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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Rear Suspension /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1600578171 Message started by gtenginerd on 09/19/20 at 22:02:51 |
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Title: Rear Suspension Post by gtenginerd on 09/19/20 at 22:02:51 I haven't seen much info on this topic. What's the guidance for a stable cafe/scrambler build? I haven't even gotten to rear wheel/tire options yet. |
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Title: Re: Rear Suspension Post by Dave on 09/20/20 at 04:51:16 340mm tall shocks are about the longest you can get without having issues with belt tension (chain tension) that result from the swing arm being at too severe of an angle. You still need to adjust the belt a bit loose as it tightens up when you get on the bike and the shocks compress. You can run an 18" rear wheel - a 130/70-18 tire will fit inside teh swing arm......however that size tire is too wide for the 2.50 -18 rim that most people install. I am using a 3.50-18 rear wheel as it is the recommended width for the 130/70 tire on my cafe. For a "dirt" tire you may want to have a smaller rim and a taller tire......check and see what tires are available in 17" diameter and what size rim width they fit. I have run 110/90 and 120/80 tires on a 2.50-18 rim and they provide plenty of traction on the Savage.,...most vintage bikes with 2 - 3 times the HP of the Savage used 110 or 120 tires (Norton, Triumph, etc) - the wider tires may not be desirable if you end up riding in the dirt. A lot of tires are available in the vintage 4.00-18 size, and that tire fits on narrow rims as a result of the tall tire sidewall - however the tire has a larger OD and it may not fit in the swing arm with the stock belt......check the tire OD before you buy one. |
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Title: Re: Rear Suspension Post by gtenginerd on 09/20/20 at 07:19:02 Other than shock length and wheel/tire dimension is there anything else to consider? Like... Shocks I see ranging from $60-400 / pair. What's the difference? Would it be a pita to get an aluminum rim and relace the existing hub? |
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Title: Re: Rear Suspension Post by Gary_in_NJ on 09/20/20 at 16:01:41 Check post #3 in this thread: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1498156004/0 And post number 76 & 77 in this thread. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1421689358/75 If you want more rear suspension travel, an 18" rear wheel and shocks with an eye-to-eye length of 13" will get you 4-1/4" of travel at the rear wheel. That's a significant difference from the OEM set-up. My bike is quite comfortable (I'm about 175 pounds). |
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Title: Re: Rear Suspension Post by gtenginerd on 09/20/20 at 18:48:26 Thanks again, Gary. Got the front springs swapped this wknd. Has anyone ordered RFY shocks from Chris recently? Does any information need to be given so they fit the S40 or are tuned for me? No real specs in order form other than oil weight. https://chrislivengood.net/cart/?cxecrt-retrieve-cart=34862 |
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Title: Re: Rear Suspension Post by Gary_in_NJ on 09/21/20 at 07:01:16 Send Chris an email. He will need to know your weight and the weight of the bike. If you have the front:rear distribution of the bike that will be helpful. |
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Title: Re: Rear Suspension Post by gtenginerd on 10/08/20 at 10:19:00 Shocks came in yesterday. Two issues I wasn't expecting. 1. Conflict between exhaust pipe and passenger footpeg. Will remove footpeg. 2. Conflict between shock reservoir and stock fender chrome accent. See image. I don't see a way to fix the fender issue without removing the rear fender completely and going ahead the seat, loop, light mods I was planning. Thoughts? |
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Title: Re: Rear Suspension Post by verslagen1 on 10/08/20 at 11:02:39 use button head bolts and put the head outside instead of in. |
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Title: Re: Rear Suspension Post by Gary_in_NJ on 10/08/20 at 11:49:30 Flip the shock. They are non-directional. |
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Title: Re: Rear Suspension Post by gtenginerd on 10/14/20 at 12:33:14 Got the shocks on. It took about 2 hours mostly due to my ignorance. I thought it would be easier to get the shocks on while the wheel was off, but I couldn't put the axle back in with them on due to the change in swing arm angle and conflict with muffler. This meant taking them off and putting back on again. Otherwise it was fairly easy. Getting the rear wheel back on can be tough. Not much room between the swingarm and exhaust now, but I've ordered a new exhaust already. The bike is dirty as hell after my black hands were all over it, but attached the pic. |
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Title: Re: Rear Suspension Post by verslagen1 on 10/14/20 at 13:35:56 I put the nut on the muffler side. |
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Title: Re: Rear Suspension Post by gtenginerd on 10/14/20 at 15:59:34 I was using a 15/16 socket on the nut, but I could see switching and using adjustable wrench. Is that what you do? |
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Title: Re: Rear Suspension Post by Gary_in_NJ on 10/14/20 at 17:04:41 Just use the proper size box end/open end combination wrench |
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Title: Re: Rear Suspension Post by verslagen1 on 10/14/20 at 19:11:09 6370616A636D6A617660040 wrote:
I just lean on the pillion it goes down far enough that I can get a socket on it. |
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