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Message started by Dennisgb on 08/30/20 at 15:38:18

Title: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by Dennisgb on 08/30/20 at 15:38:18

Spent the day assembling my S40 engine. It seems like it’s taking a long time, and things have been working against me. I finally got the piston into the cylinder. It just didn’t want to go past the oil rings. My ring compressor was all rusty from going thru the shop fire. I tried to clean it up but just didn’t feel right using it. The top two ring went in easy as pie...but the oil rings were stubborn. They would get into the chamfer at the bottom of the bore and you couldn’t tell where they needed to compress.

So I get the cylinder on but it won’t go all the way down. Couldn’t for the life of me figure out why. Parts are coming from two different engines, so things can get weird when your doing that. Finally after much swearing and a couple of breaks, I see that there is a alignment dowel in the cylinder and the crankcase hitting each other. One of them isn’t supposed to be there. Instead of two dowels there were three.

I get to the cam and chain and wrestled with that for a while. Followed the book but seemed like the chain didn’t have enough slack. Took another break and read a thread on changing cam chain. Went back to the barn and the chain popped right on  ;D

Turned the engine over multiple times and the timing lined up so good to go.

Done for today...hope to get the engine back in tomorrow.

Title: Re: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by SavageMan99 on 08/30/20 at 18:03:52

Two thumbs up and a smile.

Title: Re: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by ohiomoto on 08/30/20 at 18:40:03

It's never as easy as it should be is it.  I've rebuilt more 2-strokes than I can remember, but I really don't want to have to take this big single down.  I just want to ride.

But, sounds like you're making great progress.  Keep at it, you got this!

Title: Re: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by Dennisgb on 08/30/20 at 20:21:26

Thanks guys.

The big single isn’t really too bad. It’s pretty simple to work on...I’m just not as agile as I used to be and my eyesight is going to hell. Got to put my readers on to see what I’m doing but then I get dizzy when I look away.  ;D

I’ve done bigger more complicated engines. This is kind of like the Yamaha Raptor 660 engine I did a couple years ago, except that was water cooled and I had to tear it completely down because second gear was bad.

Title: Re: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/20 at 03:52:29

then I get dizzy when I look away.


Look away, Look away, Look away, Dizzy man.
Ohh I wish I wasnt dizzy
But I am
I amm..

Title: Re: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by Serowbot on 08/31/20 at 06:35:11

Sounds like Shakespeare had a beer... :-?

Title: Re: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by LANCER on 08/31/20 at 11:42:22

Yep, he tapped the keg for sure.  :o

Title: Re: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/20 at 12:42:20

Yeah,, thats bad, alright,, Sheesh,,
Sounded a lot funnier in my head,,

Title: Re: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by Edub on 08/31/20 at 15:53:39


5C5D5656514B5F5A380 wrote:
Spent the day assembling my S40 engine. It seems like it’s taking a long time, and things have been working against me. I finally got the piston into the cylinder. It just didn’t want to go past the oil rings. My ring compressor was all rusty from going thru the shop fire. I tried to clean it up but just didn’t feel right using it. The top two ring went in easy as pie...but the oil rings were stubborn. They would get into the chamfer at the bottom of the bore and you couldn’t tell where they needed to compress.

So I get the cylinder on but it won’t go all the way down. Couldn’t for the life of me figure out why. Parts are coming from two different engines, so things can get weird when your doing that. Finally after much swearing and a couple of breaks, I see that there is a alignment dowel in the cylinder and the crankcase hitting each other. One of them isn’t supposed to be there. Instead of two dowels there were three.

I get to the cam and chain and wrestled with that for a while. Followed the book but seemed like the chain didn’t have enough slack. Took another break and read a thread on changing cam chain. Went back to the barn and the chain popped right on  ;D

Turned the engine over multiple times and the timing lined up so good to go.

Done for today...hope to get the engine back in tomorrow.

It sounds like you're working the problems pretty effectively, in my view.  I understand about vision; I've worn coke bottle thick glasses since I was a kid, and now they're bifocals, too!  My issue is that they won't focus when I'm trying to do detail work, so despite having more than one prescription in them, I still can't see what I'm doing sometimes.  Stay with it, man!  It's obvious you have some excellent skills!

Title: Re: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by Dennisgb on 08/31/20 at 16:12:58

Thanks everyone for giving your support. I am making progress.

Engine is back in the frame and bolted down. A few fun things happened. I tried to get it in from the left side and that was pretty dumb. I switched to the right side and it went much better. I use a car engine hoist with a strap to do engines and it actually works quite well. You leave slack in the strap and it gives enough movement that you can “swing” the engine in with the strap even with the frame rail.

Will button up the little stuff tomorrow and should have it running with a little luck.  ;D

Title: Re: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/20 at 18:19:14

Probably not the best time to say this,, and I have no idea which is less of a biteInTheAss,, But Ive heard of people layin the engine on a blanket on its side and laying the frame down..

Title: Re: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by Dennisgb on 08/31/20 at 21:32:55

Yes I’ve heard that for many different motorcycles. Never done it. Now I would need a hoist to get the bike back up so I just use the hoist to put it in.  ;D

Title: Re: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/01/20 at 01:18:33

I totally understand..
Not much longer and I'm gonna need a hoist to get me up.

Title: Re: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by Dennisgb on 09/01/20 at 13:09:55

Here’s where I’m at.

Title: Re: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by Dennisgb on 09/01/20 at 14:23:12

Stupid is as stupid does  :'(

I put the battery box and the battery in “before” I installed the carb.


Title: Re: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by Bokobob on 09/05/20 at 07:24:38

You are encouraging...You don't say your age but obviously you seem to be getting up there.....At 84, I am physically not able to do ANY strenuous work (even the slightest - heart very weak) but still change my own oil and filter and do thing such as removing the speedometer for repair and then reinstalling it, etc.

I applaud you for staying in the game.  I am there in spirit and as said, for easy stuff, in body as well...

Ride on.

Title: Re: Dang it’s hard to get old
Post by Dennisgb on 09/05/20 at 08:57:56


44696D69646964060 wrote:
You are encouraging...You don't say your age but obviously you seem to be getting up there.....At 84, I am physically not able to do ANY strenuous work (even the slightest - heart very weak) but still change my own oil and filter and do thing such as removing the speedometer for repair and then reinstalling it, etc.

I applaud you for staying in the game.  I am there in spirit and as said, for easy stuff, in body as well...

Ride on.


Awesome! 84 that’s amazing.

I’m a young 68. Have had multiple surgeries over the past few years. Am fused at multiple levels. I now know that I shouldn’t have been so crazy on motorcycles in my younger days. Arthritis in my hands and bad eyesight make it difficult but not impossible for me to work on my toys.

Rebuilding engines was commonplace for me just a few years ago, now it’s a major project.

I actually turned the key on this one yesterday. It started right up. I did all the carb and exhaust mods so was quite pleased when it started and idled. Still finishing the exhaust mounting but should actually ride it today.  ;D

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