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Message started by kylejang on 11/24/20 at 07:09:13

Title: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by kylejang on 11/24/20 at 07:09:13

I was doing oil change yesterday and found out very little engine oil dripping out. I am shocked because I did top up little bit just couple months ago. No visible leaks so I think oil is burning but also I don't really see blue smoke on exhaust.
I only ride 24 km or 12 mile to work and any bad weather I don't ride including Canadian winter. This winter I did set up my garage and bike for bad ass looking bike project and all stop now until further damage assessment.
What is your suggestions?  :'( :'( :'( :'(
Thank you in advance.

Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by verslagen1 on 11/24/20 at 08:21:29

Important infor...

2F3D28212E252A23440 wrote:
It's 2008 with 15806 km(9821miles).
With Dyna muffler lots of backfire.


Not a lot miles to be burning oil.
You commute is short so you should be checking your cam chain adjuster soon... very soon.
Even though your commute is short, 2 months w/out checking your oil is a bit optimistic.

Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by ckahleer on 11/24/20 at 08:23:24

How many miles since last top up?
I would top up oil. Clean engine. And check oil level every 100 miles.
Rule out if any loss is due to leakage. See how many miles between top of sight glass to bottom.

Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by kylejang on 11/24/20 at 09:12:44

I checked dirty oil and cut oil filter found no metal pieces.
I am hopeful than yesterday and open oil filter cap more oil drain out so looks like whole situation is better than before. Thank you all for support

Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/24/20 at 10:12:57

The more miles on the oil the faster it goes away. A new oil change runs further without needing oil. I never use miles to decide when to change. I use how often I need to add.
Checking oil is painless.
Do it often. I generally look at it before I start it. I might check again while I'm out doing stuff, depending on miles on the oil and how hard I'm riding. Just having a couple of little two stroke oil containers of oil on board can be the difference between enough to get home safely or not.

Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 11/24/20 at 11:10:55

Kyle,

How much oil was drained? Did you only drain it from the filter box or did you remove the drain plug on the lower left side of the engine?

Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by kylejang on 11/24/20 at 13:59:01

After drain everything I re-measured oil it's less than 1 litre around 900mL. Is it ok ?

Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by ohiomoto on 11/24/20 at 14:03:33

The guy I bought my 08 from "drained" the oil from the "drain plug" on the front left side.  He said not much came out.  

He put two quarts in and didn't see a line in the little window so he put another quard and then another.  When he was done the bike wouldn't start so he sold it to me pretty cheap.

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Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by Dave on 11/24/20 at 16:38:15


5B495C555A515E57300 wrote:
After drain everything I re-measured oil it's less than 1 litre around 900mL. Is it ok ?


Time will tell....nothing you can do now.

How fast do you ride on your way to work?  The Savage engine does use oil when ridden at interstate speeds.

Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by kylejang on 11/24/20 at 17:21:00

I use highway to commute. Speed is normally 100 ~120 km/h or 60 ~ 75 mi/h. Little oil level glass is really suck.  I wish Suzuki make simple plastic dip stick.

Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 11/24/20 at 20:10:54

A liter is certainly low, but not low enough to do damage. Ride on.

Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by Zepp on 11/25/20 at 09:03:31

At last I got open my new Clymer manual!
It says, 1,8 liters for oil change.
And for oil change and filter change  2 liters.
1-0.9 liters is ofcourse half of what supose to be there.
But, if its not broken, its not broken!
I think that are margins to, it cant be that some less DL of oil could do any harm, if one not doing a lot offroad!
Comuting seems to be fairly level rides, the oil have to get below the intake of the oil pump to suck air!
And how to use the inspection glas on the right side of the engin.
One should have the bike on level ground, have the bike standing right up.. not on the side stand.

Easyest way is to have somebody  sitting on the bike in riding position, then you can inspect that glas, in the middle is prefered and recomended by Suzuki.

In any way, you have nothing to lose, put some new oil in it and change oilfilter, it could be one of your better buys, try it out.

Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by ckahleer on 11/25/20 at 10:57:53

An easy way to check oil level is put a mirror on the floor and stand the bike up until it balances. You will have to adjust the position/angle of the mirror the first time, but remember the position for subsequent level checks.

Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 11/25/20 at 11:11:01

I use a wheel chock for storage and maintenance. If you need to raise the rear tire, put the chock on the front wheel and use a floor jack. Need to raise the front, reverse the process. The bike sits level and stable.

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Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by Zepp on 11/26/20 at 08:35:30

At first I tryed to hold the bike right up by hand, it nerly fell over me.
Second try whit "somebody" , was my old mother, she could not hold it.
Aha, a better ide, let her sit in riding position.. shes to old (only 86) to climb the saddle!

Soo I bout my a wheel chock!

And did you know, the former owner probably filled up to the right marking, whit the bike on side stand?
Thats not good  either, to much oil can make enginparts, especialy the crankshaft and probably altso the balance axel, wisking air bubbles in the oil. Air is not that good as lubricant.

In anyway, the wheel chock was usefull, when I removed the saddle, perticaly on the left side!

Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by verslagen1 on 11/26/20 at 09:17:27

All you need is a block under the kickstand to get the bike nearly vertical.
Doesn't need to be perfect.
some people leave it on the kickstand and fill to the bottom line.

Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by kylejang on 11/26/20 at 10:00:50

Thank you all.  ;) ;), I will be more careful with oil level from now on. So I will restart my winter project. Should I ask new questions on new topics?

Title: Re: Big problem no engine oil!!!
Post by Zepp on 11/26/20 at 11:25:55


3527323B343F30395E0 wrote:
Thank you all.  ;) ;), I will be more careful with oil level from now on. So I will restart my winter project. Should I ask new questions on new topics?


We all want to know about your oil problem, and if its gone.. and mayby other things that could be related to this. IE if your engine need  a lot of oil.. it could be related!
Any other things could be a new topic.. and preferely, there are no other problems. It could be that everyone know you a bit better befor you start a new topic. Ask in this befor you start another one!

In any case, it seams that you got the same exhauste as me, a Leo Vince Silvertail?

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