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Title: 51/49 Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/20 at 05:48:21 In 2016, I was positive Trump would win. 3 days before, we were out at a restaurant/bar and local TV & paper was doing a show and they asked me on camera who would win and I correctly said Trump. This time around,I’m 51/49 Trump, but I really don’t know. The liberal social media outlets are going all out to get their guy elected and together with our leftist news media, it might be enough. If Trump wins, leftist scum will riot for a while. But when the blood settles, some things have got to change. We can’t have all this power in one party rule at the top of media institutions with such great influence. We could build gallows but guessing that won’t fly with some but we’re going to have to do something. If Biden wins, I’ll pay my bet to the forum that the cowardly TT wouldn’t/couldn’t put his money where his big mouth was and leave. Biden will be a disaster and likely be out of office in a year. He should have picked a different running mate and made Kamala the AG and a deal she wouldn’t prosecute when all the Tony Bobulinski evidence finally comes to light, which it will. If Trump wins, half of you on here will scream and be infected with TDS for another 4 years. Which is to bad because, as I’ve pointed out, our fair and impartial moderator Sew, has changed these past few years. Gotten darker with hatred bubbling up. If Biden wins, I’ll move forward. His ridiculous policies won’t effect me much. Thankfully I’m in a position right now where I can weather whatever the babbling fool throws out there. If I gotta pay more in taxes, I’ll write a check. Big deal, I’d rather keep it but it’s only money. Some of you begging for Biden won’t be so lucky. We’ll be entering a dangerous time for the nation as the socialist will have a friend as a VP who’ll move into the top slot when Joe resigns within a year. After that, it will be a fight for the survival for the greatest nation ever to have existed. A shinning light on a hill as once described. It will be hard to stay on that hill with generations raised in prosperity who have no clue they are over throwing a system that gave them opportunity to grow up stupid and ignorant. Good luck. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by MnSpring on 10/29/20 at 07:58:47 360403121504132C00130A610 wrote:
Very well said ! ... If Biden wins... ... it will be a fight for the survival for the greatest nation ever ... ... generations raised in prosperity who have no clue they are over throwing a system that gave them opportunity to grow up stupid and ignorant ... And that sums it up nicely ! I voted early yesterday, stood in line at the County courthouse for over a hour. Inside the building we were given a clipboard/pen, and told to fill out our name, address, DL/ID #, or last 4 of S.S. #. Also, our Phone # and our e-mail address. (I did NOT fill out any of those two) AND a 'CHECK BOX', to be 'checked or not', saying, 'Are You A Citizen of the USA' Done deal, so easy, ANYBODY, could do it !!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by eau de sauvage on 10/29/20 at 12:22:45 I voted early last week for the first time in my life. :) It was a terrible bet WM. Fact is that overall the polls were correct in the last election. Hilary won the popular vote by a large margin. That she lost in the end is a reflection of the nutty electoral system where just fractions of a percent in Mi, Wis, did her in. You only have to watch Pennsylvania on the night because Trump cannot win the electoral college without Penn. Same with Florida, if Trump loses there he also cannot win. As Glenn Kirschner says, the numbers have to be 'too big to rig' and 'too real to steal'. However if you've been watching the Supreme Ct rulings this week you'll see that Kavanaugh is positioning himself and the court to overturn the election. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by MnSpring on 10/29/20 at 13:43:08 35273330272123460 wrote:
Really ? You get to vote, 2 Years ahead of time ? "...The next Australian federal election will be held in or before 2022 to elect members of the 47th Parliament of Australia..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Australian_federal_election |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by MnSpring on 10/30/20 at 14:34:20 7A687C7F686E6C090 wrote:
Veeerrrrryyyyyy interesting ……. (As often said in a LI Skit) Exclusively, only asking. Exclusively, not requiring. Exclusively not saying no answer, is a agreement. And, Exclusively, related to, only, the posts on the ‘TT’ titled part of this total forum. I ask why have you not commented on your statement: eau de sauvage wrote on Yesterday at 2:22pm: I voted early last week for the first time in my life. ... When you have commented 11 times, on other subjects, after that question ? To repeat/rephrase. I did not know, in Australia, one was allowed to vote 2 years (+/-) early in a National Election. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by eau de sauvage on 10/30/20 at 15:58:44 @Mn, https://www.ecq.qld.gov.au/elections/election-events/2020-state-general-election Anyhoo, Webster, you do know that those "liberal scum" are your fellow americans, and mostly just normal everyday people like yourself with different views to you. See how super polarised Trump has made the election. The only possible way for Trump to win is via the Supreme Court |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by MnSpring on 10/30/20 at 16:55:42 65776360777173160 wrote:
Excellent that you shared that with all of us. Did you Vote, (As a Subject, not a Citizen), for candidates of the, "Liberal Party of Australia" ? |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by MnSpring on 10/30/20 at 17:04:58 70627675626466030 wrote:
I looked that post over, all I found was, " leftist scum " Which would be the THIEVES and DESTROYERS, who MAKE a , 'peaceful protest', into a Full Bowen RIOT. Which would be akin to the kkk etc. types. Why are you saying the Right should embrace the kkk types ???? |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by eau de sauvage on 10/30/20 at 21:22:26 Mn, why do you write unintelligible posts with formatting that makes it even more difficult to decipher? |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by WebsterMark on 10/31/20 at 05:34:57 46544043545250350 wrote:
These are not normal, everyday people. They are scum. They are not an idea. This has happened every night for 4 months. News blackout so real, everyday normal people don’t correctly link them to the immediate future of the Democratic Party. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a9eF4u_Mbs |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by MnSpring on 10/31/20 at 18:47:27 A-Yep, Their are NOW, Business that are Boarding their Windows and Doors, in preparation of the Election. Say how's does it goes in; CHOP, formerly called "CHAZ", formally called, "Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. Where NOBODY, has turned off, the water, the sewer, the eclectic ????? Is winter Coming? |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by WebsterMark on 11/01/20 at 09:40:40 I’m upping my comfort level of a Trump victory to 55/45. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by WebsterMark on 11/01/20 at 09:48:47 I might need to reverse those numbers. I just saw the new Democratic ad below and it made some good points. Who agrees? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Am5zsJlhPk |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by Serowbot on 11/01/20 at 12:46:35 Web,.. are you all ready to go along with Trump when he declares himself the winner before the mail-in votes are counted?... We've once again heard the quite part said out loud from the very big brain n' chief |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by WebsterMark on 11/01/20 at 14:16:02 Oh, be serious. Both of them are going to claim a lot of things in the next few days. Ultimately, someone’s going to be declared a winner and there will be objections that probably end up in the supreme court. Or, it could be overwhelming enough that one of them will just declare defeat. It will be an interesting week. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by eau de sauvage on 11/01/20 at 15:26:18 Oh, be serious. Both of them are going to claim a lot of things in the next few days. That genuinely was a serious question from Serowbot, I'd be interested in your answer too. Because 100% Trump has already confided in his people that he will declare victory on the night if for example Penn. has him in front which is very likely considering that the mailed votes won't be counted till later. He'll do this just to create more and more chaos. So are you going along with his election night victory claim, if it happens or are you prepared to wait till the OFFICIAL tallies are in. Because unofficial tallies are also reported as votes are tallied, but the unofficial tallies are only provisional. Trump will surely create havoc if he can. What's you stance on this? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/us-election-2020-trump-victory-early-election-call-b1511795.html https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/09/democrats-fear-trump-may-declare-victory-on-election-night-before-all-the-votes-are-counted My gut reaction tells me that the polls will have underestimated Biden's numbers, and it will in fact be a landslide Biden victory. So hopefully he won't even be able to use his 'election night declaration' strategy. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by WebsterMark on 11/01/20 at 16:36:05 That was not a serious question, but that was a serious answer. Both are going to claim victory if there’s any reason too and both are going to wait for those states with extension on when mail in ballots are received, Unless it’s a large margin of victory for one. we’re looking at Friday or Saturday. So Eau, you and I have a few more days to yak it up on here til one of us disappears. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by eau de sauvage on 11/01/20 at 16:52:04 Biden will not claim victory without OFFICIAL results, where as Trump most certainly will continue to do what he has been doing for four years. Although it won't work he will try and do as much harm as he can in the hope that he'll get lucky and have contested ballots that matter. It should be Mn going not you, because at least I can decipher your posts. I might hang my political commentating boots up anyway after the madness that has been this last four years is over. Because I already know what you guys are going to say anyway, I just have to do a quick squiz of fox or breitbart. But the Trump show will not be over once he's out of office but it will good to see his greedy swampy family booted out with him. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by eau de sauvage on 11/01/20 at 17:04:45 This will cheer you up WM, Michael Moore reckons there's a good chance Trump the evil genius can pull this off... https://youtu.be/vyn5rhRua-c |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by WebsterMark on 11/02/20 at 04:42:35 I saw where Ohio has 10 days to count absentee ballots. Ohio has voted for the winning President something like 40 or 50 years in a row. 10 days is a long time for shenanigans...... |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by WebsterMark on 11/02/20 at 04:48:28 Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney, a Democrat, warned residents in his city that counting the mail-in ballots “will easily take several days” after Election Day, which increases the possibility that it could be a while before the election is settled. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by eau de sauvage on 11/02/20 at 23:14:13 635156474051467955465F340 wrote:
Quite the opposite, what takes up a lot of time counting mail votes, is the process of certifying the signatures and the like. It's a hard argument to make for the Republicans when Trump appointed a political donor the corrupt Louis de Joy to slow down the mail. I think there's some sort of legal principle that you can't complain about something that you yourself caused to happen. Having said that, with the amount of votes this election it is highly unlikely that there'll be anything decided by late mail votes. I'm still predicting a landslide for biden, close to 400, and flipping the house to boot. The US and the world will breath a collective sigh of relief to this nightmare. After a group of Republicans tried to have 127,000 votes thrown out because they were drive in, {WTF} and that lost in the court, then it lost in the all republican Supreme Court (State) then they took it to a Federal Court where a Bush appointed Judge threw it out, with the comment that he 'wasn't happy' but he has to apply the law! Er yes, that's what Judges are supposed to do. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by WebsterMark on 11/03/20 at 04:00:07 I'm still predicting a landslide for biden, close to 400, and flipping the house to boot. The US and the world will breath a collective sigh of relief to this nightmare. One of us is completely out of touch with reality. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by WebsterMark on 11/03/20 at 19:24:51 1D2F28393E2F38072B38214A0 wrote:
I feel a little bad pointing out how ridiculous your prediction was but you deserve it. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by eau de sauvage on 11/04/20 at 21:56:03 I feel a little bad pointing out how ridiculous your prediction was but you deserve it. You know what @WM, I also feel a little bad about taking that sucker bet off you. Tell you what after Biden is elected President, I'll let you off the hook. Call it a Presidential pardon if you like. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by WebsterMark on 11/05/20 at 04:56:51 44564241565052370 wrote:
It was obvious you were never going to honor the agreement but I will. so stick your offer which was intended to appease your own guilt knowing you weren’t going to leave. But let’s remember something, Fox, CNN, MSNBC etc don’t get to declare the winners so let’s wait. I knew Biden could never win without cheating, that was obvious. Points below from WSJ Kim Strassel 1) I am legitimately interested/confused by this. I checked, and the top number is indeed Wisconsin's active registered voter number as of Nov. 1. The bottom is approx. what has been counted. That is a (not feasible) 89% turnout. 2) The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is claiming a 71% state turnout. I'm not sure where it gets this, but that would make more sense, given even populous Milwaukee didn't exceed 83% turnout, and Dane lower. (Do math on what rest of state wud need to bump up state avg to 89) 3) True, Wisconsin has same day voter registration. But to be at 71%, WI would have yesterday needed 900k same-day registrations. ( If I'm doing my math wrong--please tell me. 3,288,771 divided by 4,588,771 equals 71% . 4,588,771 minus 3,684,726 =900k) 4) Is that possible/conceivable? That would be akin to increasing WI's registered voting population by up to 30%--in one day. It would also suggest that if those same-day registrations hadn't happened, WI would have had a ridiculously LOW turnout. 5) I suppose it is possible WI's turnout was higher than 71% (again, not sure where MJS gets that). But that would be wild, given the state's own history and what we saw elsewhere yesterday. An even an 80% turnout would still require HUGE same-day registration. 6)Surely a record/tally of those same-day registrations must exist. It would therefore seem a straightforward proposition to set the numbers/record straight? Again, explain if I'm missing something. @WI_Elections 7) So, more. I compared some vote totals to voter registration--by county. Nearly every county i've looked at so far--left and right--registered turnout of 89% or higher. (several at 93%) I suppose its possible--but still seems extraordinary. 8) I think high voter turnout is great, and if WI truly did this, wow. I only question it because it is so strikingly at odds with any other state. 9)One thing that makes more sense is if MSP number of 71% if referring to voting-eligible population (rather than registered voters). But still, wow--89% turnout of registered voters. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by WebsterMark on 11/05/20 at 05:27:22 Ultimately, the most likely outcome is Trump will lose. The 3 & 4 week voting by mail period allowed a lot of disengage people to vote based on SNL, late night comedy shows etc... It’s not that these people aren’t particularly bright, it’s just they are products of today’s culture. Many didn’t vote for anyone other than President as is obvious by Republican advances elsewhere. However, and with 100% certainly, this result is Trump’s fault. Here’s a truism all should remember: The best traits about a person are also the worst. For example, Being meticulous and neat results in less stress and emergencies because the preparedness avoids many of those situations from ever occurring. However, those traits reduce the opportunity to learn how to navigate surprises so when those inevitably occur, the reaction is disproportionate to the cause. Same with Trump. His ego got him elected and his ego refused to allow him growth. Biden is an bumbling idiot. Kamala is a joke. All Trump needed to was point out calmly and authoritatively a few facts about Biden and he was done. Even with the massive infrastructure of the media protecting Harris and Biden, he had the platform in the debates, but his ego wouldn’t allow him to shut up and let the other guy hang himself. And now we’re all gonna pay the price. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by Eegore on 11/05/20 at 05:32:30 How can you say it's Trump's fault and also say he could only lose by Biden cheating? Aren't those mutually exclusive? Trump won. It is impossible that the US voted for Biden by majority/electoral college outcome. Or: Trump lost. His behavior outweighed his actions in too many people's eyes, or those voters are ignorant SNL/late night comedy watchers. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by eau de sauvage on 11/05/20 at 05:53:37 It was obvious you were never going to honor the agreement but I will. so stick your offer which was intended to appease your own guilt knowing you weren’t going to leave. I was wondering how you were going to weasel out of it, and that was one of the first things I thought you'd come up with, seeing as you have a preternatural talent for reading other people's minds and then accusing them of something. Like when you kept insisting that I didn't listen to the Barrett hearings, over and over. That was also the reason it was a sucker bet that I took off you because I'd already had enough of this forum exactly because you and those like you have the audacity to simply state what other people really think or would do. Regarding the rest of that post, it is also another good reason to not participate in this forum it's just endless insane conspiracy theories and no one can argue any sense because you are certain of what is going on. So much whining. I'm sure you're prolly a nice person, but it is what it is. lot of disengage people to vote based on SNL Again with the mind reading. So you attribute Trump's loss to people who are swayed by satire. But apparently you don't consider the Trump voters who would be swayed by the continual barrage of Trump's disinformation, which is a little more serious than satire. Here’s a truism all should remember: The best traits about a person are also the worst. Trump is an iconoclast, i.e. his worst traits are his worst. Or rather only has worst traits, he has no redeeming features being a cruel, sadistic clinical narcissist. With Trump often the cruelty was the point. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by Serowbot on 11/05/20 at 06:29:15 The bet is off. |
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Title: Re: 51/49 Post by eau de sauvage on 11/05/20 at 06:35:49 @WM said:I think the vote in California is going to surprise some people. Certainly Trump will not win the electoral votes in California. But right now I bet he will not lose by his much as he did to Hillary. The simple fact is Hispanics support Trump in far greater numbers than they have in the past. Remember when you talk about this “Hillary won by 3 million votes last election” thing recall that she won by 4 million more in California and lost 1 million in the other 49 states. That’s why we have an Electoral College. Below is only 65% of votes counted. http://https://i.postimg.cc/qvD1qQPx/Screen-Shot-2020-11-06-at-12-32-05-am.jpg |
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