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Message started by WebsterMark on 12/11/20 at 15:58:23

Title: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/11/20 at 15:58:23

The thief got away with the loot.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Eegore on 12/11/20 at 16:08:21

 I'm still waiting for evidence of fraud vs evidence of procedural issues.

 PA does have some I think that should be looked into but this throwing out of 7 million votes is nonsense an they know it.  Kraken is a really big stretch considering paper backups exist.  MI undervotes ok in 2016, not ok in 2020, averages won't be disclosed, by the complainant?

 Not sure really where the issue is except the fact that it was only looked into in certain areas leaves me to believe overall fraud isn't the issue.  Just fraud in certain areas.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by eau de sauvage on 12/11/20 at 16:20:24

Trump may not have succeeded in stealing the election but he has succeeded in debasing democracy and has painted the Retrumplicans into a corner, they are the Party of grievance, whinging and basically against democracy. It's pathetic.

But I guess this means that you'll be vacating the forum now? or are you still going to wait till the inauguration or are you still working out how to weasel out of your bet after claiming you won't weasel out of it because of you vast unused stores of honour?


Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by eau de sauvage on 12/11/20 at 16:23:02

In what fantasy world does someone claim to have evidence of fraud when every lower court, appellate court, Federal court, state Supreme court and now SCOTUS has summarily dismissed 57 cases on the basis that there is no evidence or worse that there is no basis. Most of these were republican appointments. And the SCOTUS has basically just laughed at Trump as everyone said they would because er... Biden won the election.


What next, present videotapes of OAN and Fox news as 'evidence'?

“I think this will end up in the Supreme Court,” Mr. Trump said of the election a few days after Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s death in September. “And I think it’s very important that we have nine justices.”

Trump just lost 9-0, no dissents. So he lost even worse than if it was 8-0

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/12/20 at 04:54:17


4A6A68607D6A0F0 wrote:
 I'm still waiting for evidence of fraud vs evidence of procedural issues.

 PA does have some I think that should be looked into but this throwing out of 7 million votes is nonsense an they know it.  Kraken is a really big stretch considering paper backups exist.  MI undervotes ok in 2016, not ok in 2020, averages won't be disclosed, by the complainant?

 Not sure really where the issue is except the fact that it was only looked into in certain areas leaves me to believe overall fraud isn't the issue.  Just fraud in certain areas.


It will eventually spill out in bits and pieces but by then, it will be too late.

The moral of the story is intimidating through violence works. The Justices contrasted images of The Left burning cities against the relative calm of a MSM brainwashed foolish population and decided discretion is in fact the better part of valor so they bailed.

Unless there’s a very well hidden FBI or DOJ investigation quietly going on, The Left have stolen their second Presidential election.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Serowbot on 12/12/20 at 07:18:25

Stealing a free and fair election by getting 7 million more legal votes is diabolical... :-?

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/12/20 at 09:12:21

You didn’t get 7 million more legal votes and again, it’s where the votes were cast that matters.

Leftist cxxts trumpeted the phrase whistleblower for a year and how we had to listen and believe every word they said. Now we have a 1000 whistleblowers and they’re fodder for SNL.

Leftist suck.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by MnSpring on 12/12/20 at 12:33:42


796F78657D68657E0A0 wrote:
Stealing a free and fair election by getting 7 million more legal votes is ...

Really, In States where their is NONE,
that is NO requirement,
that one proves they are a Citizen,
You actually believe those 7 M votes were, 'legal' ?

Better hurry Bot, and get that Ocean Front land in Nevada !!!!!!!!!



Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Dave on 12/12/20 at 16:06:49

I don't believe the voter fraud will go unpunished - and I doubt that Biden will be the next president.  (And I expect that Kamala knows it too, as she has not yet vacated her Senate seat).

I believe there are things going on that we don't know are in process - big things.

And no........I don't need a foil hat! ;)

I guess we just need to be patient and see what happens between now and January 20th.




Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Eegore on 12/12/20 at 21:05:50


"The Justices contrasted images of The Left burning cities against the relative calm of a MSM brainwashed foolish population and decided discretion is in fact the better part of valor so they bailed."

 
 Where did you get this information?  Or are you just making that up?

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/13/20 at 05:25:21


08333E2938342F29323A37285B0 wrote:
I don't believe the voter fraud will go unpunished - and I doubt that Biden will be the next president.  (And I expect that Kamala knows it too, as she has not yet vacated her Senate seat).

I believe there are things going on that we don't know are in process - big things.

And no........I don't need a foil hat! ;)

I guess we just need to be patient and see what happens between now and January 20th.


I believe he will take office but I don’t think he will be there for long. He’s not even taking open questions. Aids are selecting reporters who agreed to ask preselected questions and then shuffling them away like children in kindergarten. The main stream media news outlets have been embarrassing for a long time but this is a new low watching them bow their heads and leave the room when some little 20 year old aid tells them to. Pathetic.

I don’t think she’s giving up her seat yet to cover that one in 1 million possibility.

I hope you’re right because the thought of a Google and Chinese manipulated puppet in the White House is tough to take.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/13/20 at 05:29:29


5C7C7E766B7C190 wrote:
"The Justices contrasted images of The Left burning cities against the relative calm of a MSM brainwashed foolish population and decided discretion is in fact the better part of valor so they bailed."

 
 Where did you get this information?  Or are you just making that up?


I deduced it from the available facts. Any steps taken to redo this election because of the widespread cheating and fraud would generate massive violence from the left. You can’t tell me that supreme court justices aren’t thinking about that. They would have to.

Just imagine what would happen if they invalidated all the absentee votes for example that did not have a matching signature validation in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.  

The violence would be off the charts.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Eegore on 12/13/20 at 07:47:21


 I don't think the SCOTUS will ignore due process based off of potential violence.

 Did you read the TX suit?  I can't imagine it would get into any court the way it was structured.  Not one person I know who works in US law considered it anything more than a re-hash of already failed case material.  Including Trump supporters.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Serowbot on 12/13/20 at 08:21:20

Merits don't matter when you think you own the court  ::)

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Eegore on 12/13/20 at 12:59:55


 So I just went over, again, the one in one quadrillion (1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000) with a different stats group and man that is some creative math.

 The problem is pulling up a huge sample size doesn't mean you can use it as "proof".  This is leaning more and more towards a political/social stunt to me than an actual case.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by eau de sauvage on 12/13/20 at 14:26:38

Makeneny explained that it was one quadrillion to the fourth power, which is 10^60 which is 7.5 billion times more atoms than there are in the entire Earth.


I love the way that the Trumplicans keep talking about the 'evidence' but the only evidence that matters is what is proved in court, and every single case has been thrown out either for lack of evidence or just complete nonsense. But we'll have to wait for the "real" evidence.

Yeah sure.

Pretty soon now and the fat orange fcuk will begone, and when the spell has worn off the Retrumplicans are going to have to understand that while the courts have their ideological stand, they will uphold the law and the rules of evidence.


Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Rockn on 12/13/20 at 14:38:17

At this point the goalposts are on wheels.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Serowbot on 12/13/20 at 14:42:45


4E535F5752485459545D4B573C0 wrote:
At this point the goalposts are on wheels.

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/14/20 at 04:52:50

You leftist traitors got some explaining to do.

Your panties were bunched up for three years based on a manufactured Russia collusion hoax (which ironically was hatched by Hilary herself) but you refused to read a word of actual evidence about the Biden family business in China and your front line soldiers, national media, never even asked questions. The one who dipped his toe in the water was blasted by fellow “journalist” for daring to bring it up. Now we find Hunter and Jim Biden have been under investigation for going on two years and no one’s asking Kung Fu Joe about it. Kamala? Forget it, she’s even more invisible than when she was running for President.

So my question is, since I’ll be gone from this site as the theft seems to have been successful, at what point will you even peak at, even consider that Kung Fu Joe used his VP office to rack up cash by trading what influence he had as the VP?

And by the way, all this was going on under Obama nose? Did he know the extent of it? Was he in on it? Did he just decide to let Kung Fu Joe go and do his thing as long as it didn’t get too far out of bounds? I tend to think the last one is the most likely explanation. I’m no Obama fan but I don’t get the feeling he’s so money motivated and he would do that. I could be wrong. He’s already constantly back in the “news” that he clearly is missing the game. I know he wrote yet another enormously long autobiography. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. It very well could be that for six months, Biden is basically going to be Obama’s puppet and then Harris will be Obama and AOC‘s puppet.


Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by MnSpring on 12/14/20 at 06:49:39


2D3F2B283F393B5E0 wrote:
. . .  the fat orange fcuk . . .

Being perfectly OK for a TDS, subject, to disrespect the POTUS.
Yet forbidding a Citizen from telling the truth,
(like AOC's mouth is only good for one thing)

Is just one of the absolute signs of Socialism.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Serowbot on 12/14/20 at 07:03:47

An investigation is not guilt.

You should know that after 5 years with Trump.
5 Years of fighting like crazy to not release any financial information is however suspicious.
... and you think we're biased?...

Hypocrisy is often a two faced coin


Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/14/20 at 08:02:42

You got the highlights Trump’s taxes illegally released and published by The NYTimes. Nothing there.

You didn’t answer. You refused  to read anything about this guy Tony Babalu ski and everything he presented but now it’s bubbling out and everyone’s gonna be forced to however everyone should’ve been forced to six or eight weeks ago when it first came out. But the Democrats media friends censored the information so low engaged voters would have no idea they were putting a Chinese puppet into office.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Serowbot on 12/14/20 at 08:41:09

Attorney General William Barr is reportedly brushing off Trump's attacks over Hunter Biden investigation as a 'deposed king ranting'

Trump's own AG lackey is too far left for you.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/14/20 at 10:44:57

Doesn’t Barr’s comments prove your idea he’s a lackey wrong? Other than clever one liners with cute little emojis, have you ever made a valid, substantial point?

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Serowbot on 12/14/20 at 10:55:17


4B797E6F68796E517D6E771C0 wrote:
Doesn’t Barr’s comments prove your idea he’s a lackey wrong?
The rats are fleeing the ship, show over.


Other than clever one liners with cute little emojis, have you ever made a valid, substantial point?
Probably not.  Why bother?  No minds ever change.

Substance is a waste in the TT...

Actually,... it seems a waste everywhere these days...  :-?

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Eegore on 12/14/20 at 11:43:20


Being perfectly OK for a TDS, subject, to disrespect the POTUS.
Yet forbidding a Citizen from telling the truth,
(like AOC's mouth is only good for one thing)

Is just one of the absolute signs of Socialism.


 
 Or it is the outcome of a Capitalist environment where a free citizen can operate a website where assigned moderators are free to indicate what is acceptable on the privately owned forum without continual oversight and rules set by the Government.  Each member is free to login and follow those rules. Free to leave because they don't like them, or Free to complain all the time like it will change something.

 Moderators don't want offensive statements about women.

 You want to keep posting, follow the rules.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Eegore on 12/14/20 at 15:43:50

"The challenges raised by the Campaign in this case, however, come long after the last play or even the last game; the Campaign is challenging the rulebook adopted before the season began."

 This is pretty close to how I see it.  Other than PA these challenges come after the election loss and were the same in 2016.  Why is there only fraud in areas where Trump lost and why wasn't it fraud before?

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by eau de sauvage on 12/14/20 at 16:38:08

Doesn’t Barr’s comments prove your idea he’s a lackey wrong?

If you keep spinning like this you'll end up drilling down to China. No, it proves that even someone like Barr who prostituted the DoJ for Trump and debased himself in the process by mischaracterising the Mueller report, showed that once he understood the election was lost that he had nothing more to gain by debasing himself further.

As you have seen, every single case brought in front of every level of the judiciary up to and including the S.C. has indicated there is either no evidence or no legal issues to challenge. Barr still has what is left of his professional dignity to protect.

Meanwhile given the prospect of being dismissed on Twitter, and being allowed to resign as long as he sends Trump a brownosing resignation letter for him to publish, Barr chose the latter.

btw, now that the electoral college has sent its electors to the college isn't it time you honoured your bet? Or at least admit that your posing as someone who would honour their bet was just a load of the usual bs.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/15/20 at 00:39:53

That deranged little toad isn't the president YET..

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by eau de sauvage on 12/15/20 at 01:30:43

JoG, I see you don't do irony. Two things are clear, 1. Trump's derangement is out in the open for all to see, and 2. Everybody already knows that Biden is President elect until the inauguration.


Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/15/20 at 05:13:13


6B4B49415C4B2E0 wrote:
"The challenges raised by the Campaign in this case, however, come long after the last play or even the last game; the Campaign is challenging the rulebook adopted before the season began."

 This is pretty close to how I see it.  Other than PA these challenges come after the election loss and were the same in 2016.  Why is there only fraud in areas where Trump lost and why wasn't it fraud before?


You’re stuck on this idea in your head the same things go on every year. They did not. We did not have 100 million vote before Election Day. We did not have states change election procedures near the election that made it easy to cheat. None of these events happened before. Now, put this together with an unprecedented media manipulation of news stories that were designed to harm one candidate and protect the other and we got exactly what you would expect.

This is like opening your company vending machines in the break room with a box for payment under the honor system, then hiring a thousand temporary workers at minimum wage, and be shocked at the theft.

If you doubt this “never before election” produced unparalleled fraud, you’ve naivety is off the charts.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Eegore on 12/15/20 at 07:15:52

"You’re stuck on this idea in your head the same things go on every year. They did not."

 That's not what I am saying.  I am saying that the legal challenges are going after things that did happen before, or trying to leverage previous practice in ways that skirt around providing direct evidence.

 The specifics of the legal challenges lack addressing the issues you present.  They address things like sharpie markers, or misread numbers, or "no Republican poll watchers" only to be challenged and answered with nonsense like "non-zero number".

 It is an unprecedented election process, but the lawsuit material doesn't typically address anything you are mentioning.  

 
 It's like having vending machines for decades and then trying to say that the vending machines were installed in a way that facilitates theft.  So you sue to take out the vending machines and not address the thousand temporary workers.

 This is the same logic as completely removing the USPS from the voting process and somehow want to have each voter justify why they can't go to a polling location in-person in order to be counted.  All this does is create another problem, primarily for the elderly.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/15/20 at 08:36:22

Except that didn’t happen.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Eegore on 12/15/20 at 11:39:58


"Except that didn’t happen."

 What didn't happen?

 

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/15/20 at 12:24:11

Nobody completely removed USPS but they did change voting procedures at the last minute.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Eegore on 12/15/20 at 12:28:24

 Ahh ok.

 I was referencing your recommendation that the USPS be removed from the voting process.  Or at least "no mail in" so absentee would have to be submitted some other way.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1607264399/7#7

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/15/20 at 13:16:21

We had states mail unsolicited ballots to every single voter on their registration rolls and then forced to count hundreds of thousands more than they ever had to before. Some states have been doing this in limited capacities before not critical swing states like MI, Pa, WI, GA.

Georgia is finally going to fully audit one county. What happens if their audit shows a high percentage of cases with unverifiable signatures on absentee ballots?

Look, experience tells me when you give people an opportunity to cheat some will definitely do it. And when you have four years of a media campaign painting one candidate as Hitler reincarnate any other as a comfortable safe little grandpa who just wants us to get along, you know there was widespread fraud even if it was an orchestrated from the top down. There have already been plenty evidence presented where ballots were counted without oversight and ballots counted without matching signatures even though they were supposed to.

Look, it’s too late. Biden will be president. Trump has a one in 1 million chance something changes that. The Democrats stole the election. They got away with it.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Eegore on 12/15/20 at 14:37:17


"Georgia is finally going to fully audit one county. What happens if their audit shows a high percentage of cases with unverifiable signatures on absentee ballots?"


 That's a good question.  I am glad to see it is happening and I too wonder what the results will be.  At least in this case there will be solid evidence and not speculation reinforced by very creative math.


Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/16/20 at 04:09:28

Snot over..

‘I can either sit back and be a part of the surrender caucus, or I can fight for our country’



“Well, it’s happened many times in the past,” Brooks said. “Apparently, some folks have not done their history. By way of example, the Democrats in the House tried it in 2017 when they tried to strike Alabama’s votes for Donald Trump. Georgia, the same way, the House Democrats tried to strike it. Barbara Boxer tried to strike Ohio for George Bush back in 2005, so this is not unusual. The law is very clear, the House of Representatives in combination with the United States Senate has the lawful authority to accept or reject Electoral College vote submissions from states that have such flawed election systems that they’re not worthy of our trust.”



And in this instance, with what has happened nationally, I’m quite confident that if we only counted lawful votes cast by eligible American citizens, Donald Trump won the Electoral College, and we should not be counting illegal votes and putting in an illegitimate President of the United States.” he continued.



The Alabama Republican congressman also pledged not to be a part of what he deemed the “surrender caucus” with the GOP, adding that he needs a U.S. Senator to join his challenge to the Electoral College for it to be successful.



Well, where we’re headed as a country is this, quite simply, we’re a Republic, and the bedrock of a Republic is an honest and accurate voting system. And if you don’t have an honest and accurate voting system, then you may as well throw out the claim that you’re a Republic. You’ve lost that right. You’ve lost the control of your government, and under those circumstances, those who can steal the most votes, who can engage in the most voter fraud and get away with it are going to be the ones that rule the roost in Washington, D.C. That’s not what our founding fathers wanted. That’s not what a million or so Americans who have lost their lives in wars wanted, giving us this Republic, this democracy where we could control our own fate and our own destiny.



So I have a choice, I can either sit back and surrender and be a part of the surrender caucus, or I can fight for our country. And that’s what I’m going to do. So on January 6, I’m going to object to the submissions of Electoral College votes from various states that, in my judgment, have such flawed election systems that their vote counts are unworthy of our ratification in the United States Congress. What I need is a United States Senator who will join me. If we have a House member and a senator, then by golly, that forces a House vote and a floor vote on whether to accept this systematically flawed election system or to reject it. I want to reject it so that we can have an honest and fair and accurate election.”



At a fundraiser last Saturday Stevie Wonder said
Everybody knows they stole it..

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by eau de sauvage on 12/16/20 at 04:38:32

and the bedrock of a Republic is an honest and accurate voting system.

I see you don't do irony. Yes, it is the bedrock of a democracy and your election was deemed by the election watchdog, handpicked by Trump to be the most secure in US history. Even the toadying Bill Barr said there was no meaningful election fraud. In fact it's amazing how well it was run in hindsight in the middle of a pandemic.

The only fraud is that set up by Trump beforehand and perpetrated by him and his supine sycophants. What is clear is that the Retrumplicans have no truck with democracy and they don't give a sh!t about the damage they are doing by continuing with this idiocy.

The Supreme Court and every other court and appeal court below them unanimously agreed there was no evidence of fraud in fact fraud wasn't even alleged in the actual court cases, just bs procedural rubbish that was struck down continuously.

The courts don't look at the gateway pundit for evidence, they have slightly higher standards. Trump is the ultimate conman and he knows there's one born every minute. He also knows how to harness your loathing and fear and hate and and racist anger.

But carry on JoG, because no one give a fcuk, even that son of a mitch McConnell has said, 'enough'. Can't you see this has all just been a sideshow to humour Trump because the spineless Retrumplicans, most of them anyway, are too scared that he'll mean tweet at them like he did to Jeff Sessions.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/16/20 at 04:38:59

Absolutely everybody knows. F’ing thieves.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by eau de sauvage on 12/16/20 at 04:40:40

No only people like you 'know' it. Only people who think a tv sideshow is 'evidence' and don't take any meaning from every court in the land from the lowest to the highest throwing every case out.

It's Trump who is the fcuking thief, and you know it.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/16/20 at 04:48:38


685A5D4C4B5A4D725E4D543F0 wrote:
Absolutely everybody knows. F’ing thieves.


There’s another objection. One member of the House and one member of the Senate must object on Jan 6th to Electoral College count. Unlikely to succeed but one of the last chances for justice to prevail.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by eau de sauvage on 12/16/20 at 05:03:22

Don't you understand, that's just part of the show, all it would do is cause a two hour delay and it would force half the GOP to shoot it down which McConnell knows is not a good look which is why he's called an end to this nonsense.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by eau de sauvage on 12/16/20 at 05:08:40

Read something other than the news from people who only tell you what you want to hear. At least one time FFS.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/opinion/republican-party-voter-fraud.html

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/16/20 at 05:11:16

and it would force half the GOP to shoot it down which McConnell knows is not


Force?
Trump has been opposed by all democrats and half the GOP since day one.
Why do you pretend everyone with an R by their name is actually in favor of draining the swamp and America first?
The status quo, bipartisan theft and corruption, is what Trump was hired to fight.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by eau de sauvage on 12/16/20 at 05:58:32

I think you misunderstand. By 'force' I mean that they will be forced to act normal which will piss off Trump. Amazingly even Son-of-a-Mitch McConnell has his limits.

Look at the bigger picture. It's no secret that the GOP need Gerrymanders and voter suppression in order to win. Even Trump said that out loud when he stated that if everyone who was allowed to vote actually voted the GOP would never govern again. Well at least not until they modified their platform, which as you might remember they didn't even bother to have one for this election, because they're only platform is to hate the Liberals and harness the anger, that's enough for them.

So all this show is not about election fraud, no one seriously thought it was actually real. No, the whole point is to use it as a launching point for the biggest most aggressive doubling down on voter suppression. And they have the Judges in place to allow it. That's the main point of all this. Will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

But why dwell on this, why not just enjoy the fact that Trump is gone. Florida are even going to throw him out of Mar-A-Lago now he's not president any longer due to him not being allowed to live at the club.

What I don't get about y'all complaining that there was voter Fraud and Trump really won, is that this supposed voter fraud was on the very same ticket that put all the down ballot congressman back into the House, they almost took the house. So how can there be fraud on the same ticket. It's obvious that these voters wanted the GOP back in the house but they didn't want Trump. This election was a personal repudiation of Trump. Can't you see that.

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/16/20 at 06:33:28

What I don't get about y'all complaining that there was voter Fraud and Trump really won, is that this supposed voter fraud was on the very same ticket that put all the down ballot congressman back into the House, they almost took the house. So how can there be fraud on the same ticket. It's obvious that these voters wanted th


I'm so happy you pointed that out..

So Trump loses,,
And down ticket bubs win.

And you believe that supports your position..

In traditional lefty fashion
Exactly backwards.

You're not considering the Biden only ballots.
Trump got MORE votes this time than last.
Hardly a repudiation.

How many
Mail in ballots
Had no fold lines?

Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by eau de sauvage on 12/16/20 at 07:07:29

And you believe that supports your position..

Er, I'm not the one taking a 'position', unless you consider accepting the unanimous verdicts of State and Federal courts and appellate courts and State and Federal Supreme courts all ruling the same way, and declaring 'no presented fraud and no valid legal cases and dismissing hearsay, as "a position".

In fact you are the one buying into the conspiracy theories about stolen election. And conspiracy it is because it would have to involve Republican Judges, and Legislatures colluding with some unnamed Democrat operatives as well as the DoJ and FBI. Which is a remarkable position to take.

And you believe that supports your position..

Not at all, I believe that it in fact points to the craziness of the 'rigged election' rhetoric.

The difference between you and the GOP Retrumplicans, is that they know this is all bs, but they are forced to play Trump's game, and they think there's safety in numbers. However you seem to believe it's real. And if that is the case, then I'm not sure what you hope to achieve by going along with it on these boards.

No sane person whatever their politics thinks this election was rigged judging by the court results. And if you believe the Trump propaganda then you're in the same position as a Jehova's Witness trying to convince people to listen to them.

Your faith in this is like a religious belief and if that is your belief then all you can do is state it, which you have, there's nothing more to say. I understand after seeing your responses that I may as well try and convince a JW to abandon their beliefs, it's the same thing.

I don't understand how you can dismiss the results of 60 cases being thrown out. How can you carry on with your blind belief in the face of this much evidence contrary to what you think. I get it that you're free to think what you want but if you cannot accept republican appointed judges' decisions and reasoning, then who do you trust?

It's like creationists trying to get creation "science" taught in the classroom. Sure it can be taught in religious studies but not in a science class. If scientists say it's not science then it's not science. Who do you ask to check if it's science or not? Plumbers? Popular vote?

Same with this, the "evidence" has been presented to the specialists, meaning the courts, and they've unanimously thrown it out. If you can't accept that, then what?

Have you seen Barr's asslicking 'resignation' letter to Trump? Yet even he said there's no 'there' there.


Title: Re: It’s over, the theft was a success.
Post by Eegore on 12/16/20 at 10:38:28


"How many
Mail in ballots
Had no fold lines?"


 So far all of the provided examples have been forgeries, or "examples" as they call them.

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