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Message started by zipidachimp on 10/18/20 at 12:06:10

Title: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by zipidachimp on 10/18/20 at 12:06:10

Sold my stock '08 S40 last week, leaving me with just the '08 hotrod. Thought I wanted a 2 cyl to replace it, but am already regretting selling it.
Some nice '11s or '12s on C-list here. Can't decide. Physically 76, mentally 16.
Cheers! 8-)
ps: lusting for a RE-650 or MG-V7
pps: Am I the only one that thinks the Rebel 500 is the world's ugliest bike? Honda really goofed on this one.

Title: Re: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by Serowbot on 10/18/20 at 12:24:24

I can't believe you're older than me.
I'm mentally 12... :-?

Title: Re: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by Dave on 10/18/20 at 13:38:07

Stock S40/LS650's have a lot going for them - provided you are not doing lots of interstate riding at the current 75+ mph that the prevailing traffic flow requires.

I am not a fan of the Rebel 500 looks - but Honda was trying to capture the entry level cruiser market.  If they had made it into a standard bike like the Suzuki T250 or the Yamaha SR400.....I would have like it better (but still not bought one).

A mid sized twin has a lot going for them.  My little Ninja 250 had the same HP as the Savage but could easily maintain 80mph all day long on the interstate.  Twins lack the low end torque that a single has - but they make up for it in being able to run at higher speeds.

I am not sure what style bike you want.  If I was looking at a used naked bike right now.....I would seriously consider the Honda NT650.  Funny thing about this bike is that the bikes sell for about the same price they cost when new.

https://www.canyonchasers.net/2013/02/the-amazing-honda-hawk-gt-nt650/

Title: Re: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by MMRanch on 10/18/20 at 18:36:35

zipidachimp

ps: lusting for a RE-650 or MG-V7
pps: Am I the only one that thinks the Rebel 500 is the world's ugliest bike? Honda really goofed on this one.

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Yea , The NEW - Honda Rebels are not much to look at with that oversize front tire and all Blacked out the way they are !    I'll bet they are easy to ride ... but being so UGLY , its amazing they sell any of them.    

If they had of made an air cooled version of the 250 in 500cc , I'd have one now.   But they seem to think everyone wants the most HP and Liquid cooled to go with that HP.  
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As it is : I wanted a Twin Royal Enfield Interceptor 650  , or something like it.
I came across a barn-find Kawasaki W-650 a month ago.  Its a year 2000 with 13K-miles on it.   Now that I've got it up and going its easy to like.   Its a 360 deg. crank and reminds me of a 1971 Honda 350 twin I had long ago , but this one makes 50HP.   It's under bored with a 74mm bore and a 83 stroke , so it can get down to 1200 rpm in high gear and still smoothly pull off again.  Easy and smooth , but between 5k and 7.5k it pulls like a two stroke.  :)
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For twice the money I could have got a new RE - twin ...  ::)

I've got a Guzzi V-7II 2016 (bought it new) , (the year before they went all "High-Tech") I've put 18k happy miles on it , its just broke in good  :)

At one point I had a 2017 Guzzi Roamer V-9 (Put 7k-miles on it).   It shifted like a farm tractor so I got rid of it.   I understand the new V-7III have the same problem ???  Try one out for yourself.
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Doing things again , I'd just buy the RE Interceptor .

 

Title: Re: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by zipidachimp on 10/18/20 at 18:44:47

Dave: way back in another universe, I owned an Ascot VT500 twin, great bike. The NT650 was a natural upgrade but circumstances said no.
My knees demand I stay away from anything approaching "rear set" style footpegs, so my choices are limited.
I may even end up with a newer S40! Then all my mods begin again!
At least I didn't lose any money on the sale after 4 years!
Cheers! 8-)

Title: Re: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by Ruttly on 10/18/20 at 21:39:52

The Honda is UGLY ! You might want to say it is FUGLY , Do I need to spell it out for you ?
I’m sure it is a great bike but it’s FUGLYNESS seems to block out the creative vision it would take to modify it into a better lookin bike !  ;D ;D ;D

I’m likin the new CB350 Thumper , just not sure if it coming here(USA)

Title: Re: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by jcstokes on 10/18/20 at 21:54:52

Zippi with all the adventurous spirit of youth, I'm only 70 physically, I don't know what you mean by metally, metal is a generally regarded as a ferrous or non ferrous element. In my considered youthful opinion you should seriously contemplate a mid 1970's Jawa 350, strong economical and more or less reliable ignition system. A can of WD40 in the 9 inch  man sized pressure pack with red knob will ensure absolute ignition in all weathers can be easily carried for wet days. Mind you I've never need one after nearly 54000 miles on the S40.

Title: Re: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by zipidachimp on 10/19/20 at 02:45:56

JC: I'm meNtal, not metal. I went to school with a guy who rode a Jawa 350 30 miles each way to his home. Nice bike.
Could be tempted by a CB500f, GS500 or even a newer S40.
I'll wait until I see hurting dealers start chopping prices to move stock.
The covid dark cloud might bring a sunny day.  Sorry if any of you have been affected.
Cheers! 8-)

Title: Re: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 10/19/20 at 06:29:22

COVID caused an increase in motorcycle sales. The prevailing theory is that people were looking for more isolated means of transportation.

I think the RE650 is an outstanding bike and value.

I wish I still had every bike I've ever had.

Title: Re: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/19/20 at 06:36:45

I went looking for a Jon boat.
No new ones available. Sold out, production, limited or stopped, IDK. Found a used one, just because I drive by it and knew it was sitting there, unused in the last couple of years.
Lots of things that were readily available before just aren't easy to get now.

Title: Re: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by verslagen1 on 10/19/20 at 09:17:42


446362627A6F160 wrote:
The Honda is UGLY ! You might want to say it is FUGLY , Do I need to spell it out for you ?
I’m sure it is a great bike but it’s FUGLYNESS seems to block out the creative vision it would take to modify it into a better lookin bike !  ;D ;D ;D

I’m likin the new CB350 Thumper , just not sure if it coming here(USA)


Yes, I wonder if I can steal the wheels...
http://https://comoto.imgix.net/blog_content_image/image/70337/gallery/CB350-3.jpg?w=635&dpr=1.25&auto=format

Title: Re: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by zipidachimp on 10/19/20 at 20:13:25

re: CB350 at the right price I'm a buyer!

Also considering a 2012 at almost the same price as the 2008 I just sold! Seriously!
Cheers!  8-)
ps: my 2014 battery in my other S40 just failed, a month before end of riding season!
Rats! >:(

Title: Re: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by Dave on 10/20/20 at 04:46:57

That little CB350 is sweet......unfortunately I don't see it coming to the US or selling well in the US.

A single cylinder 350 just isn't fast enough to be a practicable motorcycle in the US.  If a motorcycle can't go 70mph easily - it just won't keep up with highway traffic safely.  If you live in a small town or only ride on City streets it could likely do fine.

The USA is a small market, and in many parts of the world a 350cc motorcycle is considered to be a "large" motorcycle.  That is one of the reasons the Savage was a 400cc bike in parts of the world.....Royal Enfield sold 20 times as many 350cc bikes as they did their 500cc version of the Bullet.

It would be cool if Honda could make that CB350 in a 500cc single or twin for the US.......even a 350 twin would have good enough performance to travel on the highway.  

Title: Re: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by LANCER on 10/20/20 at 05:44:41

There are many city dwellers who also like light weight two wheel transportation in town.

Title: Re: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by MMRanch on 10/20/20 at 08:14:37

 
It would be cool if Honda could make that CB350 in a 500cc single or twin for the US..  

That same bike in a air cooled 500cc single or twin  8-)
I'd trade the W-650 for a 500 twin model of it , just to get away from the wire wheels.

I'll take one !    Long as the same wheels come with it !  ;)

Title: Re: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by zipidachimp on 10/20/20 at 19:48:04

That CB350 shape is what I was hoping the Rebel 500 would be.
Most OEMs, cars or bikes, have made regrettable decisions on models, which is one reason we have such a large aftermarket.
Cheers!  8-)
That CB350 is screaming for a 500 twin!

Title: Re: Withdrawal symptoms !
Post by Dave on 10/23/20 at 05:17:01


5F525D5056410104330 wrote:
There are many city dwellers who also like light weight two wheel transportation in town.



The US is an incredibly small market when compared to the World Market, and for some reason a lot of the bikes that are made for the rest of the word never come to the US.  That seems a bit odd, as the emission and noise standards are being met for all new models, and any new model would be able to meet the US requirements.

The Royal Enfield Bullet 350cc version sold 20 times more bikes than the 500cc version - as the majority of buyers in the world are in countries where a 350cc bike is big and a 500cc bike is not needed.  The redesigned bullet that meets emission standards is only available in the 350cc version.....Royal Enfield just didn't feel they sold enough 500cc bikes to warrant the redesign of the larger bike.

 http://www.theridesofar.com/2020/01/the-u-s-market-is-increasingly-unimportant-in-the-motorcycle-world/

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