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Title: “... On the Road Again …” Post by MnSpring on 06/21/20 at 08:59:52 Saw a ad for a hotel chain, “the open road is open again . . . “. WOW, what a piece of PROPAGANDA. One was NEVER, Prohibited from traveling from place to place. One can NOT be restricted from traveling from place to place. (Yes Virginia, some cases could legally occur, when other illegal activities have occurred) What total PROPAGANDA, ‘Inforcing’, FALSE information, All to get ‘shepol’ to ACCEPT the, “you WILL do this …”. |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by Eegore on 06/21/20 at 17:45:50 Well technically isn't all advertising "propaganda"? So are you saying Choice Hotels got together with the US Government and started some campaign to insinuate we weren't allowed to travel? I'm not sure anyone at MPG, McKinney or Havas Media when they put this together was strategizing a was to falsely inform the public that they couldn't travel from place to place. I reached out to them and we can see what they say. I for one doubt anyone is looking at that commercial saying OMG, I can travel now? |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by MnSpring on 06/22/20 at 12:21:32 1E3E3C34293E5B0 wrote:
Oh YES they are !!!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by Eegore on 06/22/20 at 12:36:02 You know people that think they can not travel specifically within the US? If so did they even try? Like did they look up hotel rooms, bus tickets, airline tickets anything at all? What did they see that indicated they could not travel? |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/22/20 at 12:51:14 I woooondeerrr.... If someone, maybe not the brightest, maybe someone who isn't exactly prone to questioning AwThorItee is hearing Stay home Over and over.. I don't think it's a stretch to see how some percentage could believe they aren't really supposed to go on a trip.. Seeing reports of people accosted by cops for taking the kids to the park... Hmm.. nope, no reason to believe people could conclude travel without good cause is verboten.. |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by Eegore on 06/22/20 at 14:14:51 Do you know people that think they can not travel specifically within the US? If so did they even try? Like did they look up hotel rooms, bus tickets, airline tickets anything at all? I say if someone is going to rely on mainstream media and not actual law to tell them what is legal they should remain home. It would be safer for them, and everyone else. What happens when they see a "report" that murder is legal now? If someone can't look up a hotel room and see they are available, and rental cars, and airline tickets, they probably aren't capable of doing a lot of things. |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/22/20 at 14:24:57 Let's see Watch news See what is said Note people in trouble for going out Conclude TRAVEL is out.. Now, WHY would someone call a motel and ask about a room If they already have been convinced, however incorrect they may be, that they can't GO.. BECAUSE, they live in a place with a mayor telling them to stay home.. |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by Eegore on 06/22/20 at 14:59:53 "Now, WHY would someone call a motel and ask about a room If they already have been convinced, however incorrect they may be, that they can't GO.. BECAUSE, they live in a place with a mayor telling them to stay home.. " This person obviously is incapable of differentiating between a Mayor providing reference to law and an imaginary environment where the Mayor is saying they can not leave their home. Unless of course there is a Mayor that actually said people are not allowed to leave their homes for any reason, or that they can not travel for any reason. If anything this person should get some professional assistance and be evaluated for the potential of assisted living in some form as they conclude they are restricted to the confines of their home based off misinterpretation of fact, lack the ability to ask for clarification, or comprehend the general language that the majority of the population can interpret correctly. Again: Do you know people that think they can not travel specifically within the US? If so did they even try? Like did they look up hotel rooms, bus tickets, airline tickets anything at all? |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/22/20 at 16:30:34 And youre incapable of admitting that there are TONS of people that stupid.. No, I dont KNow anyone,,who would consider taveling out of state,, I DO kow a 21 YO guy who told me that he wasnt going anywhere but work, at the grocery store,, because of the Mayors Orders..So, trust me when I tell ya,, peoplpe arent gonna go looking at hotel rooms IF IF IF IF They have Already CONCLUDED that TRavel is Verboten.. And however Mistaken they may be,, THATS how some people saw it.. And,, ONCE again,, HOW could they be so confused? Parents given grief, for takin a kid to the park,, Throw the darnED mASKS AWAY AND GET TO LIVING,, |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by Eegore on 06/22/20 at 19:40:19 "And youre incapable of admitting that there are TONS of people that stupid" Well that depends on what you consider "TONS". I think "SOME" might, but typically since nobody is documented saying you can't travel out of State that part would have to be concluded by other means than local Mayors. This is up there with the "Why are children being told to wear masks when they know it restricts oxygen???!!!" nonsense. Sure some people think that's a thing but most people know masks don't restrict enough oxygen to matter for a kid, and that kids will just pull the mask away to get air. The reality is most the people asking that question know its Bullsh!t, but they want something else to add to the complaints. "And however Mistaken they may be,, THATS how some people saw it.." Who? Are you just guessing assuming this to be true, or are you declaring it as fact? It sounds you are declaring it as fact. I'm not saying it isn't but I am not aware of anyone that has said "Wait, the Mayor said "No out of State travel is allowed." That is what I was asking. I imagine it has happened, but is it the intention of Choice Hotels to do this? They colluded to influence the less than one percent of the population, the portion that can't comprehend what a Mayor says, to Not travel? A major hotel chain, a business sustained on travel, is helping keep people at home. Great idea. |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by MnSpring on 06/22/20 at 21:19:36 5F7F7D75687F1A0 wrote:
No, it is a Hotel/Ad Agency, using what they believe the shepole, (UL FDS Snowflake Socialists), believe. In saying: “the open road is open again" What is that slogan a Car co is now saying " "... reclaim the road trip ..." Gee, now two companies/etc, using the fact that the snowflakes BELIEVE and accept, the perceived belief, that freedom was restricted !!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by Eegore on 06/23/20 at 05:58:15 Gee, now two companies/etc, using the fact that the snowflakes BELIEVE and accept, the perceived belief, that freedom was restricted !!!!!!!! Do you know anyone that thinks their ability to travel in the US was restricted? Did any of them try? Who do you know that BELIEVED they could not travel in any form and had to stay in their home? It's called advertising. Pepsi used "Gotta have It!" an obvious reach into the instant gratification desires of Gen-X kids at the time, capitalizing on their gimme now! attitudes and aversion to working for what they get. Right? Imagine advertising being designed to alter perception so people purchase their product. |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by MnSpring on 06/23/20 at 07:03:04 Why are you being deliberately obtuse ? It's called advertising Ah, YEA !!! Pepsi used "Gotta have It!" capitalizing on their gimme now! attitudes Just the SAME, as companies are using the perception that 'travel' Freedom has been removed, (and the UL DFI Socialist shepole are totally accepting of that fact), to advertise their product/service. And the, 'proof', that a large number BELIEVE, that travel was restricted. Would be the SAME proof you used to say: "... obvious reach into the instant gratification desires of Gen-X kids ..." |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/23/20 at 11:27:35 They colluded to influence the less than one percent of the population, the portion that can't comprehend what a Mayor says, to Not travel? A major hotel chain, a business sustained on travel, is helping keep people at home. Great idea. Bingo.. You just exhibited your bias.. Nobody said anything about the hotels telling people they couldnt travel. I sure asFukk didnt,, Youre pretending bullshit,, |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by Eegore on 06/23/20 at 16:02:56 "Nobody said anything about the hotels telling people they couldnt travel. I sure asFukk didnt,," That's why I asked. See the question mark at the end? They colluded to influence the less than one percent of the population, the portion that can't comprehend what a Mayor says, to Not travel? To clarify: MnSpring indicates that a hotal chain (Choice Hotels) is "inforcing" "FALSE" information through "PROPAGANDA". Lets break this down: PROPAGANDA= Information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view. So by MnSpring's evaluation Choice Hotels is enacting a biased or misleading ad campaign designed to further enforce the "FALSE" idea that US citizens could not travel. Also added is that the motive of this ad campaign is to "get ‘shepol’ to ACCEPT the, “you WILL do this …”. "This" in the phrase "you WILL do this" represents the act of staying home. Choice Hotels is engaging in propaganda designed to enforce the false idea that sheepish people will stay home. You got another way of interpreting that? To clarify that is a question, indicated by the question mark at the end of the sentence. |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by Eegore on 06/23/20 at 16:05:39 "And the, 'proof', that a large number BELIEVE, that travel was restricted. Would be the SAME proof you used to say:" Yeah. I made it up, its complete nonsense with no factual evidence of any kind. Just garbage I made up, that means nothing. So again: Do you know anyone that thought they could not travel specifically within the US? Did they attempt to see if they could? |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by MnSpring on 06/24/20 at 12:55:34 7A5A58504D5A3F0 wrote:
WOW, after all that, spinning, deflection, changing meanings, etc. After 87 views. Eegore finally got the original post ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by Eegore on 06/24/20 at 15:56:45 "Eegore finally got the original post !" Except you say I didn't when I said it the first time: Eegore: " A major hotel chain, a business sustained on travel, is helping keep people at home." MNSpring: No, it is a Hotel/Ad Agency, using what they believe the shepole, (UL FDS Snowflake Socialists), believe. In saying: “the open road is open again" Choice Hotels, a business sustained on travel is using biased or misleading information to further enforce FALSE ideas that sheepish people WILL stay home, or could not travel. Not. Travel. A business sustained on travel, is helping enforce the idea that people could not travel. Great idea. Even though you won't answer, I will ask again: Do you know anyone that thought they could not travel specifically within the US? Did they attempt to see if they could? |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by MnSpring on 06/25/20 at 14:33:33 Hmmm. Millions of Businesses, sending out Billions of, “...you are an Essential worker...", letters. (Yes, those letters were not necessary) YET, they were sent out, and the subliminal message was ??????? When was the last time a, “Paper”, made by a, ‘authority’, by the suggestion of a higher, ‘authority’, was required, (perceived or real), to be carried at all times ? Oh did you know, “the open road is open again“. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D >:( >:( ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D "... Do you know anyone that thought they could not ..." What was that, that tt always said, about looking something up ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/25/20 at 17:32:39 Choice Hotels, a business sustained on travel is using biased or misleading information to further enforce FALSE ideas that sheepish people WILL stay home, or could not travel. Actually,, what they ARE saying Is,, If you thought you culdnt NOW Ya Can,, But,, you can pretend its saying Stay Hoome |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by Eegore on 06/25/20 at 20:36:48 "When was the last time a, “Paper”, made by a, ‘authority’, by the suggestion of a higher, ‘authority’, was required, (perceived or real), to be carried at all times ?" When did Choice Hotels, the subject of this thread, become part of that? "What was that, that tt always said, about looking something up ?" You want to explain to me how I can "look up" if YOU know people in your personal life that thought they could not travel specifically in the US and if they tried? How exactly would I look that up? |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by Eegore on 06/25/20 at 20:41:47 "Actually,, what they ARE saying Is,, If you thought you culdnt NOW Ya Can,, But,, you can pretend its saying Stay Hoome" I don't think they are saying either one of those. I am stating how I interpreted what MnSpring posted. That a hotel chain, a business dependent on travel is choosing to market to a small percentage of extremely ignorant people that obviously don't even try to ask, look, assess or in any way see if they can travel. Instead of a marketing campaign focused on the larger group that knows what is actually going on. |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by MnSpring on 06/26/20 at 15:03:19 6747454D5047220 wrote:
And around and around the Spin goes. Choice, (and now other companies), Have, focused on the larger group. That group is the very large group, who Believed, they could Not travel, unless they had 'papers' that said they were, 'essential'. And then only to/from, that, 'essential, work. To which, 'Choice/others', simply capitalized on the shepol, which were made by the Socalistic FDS UL's, who actuality believe, if you give up a freedom, you will be safer. |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by Eegore on 06/26/20 at 15:22:11 "That group is the very large group, who Believed, they could Not travel, unless they had 'papers' that said they were, 'essential'. And then only to/from, that, 'essential, work." Do you know anyone that thought they could not travel specifically within the US? Did they attempt to see if they could? Or can you explain how I can "look up" who you know personally and find out? |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/26/20 at 16:12:25 I TOLD You I Personally KNow a 21 YO guy who TOLD me he was ONLY going to work and Home,, because of what the MAYOR said he wanted,, He Felt like it was essential to DO as he was told.. And I dont know many people.. And Stay at HOME orders were obviously widespread, IF YOU MIssed it,, NO,, I cant fix it,,Seems like youre trying to make people prove that people believed something,, I KNow,, Heres an idea,, Did you do any driving back in those weeks? dID YOU NOT nOTICE HOW EASY IT WAS TO RIP ACROSS TOWN? eVERYONE WAS AT home,, |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by Eegore on 06/26/20 at 20:48:22 "I TOLD You I Personally KNow a 21 YO guy who TOLD me he was ONLY going to work and Home,, because of what the MAYOR said he wanted,, He Felt like it was essential to DO as he was told.." I got that, which is why I didn't ask you again. Its obvious not as many people were out. But how many did not leave town because they heard a Mayor say interstate travel was forbidden? The question is how many people thought they were not allowed to travel in the US. As in go to the next town, or anywhere that would cause one to use a hotel. Not to work, not to the grocery store, but away from their primary residence and to a location that would have cause for the use of a hotel. As I read the original post, Choice Hotels developed a marketing campaign designed to mislead people into thinking they could not travel. Not a good move for a company based on travel. |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/27/20 at 00:10:15 Really? Seemed to me the message was You CAN travel,, Have you heard of any places that require a quarantine? I have,, What happens when someone is headed on a Long trip, to a place that doesnt require a quarantine, passing thru places that do,, all ya can do is check in, buy room service, check out, ht the road and While youre On the Road,, Your destination Enacts a quarantine,, Not all that conducive to travel, izzit? |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by Eegore on 06/27/20 at 00:22:40 "What happens when someone is headed on a Long trip, to a place that doesnt require a quarantine, passing thru places that do,, all ya can do is check in, buy room service, check out, ht the road and While youre On the Road,, Your destination Enacts a quarantine,, Not all that conducive to travel, izzit?" No. I am referring to Choice Hotels developing a marketing campaign targeting a small percentage of their consumer base instead of the larger group. As in why are they spending the time intentionally misleading people who might hear what a Mayor says the wrong way instead of having a marketing campaign that is just designed to capitalize on the average consumer who didn't hear that one Mayor say that one thing about travel, that one time that was wrong? Better to focus on the people that heard that Mayor give incorrect information, not anyone else I guess. |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/27/20 at 07:36:37 Ahh, got it,, talkin to everyone, but ONLY the people who had concluded travel was verboten is actually who they are targeting,, I dont think youre trackin here.. You see, Its an Advertisement, they are telling people Come Stay with us,, Everyone who hears the ad, hears that invitation,, And for you idiots who listened to everything that said DONT TRAVEL STAY HOME Well,, we are here for you, TOO.. Youre trying to make Them the idiot,, Not working,, |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by Eegore on 06/27/20 at 09:57:27 "And for you idiots who listened to everything that said DONT TRAVEL STAY HOME Well,, we are here for you, TOO.." Right. But in your scenario the "idiots who listened to everything" are just included in a normal ad campaign. But MnSpring, when stating the ad is "PROPAGANDA" is by definition saying the ad is designed to mislead. So its not just an ad that "includes" the idiots, it is targeted for them specifically. Why did Choice Hotels first decide to choose propaganda over a normal inclusive ad campaign? Why did they choose the smallest group to intentionally mislead? Not include, but target? Who sat in a board room and said they should propagandize what could just be a normal ad campaign that also helps morons understand they can leave town? |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by Serowbot on 06/27/20 at 10:28:34 If you don't like their ads,.. don't stay at their hotels. $$$ speak louder than words. Which, in this case, will be quiet as a mouse.... :-? |
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Title: Re: “... On the Road Again …” Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/27/20 at 14:25:57 E said Who sat in a board room and said they should propagandize what could just be a normal ad campaign that also helps morons understand they can leave town? Dude,, IDK how to even start with how ads get okayed,, Ive seen some ads and had that kinda question,, Who sat in the boardroom and listened to the ad agency pitch this idea and actually nodded in agreement,, sayin Yes! This will be money well spent! Good advertising campaign,, we will forever be proud of this,, I usually dodge commercials,, but some of them are so constant I wind up seing it ,, and watching those people skating with a house for Progressive make me wanna toss a rock thru the window of my TV |
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