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Message started by eau de sauvage on 09/29/20 at 20:05:46

Title: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by eau de sauvage on 09/29/20 at 20:05:46

That was absolutely gruesome. Trump just came across as the utter nutcase that he is. Impossible to see any still undecided voters who would be persuaded that they should vote for Trump after that abject, yet entirely predictable performance.

You could see that all he had in his artillery was trying to goad Biden, but the sleeping giant woke up and bit the dopey bear. This is what happens when all Trump listens to is the fawning sycophants Carlson, Hannity and Ingrahms, and Fox and Friends, he was completely outfoxed.

Biden used his time well, talking to camera. A masterful performance, gonna be amusing to see how Fox and Trump try to spin this.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by WebsterMark on 09/30/20 at 05:50:06

Trump was idiotic, no doubt. But if you think Biden‘s performance was masterful, you’re a xxxxxxxxxxxxxx. I can’t say it. Our own Chris Wallace moderator, Sew, will zap me. Our Aussie friend can say anything to anyone with impunity and Sew will type his stupid message about being the person your dog thinks you are. Everybody else however gets zapped.

Chris Wallace did an absolutely terrible job. But again,  that was all Trump’s fault. He knows Wallace hates him. He should have known Wallace would cover for Biden and throw him lifeline after lifeline.

In his first few sentences, Biden was stumbling for words. Biden is a stupid, semi-senile old man and anybody could’ve roasted him alive. Anybody except Donald J Trump. He is his own worst enemy.

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Post by Serowbot on 09/30/20 at 08:46:29

Quote of the evening...

“Stand back and stand by” - Trump

Proud Boys say they are 'standing down and standing by' after Trump's debate callout
Proud Boys after Trump remark: 'Well sir, we're ready'

Twist that any way you want,.. all Trump had to say is "I condemn violent racist hate groups"...
He instead said, "Stand back and stand by"
Those are indisputably marching orders, not condemnation.

He won the white racist vote with that.
He already had it.
:-?

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by WebsterMark on 09/30/20 at 09:24:49

You’re an idiot if you think that’s what he meant. You’re an idiot if you believe he said there were fine people on both sides.

Trump was terrible and he should’ve let that senile old idiot dig his grave but Trump can’t keep his mouth shut. You’ll get no argument from me on that.

It was an atrocious night for Trump but pretending he’s a Nazi sympathizer and an hard core racist delivering orders to a group waiting to attack is pathetic.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/30/20 at 09:25:27

e won the white racist vote with that.
He already had it.

Youre white,,
And we are all racists,, or so Ive been told,,

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by Serowbot on 09/30/20 at 09:28:00


0F3D3A2B2C3D2A15392A33580 wrote:
You’re an idiot if you think that’s what he meant. You’re an idiot if you believe he said there were fine people on both sides.

Gee,... could that possibly be construed as a personal insult?...
No,... because we don't do that here.
Serow

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by Eegore on 09/30/20 at 09:49:28


"It was an atrocious night for Trump but pretending he’s a Nazi sympathizer and an hard core racist delivering orders to a group waiting to attack is pathetic."


 I agree but I am aware of a number of people that have posted that they interpret it as a statement to get ready for war.  A few think it was a green light to go assault people, or at least they posted it that way.

 So no I don't think Trump was saying he is racist and wants violence, but I do think people, on both sides, will see it that way.  Delusional of course, but that's just how it goes.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/30/20 at 10:09:01

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/huge-hispanic-voters-telemundo-say-president-trump-overwhelmingly-won-debate-66-34/

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by WebsterMark on 09/30/20 at 10:42:31


2335223F27323F24500 wrote:
[quote author=0F3D3A2B2C3D2A15392A33580 link=1601435146/0#3 date=1601483089]You’re an idiot if you think that’s what he meant. You’re an idiot if you believe he said there were fine people on both sides.

Gee,... could that possibly be construed as a personal insult?...
No,... because we don't do that here.
Serow
[/quote]

I identify as an Australian leftist which means I’m allowed to say anything without repercussions.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by WebsterMark on 09/30/20 at 10:45:15


4666646C7166030 wrote:

"It was an atrocious night for Trump but pretending he’s a Nazi sympathizer and an hard core racist delivering orders to a group waiting to attack is pathetic."


 I agree but I am aware of a number of people that have posted that they interpret it as a statement to get ready for war.  A few think it was a green light to go assault people, or at least they posted it that way.

 So no I don't think Trump was saying he is racist and wants violence, but I do think people, on both sides, will see it that way.  Delusional of course, but that's just how it goes.


And ultimately, all Trump’s fault. All he had to do was shut up and let Biden show himself to be an aging senile leftist who made a career out of not doing anything. But Trump couldn’t do it, he just couldn’t shut up. and it might cost him the election. Hard to say right now. If I were Joe Biden, I’d find some excuse, any excuse to not do the other two debates.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by eau de sauvage on 09/30/20 at 14:38:51

No Trump is not a Nazi sympathiser, but he is a racist, always has been, and his call out to the PB, was simply that he'll suck up to absolutely anyone who praises him. Anyone.

He's already lost the election, of that there's no doubt, and it's performances like this one that will be responsible for the Democrats gaining a Senate majority.

His attack on the very democracy that is America, flawed democracy though it may be, will scare most Americans into thinking about what he could do to the country with four more years of unfettered insanity.

Hilary would have won the election but for less than 80,000 votes in Mi Oh and Pe, and they have swung back mightily, so I fail to see how this will be anything other than a landslide. Which explains Trump's all out assault on an imaginary election fraud issue and a threat to use the Supreme Court. But all this will achieve is to further lower the status of America on the world stage.

Biden's best moment of the night was being able to dodge the question about packing the courts. Which if he gains a Senate majority he absolutely must do.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/30/20 at 14:48:39

Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Reply #10 - Today at 22:38:51Alert Board Moderator about this Post! Quote No Trump is not a Nazi sympathiser, but he is a racist, always has been, and his call out to the PB, was simply that he'll suck up to absolutely anyone who praises him. Anyone.

He's already lost the election, of that there's no doubt, and it's performances like this one that will be responsible for the Democrats gaining a Senate majority.




His attack on the very democracy that is America, flawed democracy though it may be, will scare most Americans into thinking about what he could do to the country with four more years of unfettered insanity.

Huhh? I guess you Missed what democrats have done to so many formerly fine cities,,Lets hand them the country!

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by eau de sauvage on 09/30/20 at 15:32:44

I guess you Missed what democrats have done ...

Well yes, I can confirm I do not read any of the rightwing nut job sites you are so fond of quoting, so I am ignorant of the sludge that your mind wades through that ends up being spewed up into posts on this forum. And no that was not an invitation to enlighten me further.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by verslagen1 on 10/01/20 at 11:04:11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=un9x-DjTMT0&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=schmoyoho

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by zevenenergie on 10/01/20 at 12:22:42

I am from the Netherlands, my neighbor is Germany, we have intensely suffered the consequences of a leader and fanatical followers here.

Phasism and racial hatred have left deep sores in europe. And still we have a sense of disbelief at how such an inhuman thing could have happened as extermination camps.

I went to Auschwitz 2 years ago, the scale on with people were slaughtered like animals, Is really unbelievable, if you haven't seen it with your own eyes.
A camp bigger than the eye can reach.

I've seen hills of glasses, mountains of suitcases, piles of human hair.
The energy that hangs there goes through the marrow and bone.

This could happen because it is in human nature, it has happened, it is happening worldwide right now, and it will happen again.

We heard it all before:

http://https://i.imgur.com/UkJJ8qql.jpg

I think if you had only half a man as a candidate he would have let Trump pay the full amount for that comment.

But those kind of presidential candidates are extinct in your country.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/01/20 at 12:29:19

And somehow Trump is THAT?
He SUED the city so he could allow blacks and jews to join his gold=f club,, FIRST club in the area to allow such.
He was THE first guy to hire a woman to run his high rise project,
The lies told against him have evidence to the contrary,, but,
That doesnt stop crazy

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by zevenenergie on 10/01/20 at 13:38:08

https://imgur.com/gallery/zPU64x1

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/01/20 at 14:22:32

Your choosing to ignore the facts doesnt make your opinion truth.
DID HE or Did HE NOT
Make HIS golf club the FIRST in the area to accept blacks and Jews?
ANSWER THAT..

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by eau de sauvage on 10/01/20 at 14:34:00


485B4C4D525F595B500F3E0 wrote:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un9x-DjTMT0[/media]



That was pretty good, then there's this...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ign_vZupjno[/media]

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by zevenenergie on 10/01/20 at 14:36:44

@justin_o_guy2

Your missing the point.

Hitler was rejected from the art academy, he did not want to live an average life. and entered politics.
He carried a deep pain and a deep resentment, he wanted appreciation.
He had good intentions like so many people have. But look how it turned out.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by eau de sauvage on 10/01/20 at 14:39:42


342B2D2A3730013101392B276C5E0 wrote:
Your choosing to ignore the facts doesnt make your opinion truth.
DID HE or Did HE NOT
Make HIS golf club the FIRST in the area to accept blacks and Jews?
ANSWER THAT..


Why would anyone try an answer such a fcuking inane implication as that? Hey Hitler was part Jewish, so he couldn't be an anti semite? Right?. I can't tell any longer if you're simply a racist white supremecist, or just a complete tool.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/01/20 at 14:49:14

HEY,, Morons,,
TRUMP SUED the CITY in order to be able to ALLOW Blacks and Jews to be members of his club,,
How the EVERLUVVINFUKK is it possible to keep screamin Racist NOW?

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by zevenenergie on 10/01/20 at 14:49:20

http://https://i.imgur.com/sgG4Iz6l.jpg

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by zevenenergie on 10/01/20 at 14:55:51


26393F3825221323132B39357E4C0 wrote:
HEY,, Morons,,
TRUMP SUED the CITY in order to be able to ALLOW Blacks and Jews to be members of his club,,
How the EVERLUVVINFUKK is it possible to keep screamin Racist NOW?


It is a nice action from him, but both possibilities are possible. Just look at priests who abuse children. On the one hand they help people and on the other hand they screw up children for life.
It's not that black and white.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/01/20 at 15:03:19

OHH ForFuxSake..
REally?

Youre one screwed up dude,,

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by Eegore on 10/01/20 at 15:03:38

"TRUMP SUED the CITY in order to be able to ALLOW Blacks and Jews to be members of his club,,"

 No he didn't.   Look it up from somewhere other than Facebook, or Conservative pick and choose what they show you websites.  Call people morons when your information is right.

 When I say "right" I mean accurate, not "Well he may not have sued the city to allow Jews and Blacks but he did sue the city, and he also, prior to that allow Blacks and Jews into his club."  

 Don't pretend after seeing the truth, that the original statement is technically correct because it is very blatantly saying he SUED to ALLOW.  Don't leave that part out.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/01/20 at 15:07:22

Trump then opened Mar-a-Lago as a private club and — as a business move and without having to go to court — allowed Jews and African Americans, making it different from most private clubs in Palm Beach.

See the sources for

Ohh,, I beg your forgiveness,,
A good racist could have just let it be,, and gone with what was already common practice,,But, being a good racist,, he bucked the trend,,
Still MOrons,,

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by Eegore on 10/01/20 at 15:08:28


When I say "right" I mean accurate, not "Well he may not have sued the city to allow Jews and Blacks but he did sue the city, and he also, prior to that allow Blacks and Jews into his club."  

Don't pretend after seeing the truth, that the original statement is technically correct because it is very blatantly saying he SUED to ALLOW.  Don't leave that part out.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by zevenenergie on 10/01/20 at 15:30:32

@justin_o_guy2


Letting go of a poit of view is difficult.

And the first time is always the hardest:

https://imgur.com/gallery/pfKueKZ

:D

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by eau de sauvage on 10/01/20 at 15:39:24

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/07/politics/trump-larry-king-central-park-five/index.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/17/central-park-five-donald-trump-jogger-rape-case-new-york

Trump has been a vile, obvious and despicable racist all his working life.

Even after DNA exonerates them he still takes out adverts calling for the execution of five black youths.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by eau de sauvage on 10/02/20 at 02:09:57

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSxiyGljWs[/media]

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by eau de sauvage on 10/02/20 at 02:13:48

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJRH6a4rzkU[/media]

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by MnSpring on 10/02/20 at 06:35:01

eau de sauvage posted a link on Today at 4:13am:
Trying to discredit Trump.

Yet right after that was the the truth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Tm-hAK69A&feature=emb_rel_end

Start at 1:30 (for the time challenged)

Only a snag dole bludger Drongo, would think posting a video, of people defending themselves, (which of course is not shown) is equal to 1,000's of cell phone videos of Thieves, Arsonists,  and Violent people, that call themselves, Antifa/BLM/protesters..

And Ding-Dong/Ho-Ho, er Biden/Harris, DEFENDS and SUPPORTS them !





Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by zevenenergie on 10/02/20 at 06:59:15

What a difference it would make if the financial system aimed at people's well-being.
That would make politics completely redundant.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by WebsterMark on 10/02/20 at 07:23:05


6E7162717A717A7166737D71140 wrote:
What a difference it would make if the financial system aimed at people's well-being.
That would make politics completely redundant.


It is aimed at people's well being. The USA is an example of such. We have the most prosperous society in history. No one starves to death in the US. The vast majority of the homeless are in that position because of mental illness, not due to lack of economic opportunity. In the US, obesity is often an indication of poverty as calories are as low priced here as anywhere.

A financial system aimed at financial equality is socialism and its variation which all inevitable lead to the opposite.

Some European counties often get the label of socialist but as someone who works for a very capitalistic Swedish company, I promise you Sweden and neighboring nations are as competitive from an economics / business point of view as anyone.

Saying capitalism is responsible for poverty is like saying more people have been killed in wars because of religion that all other reasons combined. Both are foolish statements.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by philthymike on 10/02/20 at 07:42:37

How about socialism being the poster child of abject economic collapse? Over and over and over...

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/legendary-economist-on-biggest-socialism-myth

Anyone espousing the idea that we'll actually get it right this time needs to be put in a straight jacket inside a rubber room and subjected to electroshock therapy and a lobotomy.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by MnSpring on 10/02/20 at 07:45:33


7B6477646F646F6473666864010 wrote:
What a difference it would make if the financial system aimed at people's well-being.  That would make politics completely redundant.

Kinna like Venezuela ?
Where the Gimme, Gimme, skyrocketed when Oil was high.
Then when it was low, the massive social spending of the Chavez, Socialist regime, plunged Venezuela to great depths.
Now it is well on it's way to be a full blown Dictatorship !

Same direction the USA is headed.

Unless the 'real' Democrats pull their head out of their AZZ,
and STOP,
THE ULTRA LIBERAL, FAIRY DUST SPRINKLING, DUMB F&%^EN IDIOTS,
FROM ALLOWING THE LINING, OF
Ding-Dong/Ho-Ho's (And all of their, 'good', buddies) POCKETS.

Just like Chavez  DID,
and Maduro is DOING !




Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by MnSpring on 10/02/20 at 08:18:57


4D555451495544505456583D0 wrote:
... https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/legendary-economist-on-biggest-socialism-myth
Anyone espousing the idea that we'll actually get it right this time needs to be put in a straight jacket inside a rubber room and subjected to electroshock therapy and a lobotomy.  


Just like Communism,
on paper, and-in a pure form, it looks good.


Remember, 'Communes', when the human factor was employed ?

Summer, the Wood Cutters sit on the porch smoking Dubies.
While the Guarders are swatting flies and toiling away in the hot sun.
Winter, the Gardeners, are sitting by the stove smoking Dubies,
(and eating fresh Strawberries)
While the Wood Cutters are freezing their azz off cutting wood.

THEN the, "Leader', is selling the extra Strawberries and wood,
and putting the money in his/her pocket.

Tell us all again,
how wonderful Socialism/Communism is !




Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by philthymike on 10/02/20 at 08:57:47


6645785B5942454C2B0 wrote:
[i]


Tell us all again,
how wonderful Socialism/Communism is !


Watch the movie Mr. Jones. It's about a reporter who asked the question why is Communist Russia so economically prosperous in the middle of the Great Depression. So he goes to Moscow to interview Joseph Stalin and learns about the The Ukrainian famine—known as the Holodomor, from an associate who mysteriously turns up dead.
Then he sneaks into Ukraine to see for himself.

When he returns with his news the lefty news media cancels him. And to this day the event is still unknown to most of the world due to the revisionist Communist loving left who've worked hard to keep it out of education and even now work to downplay its actual history by misreporting the death toll. They're the holocaust deniers of the Communists.

Its the reason I'm here too. My great grandparents somehow managed to escape it into Poland and then to the US.

To make their Socialism economically viable Stalin resorted to man-made famines that killed millions and millions of innocent people.

Because the concept is inherently broken. The economics of it as defined by Marx and Engels is foundationally flawed. Meaning it can't be fixed. It can be propped up and made to look functional but usually at great human cost and only for awhile before inevitability rears its ugly head.

People who believe this broken crap are themselves broken. And also guilty by association to crimes against humanity on a scale the mind cannot begin to comprehend. Whether they know it or not. And for the one's that do know it ought to be imprisoned for life.
Or at the very least exiled to Venezuela.

Why we suffer to let these fools live among us is unimaginable. They're the ones wrecking this country and making a mockery of our legal system while brainwashing the uncritical thinking masses into believing the most absurdly contradictory bullcrap ever invented.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by MnSpring on 10/02/20 at 09:12:32


425A5B5E465A4B5F5B5957320 wrote:
 Watch the movie Mr. Jones.

If ONLY, one could set down Ding-Dong and Ho-Ho,
and make them watch it.

(As for the mentally challenged like the tt clones,
Just watch the Trailer)


A-Yep, exactaly where Biden/Harris will be taking this Nation.



Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by philthymike on 10/02/20 at 09:27:24


12310C2F2D3631385F0 wrote:
[quote author=425A5B5E465A4B5F5B5957320 link=1601435146/30#38 date=1601654267]  Watch the movie Mr. Jones.

If ONLY, one could set down Ding-Dong and Ho-Ho,
and make them watch it.

(As for the mentally challenged like the tt clones,
Just watch the Trailer)


A-Yep, exactaly where Biden/Harris will be taking this Nation.


[/quote]

It's a matter of scale. For Socialism to be made functional temporarily in a country as big as ours their only option will be famines like in Russia and China. The larger the population the bigger the famines death toll needs to be in order to balance the books.
In China the death toll was so great they used the dead for fertilizer.
Mmmm Chinese take-out.

But seriously though there's a proportional link to population size and necessary death toll to make Marxist Socialism workable for any length of time. It's an economic system with human blood for its currency.

Go Burnie!

For further edification
https://www.history.com/.amp/news/ukrainian-famine-stalin
It seems relatively unbiased despite using the lowest death toll estimates. The high estimates go up to 9 million but the Israeli government throws tantrums of any death toll estimates that exceed those of the holocaust.

Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by MnSpring on 10/02/20 at 10:32:07

Exactly the road, Ding-Dong/HO-HO, will follow,
(As their puppet masters tell them)

"...King Victor Emmanuel III requested that Mussolini start forming a government in the hopes that he could restore order and prevent a communist takeover. During the next few years, he worked to form an effective government and in 1925, he officially became dictator of Italy..."

"...Immediately after declaring himself dictator, the country became state-controlled and Mussolini began restoring order in Italy by putting establishing programs to help the poor and improve the economy.
Although he was successful
at first
in improving his country economy-wise,
his outlawing of other political parties
and censorship of the press
interrupted the daily life of Italians. ..."


CREATE a host of problems,
get others, (media), to CREATE FEAR,
by lying for you.
Then step in and say it was all the currents  person's fault,
and that you, the new person can FIX everything !

"...Give up FREEDOM, for the sake of Security,
you will have NEITHER !!!..."




Title: Re: The Debate, Trump just got obliterated.
Post by MnSpring on 10/03/20 at 17:22:28


2B3332372F33223632303E5B0 wrote:
"...  For Socialism to be made functional temporarily in a country as big as ours their only option will be famines like in Russia and China. ..."

A interesting idea.
I believe that the wide sweeping, 'famines', can not happen here.
Because the people in the 'Country' will very easily fend for themselves and not be even close to starving.

I believe it is the people that live Inside the Beltways of the Cities, (those who have not, already have succumbed to Socialism), will succumb to, 'Starving'.

It is often said, in Many places, many times.
Take 1,000 people at random from inside the beltways of a City,
Put them in the country,
only 100 will walk out.

Take 1,000 people from Outside the beltway of a city,
Put them in the Country, woods, desert, OR City,
900 will walk out !

So if Socialism, engulfs the USA.
THEN, their will be a PHYSICAL WAR !






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