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Message started by overland on 09/14/20 at 14:01:52

Title: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by overland on 09/14/20 at 14:01:52

Hello all, getting ready to swap out my stock petcock for the Raptor 5LP-24500-01. My question is; do you plug both ports of the vacuum line? found a great  tutorial here but it only speaks of plugging or sealing the port on the right side of the bike. My bike is a 2011 s40. Thanks ::)

Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by overland on 09/14/20 at 15:16:08

Duh! figured it out, the raptor petcock doesn't have a vacuum port.  ;) :D ;D

Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by Papa Bear on 09/15/20 at 16:22:54

;D

Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by Serowbot on 09/16/20 at 08:13:48


173339323B3F361D5A0 wrote:
Duh! figured it out, the raptor petcock doesn't have a vacuum port.  ;) :D ;D

If you find one,... plug it anyway... ;D

Just poking you... 8-)

Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by overland on 09/17/20 at 18:40:54

Okay guys and girls, men and women,what is the defintive answer! Do I turn my raptor petcock off when I park the bike or leave it on, Seem like there are a million opinions but no definite answer. Which is it?  :-/ :(

Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by Bokobob on 09/17/20 at 19:10:10

Good for you Overland....Sometimes an innocent question may be laughable...I don't know enough to answer your question...Sometimes people flame others because they know everything...How 'bout somebody step up and give a straight answer.


Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by verslagen1 on 09/17/20 at 19:22:22

Turn it off when you are thru riding. That is to prevent flooding the carb.

Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by ckahleer on 09/17/20 at 19:51:19

Turn it off.
The point of a vacuum operated petcock is that it turns the fuel off for you. If you replace the stock vacuum unit with a manual petcock, like the Raptor, you must manually turn it off.

There is a float valve in the carburetor that regulates the amount of fuel entering the carburetor. 99.9% of the time this float valve will shut off the fuel if you forget to turn the petcock off.

.1%of the time, for various reasons, the float valve fails to stop the fuel flow and the carburetor, engine cylinder, oil pan, and garage floor flood with gas.
So turn it off when parked.

Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by overland on 09/17/20 at 20:15:20

Thanks all, Ill follow advice to turn it off when parked, seems reasonable to me. Don't want to be a victim of the 1%. Murphy's law is still in effect. :) :)

Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by Dave on 09/18/20 at 03:55:10

I turn my petcock off at the end of the riding day - but not at every stop during the day.

And......since I am really careful (obsessed) about the damage that ethanol fuel can do when it just sits in the carb and isn't being used up - I turn the petcock off when I go through the intersection about 1/2 mile from my house.  By the time I reach the end of my driveway the engine is running out of fuel and stops running, and I can coast down my driveway and into the garage.  If for some reason I don't ride my bike for a week or two.....I know there is little fuel in the float bowl that can deteriorate and corrode the aluminum float bowl.

Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by Tocsik on 09/18/20 at 07:45:48

Like Dave, I reach down and turn off the petcock a block or so from home or when first pulling into the garage at work.  My carb isn't completely empty, probably, but there's less fuel in there for sure.
If you buy the rubber caps for the vac port on the carb, check and replace every once in a while.  They tend to dry out and crack being so close to the cylinder heat.

Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/18/20 at 09:00:47

I cut the vacuum hose off and shoved a wooden dowel in which I zip tied.
Maybe not sexy , but doesnt require attention.

Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by Serowbot on 09/18/20 at 09:58:28

Definitively,... yes, turn off your pet when you park.
I don't,... but yes you should.
It also looks super cool to turn it on and off if anyone's looking.  ;D

Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by norm92de on 09/18/20 at 10:38:22

I turn off my Raptor a strategic distance from the garage so as to have very little fuel in the carb float chamber when I park the bike for any length of time.

Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by overland on 09/18/20 at 15:52:44

Thanks for the info guys, Tocsik I used the same plug you're showing, ill remember to check it once in awhile [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by Keifer on 09/19/20 at 13:33:53

Just curious for the next guy who reads this-- will fuel stabilizer prevent ethanol damage?  Most of them at least claim on the bottle to prevent ethanol related damage during storage...

Can you still get ethanol free gas anywhere in the US?

Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/20/20 at 12:55:43


5A7478777463272421110 wrote:
Just curious for the next guy who reads this-- will fuel stabilizer prevent ethanol damage?

Not sure.. But Id expect it to be a lot easier on things,,
For storage, top off the tank, drain the bowl..





 Most of them at least claim on the bottle to prevent ethanol related damage during storage...

Can you still get ethanol free gas anywhere in the US?


We have a station locally that sells it.
For storage, I can see it, Id run the last tank of corn poison, fill with straight gas, ride a while, top off,, go home and shut it down for the naptime..
NOT runnin it in anything fuel injected,, because with gas at $1.60, the Good Stuff was just over $2.00. 25% increase in price,, no notable increase in MPG,, Not DoonIt, NotDoonit,,Not prewdnt...

Use yer best George Bush, the shrub.. or schlub,, whichever ya like,,

Title: Re: raptor petcock 5LP=24500-01
Post by Dave on 09/21/20 at 03:07:51


755B57585B4C080B0E3E0 wrote:
Just curious for the next guy who reads this-- will fuel stabilizer prevent ethanol damage?  Most of them at least claim on the bottle to prevent ethanol related damage during storage...

Can you still get ethanol free gas anywhere in the US?



I am just getting back from a trip to Arkansas, and several stations stated their premium fuel grade was pure gas and had no ethanol.  Back home in KY the only way you can get ethanol free fuel is to take your gas cans to a marina and buy the gas for boats.  A few members from New York State claim their premium fuel is ethanol free.

There is a web site called "Pure Gas" that lists the local places you can buy ethanol free fuel.  It is based on the reports of users, and is not always up to date or accurate.
https://www.pure-gas.org/

Additives for the treatment of ethanol fuel can extend the time the fuel will stay stable and prevent damage for a while - but not indefinitely.  The best way to prevent damage from storage of any equipment with a carb is to drain the tank and run the engine until the carb is out of fuel.  Some people mistakenly claim that gaskets, seals, O-rings and similar pieces will dry out if no fuel is in the system - equipment stores well without fuel and most problems with dried out gaskets/seals is a result of being store stored for long periods of time in hot garages, barns or sheds.

Ethanol free gas does store a bit better than E10 fuel - but it still goes bad after an extended period.  In the old days old gasoline would varnish up the parts and leave a thick heavy and stinky slime on everything......the ethanol fuel causes corrosion and is very hard on aluminum parts.

Leaving either fuel in a steel fuel tank for extended periods can result in a rusty fuel tank......as the vent in the fuel tank allows moist air to be drawn into the fuel tank whenever there are temperature or air pressure changes.

If you are storing your Savage for just a month or two - it would be best to use an ethanol free fuel and add a fuel stabilizer.....and keep the bike in the most temperature stable place you can find.  For longer term storage I would drain the tank and carb completely.

Don't start the bike up every month unless you can ride it - running an air cooled engine while sitting still is not good, and idling the bike while leaning over on the side stand can ruin the cam and rockers as it can starve them for oil.....there is very little oil pressure and oil flow at idle speeds.

Fuel injected engines tend to store much better than equipment with carbs.  The fuel injections system is sealed and air/moisture cannot get to the fuel in the pressure side of the system.....and the tanks are often vented in a way that will prevent the vapors from polluting the environment and this helps to keep moisture out (and often the fuel tanks are made from plastic).

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