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Message started by zevenenergie on 10/26/20 at 06:11:05

Title: No Plan
Post by zevenenergie on 10/26/20 at 06:11:05

Am not in politics, but this got me mad.
Trump got no healtcare plan!

https://imgur.com/gallery/yxRvNm4

Title: Re: No Plan
Post by Serowbot on 10/26/20 at 07:08:31

It's a reality show prop...
We've learned to expect as much

Title: Re: No Plan
Post by WebsterMark on 10/26/20 at 09:16:21

My healthcare is fine, leave it alone.

Title: Re: No Plan
Post by Eegore on 10/26/20 at 10:37:40

Pre-existing coverage loss is a huge issue. I saw a stat that 70% of Americans don't want to lose pre-existing coverage.

Who are the 30% that want to lose coverage that they pay for?

I remember in CO when thousands of women lost OBGYN coverage overnight when United started considering yeast infections to be a pre-existing issue. Took hundreds of OBGYN's preparing a lawsuit to get that overturned.

Title: Re: No Plan
Post by zevenenergie on 10/26/20 at 14:21:14

Here in the Netherlands we pay an average of € 150 per month for a health insurance policy where almost everything is reimbursed.
From an ambulance to operations.
And if you expect, for example, that you need extra fisio therapy. You can expand your policy once a year.
Getting sick or having an accident doesn't cost you extra money.

Title: Re: No Plan
Post by verslagen1 on 10/26/20 at 14:32:39

1434363E2334510 wrote:

Who are the 30% that want to lose coverage that they pay for?

I didn't know there were that many congressmen.

Title: Re: No Plan
Post by Matchless G11 on 10/26/20 at 15:11:13

405F4C5F545F545F485D535F3A0 wrote:

zevenenergie
Does you tv have the endless parade of commercials that state:
"Have you or a loved one taken this drug, has it turned your eyeballs purple? Caused a rash? Lead to Scabosis?
Well ... then call us Dewey Cheaten and How. We will get us...I mean you money!" ?

Both the dems and Republicans will not address the out of control lawsuits that drive health care prices out of this world.
My parents did not have health insurance in the 1960s. Middle class they did ok.
The high cost started in the 1970s with the ambulance chasing lawyers, and now snow balled into insanity.

Title: Re: No Plan
Post by zevenenergie on 10/26/20 at 15:18:05

I dont have TV 8-)

Title: Re: No Plan
Post by Eegore on 10/26/20 at 15:27:56

Eegore wrote on Today at 10:37:40:
Who are the 30% that want to lose coverage that they pay for?

I didn't know there were that many congressmen.

Right?

All I can think of is youth. They went out and asked a bunch of 19 year old athletes how they feel about pre-existing coverage, and showed them rates from the 1990's.

I know I didn't care that much when I was 20, but one bone-break an learning that literally anything to do with my left arm, for the rest of my life, was no longer covered really woke me up. Anything relate to my left arm, for the rest of my life, is "chronic" and thus is never covered.

All ailments that utilize the left arm are no ,longer covered, including, and I dug this up to quote accurately: "Angina, pre- incident indicators of cardiac arrest, cardiac disease, or other cardiology based issues analyzed by pain or other complications of the left appendage.
joint pin, arthritis, or any ".

Since I broke a bone in my left arm when I was 20, if they use my left arm as any form of assessment for heart related issues... they wont pay a dime. if I have joint pain, ever, in my life on my left arm, not covered. If a break a finger, ever in my life again, on my left arm... not covered.

Yeah lets let that start again.

Title: Re: No Plan
Post by eau de sauvage on 10/26/20 at 17:49:54

It's pretty well a disgrace that the wealthiest country on Earth has a situation where vulnerable or poor people are not covered with some type of universal care.

In Australia we have a 2% Medicare levy on taxable income, and you're done. It doesn't stop anyone from still having private insurance if they want certain perks like being able to choose their own specialist. But I've had a few operations over the years including a rod down my tibia and cutting edge robotic work, by absolute top specialists in their field without needing to pay anything more than the reasonable 2% levy.

How Americans whether die hard Republicans, or die hard Democrats or even die hard Trumpsters, can still buy Trump saying one week before an election that 'we have a beautiful health care replacement for obamacare' and we'll reveal it soon, meaning they do not have one, is impossible to understand.

Why? Because he was elected on dismantling Obamacare and replacing it. He has been saying for four years, the entire time the same thing. His justice department is in court right now as we speak seeking to completely invalidate obamacare in it's entirety which include preexisting condition, yet he still says they aren't going to do that. while they are actually doing it. How do you people of any political persuasion buy this? Four fcuking years later and he still has no plan. He said to Chris Wallace in that infamous interview a few months ago that he'll release it in two weeks. He's been saying this bullshit for four years.

It's like his 'tax cuts'. He still goes on about how 'the Democrats will up your taxes'. Well if you're a billionaire you're correct. And look at his continual stock market boasts, that's just the super wealthy benefiting from the tax cuts to corporations. Why would ordinary Americans ever buy into this? It's impossible for me to understand.

You're so obviously being fleeced. Even if you disagree with some of the Democrat policies, is that any reason to allow the GOP to enrich the wealthy and harm the ordinary person with regards to health care? I really don't get it.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-covid-response-economy-jobs-taxes-inequality-1080345/

Title: Re: No Plan
Post by Serowbot on 10/27/20 at 07:09:33

He'll release his healthcare plan when he releases his taxes...

Title: Re: No Plan
Post by MnSpring on 10/27/20 at 15:23:38

73617576616765000 wrote:

... He has been saying for four years ...

So that is bad.

Yet, the ~~Ding-Dong~~, er Biden,
has been saying for FORTY SEVEN YEARS,
(43 years LONGER)
'he will fix things'
Is good ?????

OK, Got It !

...You're so obviously being fleeced....

Title: Re: No Plan
Post by MnSpring on 10/27/20 at 15:37:12

5B495D5E494F4D280 wrote:

... I've had a few operations over the years including a rod down my tibia and cutting edge robotic work ...

Did you select a person to do that work, by,
Sexual Preference,
Skin Color,
Heritage,
Religion,
Sex ?
Or did you select the person to do that work,
by the skill they had,
to do that work ?

Title: Re: No Plan
Post by eau de sauvage on 10/27/20 at 22:15:05

@Mn,

But that is the whole point isn't it, many of the Federal Judges were deemed by the American Bar Association of being "unqualified" what part of "unqualified" don't you understand. Yet they were chosen over more qualified Black people.

Title: Re: No Plan
Post by MnSpring on 10/29/20 at 08:28:57

35273330272123460 wrote:

... the Federal Judges were deemed by the American Bar Association of being "unqualified" ...

I looked into it, here is the, 'rest of the story', (AKA Paul Harvey)

Trump did NOT, lick the butt of the ABA,
by asking something like; '...Hey how about these...'.
The AMA was pissed, because Trump did not BOW to them.
(Like Obama did several times and to several people)

When the AMA got a hold of the list,
they could only, 'slam', 3 of them.

The number 3, comes from 80% MORE sites,
then the sites that said 4.

Title: Re: No Plan
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/29/20 at 20:12:00

ABA ,, objective?
Says who?

Title: Re: No Plan
Post by eau de sauvage on 10/29/20 at 22:11:35

The threat of court packing may be enough to keep them in check, the first big Test just a week after the elections is Trump trying to strike down Obama Care in its entirety. I have a feeling that Barrett will be persuaded by Roberts to vote against it. Roberts is playing the long game and he'll want Barrett to play along too.