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Message started by tzutzu42 on 10/23/20 at 07:39:05

Title: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by tzutzu42 on 10/23/20 at 07:39:05

Hi, I have been riding motorcycle for about 10 years but have never tried any rebuilt project on any of my bikes before. This year, I got a 2003 savage from an old friend in good condition and I am having an idea to see if I can slowly modify this bike to be like a scrambler style that allows me to do some off-roading sometimes. I don't have rich mechanic knowledge related to motorcycle modification but I really want to learn more.

I have been reading some articles about building a scrambler project and found Ryca has some parts for this. But I would love to have some suggestions from everybody here about where to start because this is my first time doing this. And feel free to share your scrambler project here!

Thank you!

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by Serowbot on 10/23/20 at 10:13:37

Mine is honestly more show than go as far as off-roading goes, but I think it's about as far as you can go without welding and big expense.
I was going for a vintage Brit-bike scramble look.
Superbike bars would help but I had trouble getting through my side gate with them... so I went with narrower drag bars.
I stuck with street tires because in my experience there's too much cupping wear on DP tires ridden on streets.

Basically, raise the rear of the tank and the front of the seat to get a straighter line... 12" Intruder shocks to raise the rear.
Decruiserfies the bikes lines.
Decruiserfies.. ::)

PS.. Welcome to SS.Com

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by Serowbot on 10/23/20 at 10:23:45

left side

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by tzutzu42 on 10/23/20 at 13:20:30

Your bike looks great! Love how it looks. Thanks for sharing, I will get a 12" intruder shocks to raise the seat.

Did you change your entire exhaust system to make it upswept or use an adapter something like that? Also, is it better to reduce the weight of the bike for non-serious off-roading? I am thinking to change the tires to dual sport tire as well.

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by zipidachimp on 10/24/20 at 01:07:10

Another hockey puck!!!!!!!!
Cheers! 8-)

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by Dave on 10/24/20 at 04:46:25

637A67642226202524170 wrote:

I am thinking to change the tires to dual sport tire as well.

You will be able to find a dual sport tire to fit the front......there isn't much of anything available that will fit the 15" rear rim.

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by ohiomoto on 10/25/20 at 05:45:38

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1371091600

http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/911ee19f179ced45269a9ab158aff22b.jpg

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by ohiomoto on 10/25/20 at 05:53:05

I did a similar build. You'll want to lower the forks by 2", add an 18" rear wheel, a standard seat, tracker bars and mid-controls. That's pretty much the RYCA blueprint.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1472222031/0

http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/IMG_20170402_135913595_001.jpg

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by MMRanch on 10/26/20 at 09:47:39

ohiomoto

Do ya remember what fuel tank you used ? Does it hold more fuel ? :-?

It looks GREAT ! Reminds me of the 1970 in a fond way . :)

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by Serowbot on 10/26/20 at 12:12:14

Lemme' guess...
74' Gt185?...
2.64 gallons
Looks super, Ohio... 8-)
http://https://www.caferacer.net/attachments/20130730_134454-1-jpg.2996/

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by ohiomoto on 10/27/20 at 07:44:29

Yes sir!

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by LANCER on 10/27/20 at 10:51:27

I would have liked to had the GT185, my first bike was a '66 Suzuki 150 2-stroke twin.
It was fun but always wanted more power. 8-)

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by MMRanch on 10/27/20 at 20:16:26

Why don't we have access to fun little bikes like that anymore ? How close can we get to that 185 twin now days ? Without going "High-Tech"

I had the Honda CD175 , w/single carb and flaired fenders.

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/28/20 at 04:56:25

Friend o mine had a GT380, he let me ride it a few times, but I couldn't be gone more than a few minutes,, kinda had to stay close enough for him to hear it,,
It felt good, not a fear of it getting away from ya, no idea how it acted at fifty and up, but for across town stuff, I'd call it solid,, but they don't make that kinda bike any more,,
Ohhh, wait,,
That's what we are moaning about innit?

Yamaha RD 400 anyone?

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by LANCER on 10/28/20 at 05:35:05

Suzuki 500 Titan

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/28/20 at 08:19:00

Looks like a desirable machine..

Suzuki T500 Titan Years produced: 1968-1976 Claimed power: 47hp @ 7,000rpm Top speed: 105mph (observed) Engine type: 492cc 2-stroke air-cooled parallel twin Weight (dry): 408lb (185kg) Price then: $899 (1970) Price now: $1,400-$3,000 MPG: 50mpg (observed) From the mid-Sixties to the mid-Seventies, 2-stroke motorcycles ruled the roost.

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by MMRanch on 10/28/20 at 08:50:18

with all the new tech. and advancements we have ... two of my modern machines still are :

48 HP - 50 mpg - 412# - Guzzi V7II
50 HP - 50 mpg - 440# Kawasaki W650

maybe we ain't so advanced after all ? ::)

and not to leave the Savage out - 30HP - 50 mpg - 360#
....................................

Anybody have a Suzuki TU250 ?

or

One of the newer RE Twins ?

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by LANCER on 10/28/20 at 12:20:57

342B2D2A3730013101392B276C5E0 wrote:

The Titan was one of those motorcycles I had always wanted.

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by Dave on 10/28/20 at 14:49:34

Back in 1972 when I was in high school I worked part time at a Suzuki dealer at Action Sports Cycles in Alliance, Ohio. I would take the motorcycles out of the crates and assemble them. The T500 Titan was a cool bike and we had one customer who had a blue bike with 40,000 miles on it that looked and ran like new. At the time that seemed like a lot of miles on a motorcycle.

I have a couple of friends who currently own them - but neither of them run. The crank seals have gone bad and need to be replaced. This is a big job as the crank needs to come out, and the crankshaft needs to be taken apart to replace the seals between the left/right cylinders. Taking the crankshaft apart and putting it back together is not a job for amateurs.

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by Serowbot on 10/28/20 at 16:44:32

I had a 2-stroke Hodaka...
Always carried 2 spare spark plugs.
I think my lube paranoia made me overcompensate.
Cursed by caution.
Better to foul than strike out.

4-strokes make me feel safe... :)

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by ohiomoto on 10/28/20 at 18:31:27

425D5B5C41467747774F5D511A280 wrote:

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I had a73 when I was a 20 year old kid. Thing was a screamer. Fun to ride but the vibrations made your whole body numb after a couple of hours of riding.

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by Edub on 10/29/20 at 00:07:35

7671707674766D76190 wrote:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1371091600

http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/911ee19f179ced45269a9ab158aff22b.jpg

My two favorite builds in the same thread; this one and yours, Ohiomoto! This build lurks in my dreams, I can't shake the urge to build a scrambler. I'll be looking for a new project myself post-coronavirus. Are there any other scrambler builds out there?

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by Edub on 10/29/20 at 00:12:52

Found this one on YouTube from Poland:

https://youtu.be/XnXQsOuZ0wk

I hope others will add links to others here!

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by Dave on 10/29/20 at 03:53:21

Edub:

Well the engine and lower forward part of the frame is Savage. So is the battery box and air cleaner assembly. The electric decompression solenoid was moved down and forward on the frame to make room for the fuel tank.

The front forks, hand controls and handlebars, seat and upper rear frame, swing arm, and both wheels and brake assemblies are from something else.

This may be the best way to actually get suspension that works well off road.

Title: Re: Savage Scrambler Style?
Post by Edub on 10/29/20 at 09:25:29

I hear you, I for one am not a good enough off road rider to want a serious dirt bike; if I wanted one, they’re really easy to find out here in AZ. I’m thinking more along the lines of a decent gravel road bike. We have a lot of gravel roads out here, and I’d like to be able to ride more of these without having it become a white-knuckle affair.