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Message started by NHLycan on 11/18/20 at 15:25:05

Title: Is it getting crazier out there?
Post by NHLycan on 11/18/20 at 15:25:05

A buddy and I were recently talking thru the implications of conspiratorial thinking. He's got a co-worker who is apparently convinced of the Black Knight Satellite conspiracy. I won't bore you but it's on Wikipedia if you care.
He was thinking of having him canned. If the dude's crazy, he's a risk was my buddy's thought. I disagreed. Most times it doesn't seem to matter what sort of nonsense folks claim to believe. As long as they can still do their job and I don't have to ride shotgun in a truck cab with them, who cares.
Exceptions to that are abundant. Like if you think vaccines are being used by Bill Gates to implant microchips, maybe you shouldn't be working at the front desk of the doctors office.
For me the more interesting question is what part of our evolutionary journey caused us to be so very vulnerable to this sort of crap. You'd think nature would have snapped this twisted branch of crazy off.
Unless of course you believe in creationism.
Sigh.
But it does SEEM like loony is on the rise, doesn't it? I acknowledge that it could be just my media habits and biases. I hope that's all it is.
It could also be the changes in our media environment are amplifying conspiracy theories accidentally. Or because they sell. So maybe it's just my perception.

But we now have Q devotees in Congress.

And look at this board.
Guys who are hiding in their basements in fear of lesbians and vegans. It seems like a phase shift.

Back several decades ago the average IQ dropped world wide. It was lead. Every child was getting dosed with it from womb to grave. Mass development issues world wide. Same thing happened in Rome right before it fell apart. It was the water pipes.

I wonder if there's something like that happening now. Maybe the excess CO2 is hitting some trip wire in the brains of the vulnerable. Cause darn it seems like there's a lot more crazy out there.

Title: Re: Is it getting crazier out there?
Post by eau de sauvage on 11/18/20 at 16:15:34

I'm sure some people believe the genuine batshit crazy stuff, otherwise you'd never have Jim Jones style suicides. Having said that though I myself find it hard to believe that most of the people who claim to believe obvious garbage do not sincerely believe it.

To give a high profile example Trump claims to profess that scientists are talking crap, however when he himself becomes ill, I'm fairly confident that he's going to allow the doctors and scientists to do their thing.

I think the current malaise it just a form of mass hysteria caused by the fundamental human condition. There is I guess some comfort in belonging to a tribe who will shore up your self image.

Title: Re: Is it getting crazier out there?
Post by WebsterMark on 11/18/20 at 17:33:15

And look at this board.
Guys who are hiding in their basements in fear of lesbians and vegans. It seems like a phase shift.

WTF are you talking about?

Our fair and balanced moderator on here ( along with vast percentages of Democrats) thinks a 17 year old straight A student, son of a local judge in Maryland, held gang rape parties all summer where the attendees were from a few Catholic high schools in an upper middle class neighborhood where virtually everyone knew everyone else and the same girls were gang raped multiple times and NO ONE KNEW OR SAID ANYTHING about it until some crazy woman made up a story to cover her affair that came out in marriage counseling 20 years later....and you’re about some obscure Black Knight conspiracy......

Title: Re: Is it getting crazier out there?
Post by WebsterMark on 11/18/20 at 17:33:54

Get some perspective son. You can’t buy it on Amazon but it’s out there.

Title: Re: Is it getting crazier out there?
Post by Eegore on 11/18/20 at 17:35:45

There's a lot of study regarding conspiracy based thinking. It is rather easy to research as it takes something as simple as making something up, posting it on Twitter and tracking the activity.

A lot has to do with how our brains are programmed to recognize patterns, and it creates them if there aren't any around.

Another is the fact we are connected in a way we never have been before by the internet, and our continual failure to realize we are consistently corralled into like-minded spaces for profit. We know it happens, but won't do anything about it because the positive feedback loop of hearing others identify with your suspicions is a very addictive drug.

If I think maybe a blue gelatinous being is living under my refrigerator I can get online, look for it and find people out there that think the same thing. Very unlikely if I didn't have billions of people to ask and had to just ask around town.

Now if I find someone online saying they have a reddish green jelly that moves under their stove my brain will assemble the pattern and tell me this guy has the same problem I do.

Then some high school kid playing in the dark web will make a whole back story to these ideas, connecting them to Government research and Alien tech, toss it out there and now there's some real substance to that monster under my fridge.

Toss in search engine redirecting based off of location, search history, demographics etc. and the irresponsible "sharing" and "liking" of anything that held our interest for more than 4 seconds and in no time plenty of people will have the same gelatinous Government engineered alien under their kitchen appliances.

Now if I had to scrape up that blue cr ap under my fridge and take it to a lab, talk to other people around town about my suspicions, some biologists, most likely a janitor, and have to justify my stance with more than a post on Facebook, I bet the conspiracy wouldn't go nearly as far.

Title: Re: Is it getting crazier out there?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/18/20 at 18:52:14

Yeah, it's crazy.
Four years ago, Russia turned the election to Trump.
This year, the election process is armor plated and interference is impossible.
Pay no attention to the statistical analyses,,

Today a grown man can crawl outta bed, declare himself a woman, and, five o'clock shadow, testicles and thingy aside, we are supposed to applaud the poor deluded creatures " Bravery " ,

Yeah, our world is weird...

Ohhh, but let's not forget
The Science is Settled
Regarding the climate,,,
But your sex ?
Naaah, that is completely your choice..
And I'm just supposed to nod and go with it..
And if I don't like it, then I'm a bad man.

Title: Re: Is it getting crazier out there?
Post by Eegore on 11/18/20 at 19:15:20

Liking it isn't the issue.

Its the physical assault of kicking him in the nuts you claim you would engage in that is the issue.

Title: Re: Is it getting crazier out there?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/18/20 at 19:54:43

Liar.

Title: Re: Is it getting crazier out there?
Post by eau de sauvage on 11/18/20 at 21:18:22

6E5C5B4A4D5C4B74584B52390 wrote:

Get some perspective son.

Says the person without apparent irony who dines exclusively on fantasies, conspiracies, nut job sites and a smorgasbörd of petty stories extrapolated into some grotesque idea of the world from your very tiny perspective, with only cursory bad faith engagement.

Title: Re: Is it getting crazier out there?
Post by eau de sauvage on 11/18/20 at 21:23:10

76696F6875724373437B69652E1C0 wrote:

Four years ago, Russia turned the election to Trump.
This year, the election process is armor plated and interference is impossible.

Did you get an irony transplant? Russia did turn the election with the coordinated release of Hilary Clintons emails which I gotta admit Trump used pretty well. We now know that Trump was in continual contact with Roger Stone regarding their release, which Trump lied about, and necessitated him pardoning Stone in exchange.

None of the above is conspiracy theories btw. It's all documented in the Mueller report for future generations. Mueller may have been constrained regarding bringing charges, but he meticulously detailed all the evidence and documented it while it was all still fresh.

Title: Re: Is it getting crazier out there?
Post by MnSpring on 11/19/20 at 06:37:59

4E5C484B5C5A583D0 wrote:

So, ONLY, Conservative, Intelligent, Responsible, Adults,
Are capable of, ‘conspiracy’.

Yet when a believer in the, UL, DFI, FDS, Socialist, woke/way,
does, says, and posts things like:
dines exclusively on fantasies,
conspiracies,
nut job sites,
smorgasbörd of petty stories,

It is the equivalent of,
'in whatever Religion you believe'
Gods Word !
(Unless one believes in, 'Not believing')

Title: Re: Is it getting crazier out there?
Post by Eegore on 11/19/20 at 13:36:36

"Liar."

So you didn't say if a guy told you that you needed to call him a woman that you would:

"kick the ignrant sumbich in the nuts"

What did you say then?

As a reminder this was your response the last time I asked:

"While it is possible that would demonstrate for him he REALLY is a he, and that looks like something I would say..."

There is more to that post, however I am addressing the statements as there are two of them, of enacting violence against someone for saying and only saying something you do not like. I'm not saying you would do this, i am saying that people doing it would be more of an issue than just thinking the whole thing is stupid.

So all I am saying is that nobody really cares if we don't like something, it's when we start assaulting or threatening to assault people that is becomes an issue.

I don't like your truck.

I will wreck into your truck to show you how much don't like it.

I don't think a trans-sexual is brave.

I will kick that trans-sexual sumbich in the nuts because he wants me to call him brave.

See where the issue is?