more info on my bike. Bought it used. Already had a few owners so no telling its history. I’m going through all that detective work now. The bike appears to have been fairly well cared for.

It’s probably been re-jetted for the Jardine pipe that the previous owner mounted. I guess I could try quieting it by packing with fiberglass. Anyone here have advice on that? I wonder if carb tuning would follow that. A user named rolavine did this but I don’t think he posts here anymore.

Title: Re: Replacing Jardine muffler with OEM
Post by JED on 09/29/21 at 08:55:59

5747573034040 wrote:

The PO mounted a Dyna can on mine and it sounds great. I think I have a vid posted here somewhere of it.

Thanks - I’ll look for your vid.

Title: Re: Replacing Jardine muffler with OEM
Post by Fast 650 on 09/29/21 at 09:08:01

Another option is the stainless automotive muffler that DragBikeMike is running on his. It is loud in factory form but he has a writeup on how to calm it down to acceptable sound levels pretty easily.

Title: Re: Replacing Jardine muffler with OEM
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/29/21 at 09:31:05

Richass Harley riders buy a bike and have the exhaust upgraded. The take off Dyna mufflers are often just twenty bucks. The mounting style matters. Suzuki uses a rail.

Title: Re: Replacing Jardine muffler with OEM
Post by JED on 09/30/21 at 12:25:34

OP here. Just contacted Jardine and the said there are no options to quiet this pipe. I was hoping there was an insert like a silencer or “db killer”. I suppose I could try and pull the baffle out and rewrap it but it’s got rivets. At this point it may be best to trade it to someone who wants a louder upgrade. It does sound great! But at my age I appreciate the quiet. Maybe I’ll go to the “Marketplace” here and see if anyone wants to trade.

Thanks all!

Title: Re: Replacing Jardine muffler with OEM
Post by JED on 09/30/21 at 13:08:51

5953575D565F5B520C0A0E3E0 wrote:

I don’t know how the Jardine muffler mounts, but if it’s like the aftermarket slip-on I have the end piece of the exhaust pipe is removed, removing the possibility of using an OEM muffler again.

Thanks Gary. Are you talking about this part?

Title: Re: Replacing Jardine muffler with OEM
Post by DragBikeMike on 09/30/21 at 15:30:56

JED, this post gives a blow-by-blow on packing a Mac muffler with ceramic packing material. It looks very similar to your Jardine. I'm sure you can use the same technique.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1606589360

Good luck