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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1591745403 Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 06/09/20 at 16:30:03 |
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Title: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/09/20 at 16:30:03 Stay in your house,, unless ya need to go to Walmart, but not a locally owned mom and pop store,, Well, NOW its time to take to the Streets! Forget Social distancing! Ohh, PLease wear a mask while youre looting and burning your local businesses,, OOPsies! Trump is gonna start having rallies,, Its time to Stay HOME,, No more crowds! The Mutherfukkin INSANITY sold as smart to idiots, watching them believe it,, Its Maddening.. You idiots are Guaranteeing Foutr More Years.. |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by oldNslow on 06/09/20 at 17:30:38 584741465B5C6D5D6D55474B00320 wrote:
WHO Doctor says "Data suggests that asymptomatic people infected with WuFlu really don't infect the people they come in contact with very often. WHO management who have been promoting "lock yerself in the house, wear a mask,stop the spread, flatten the curve,everfookin body you pass on the street is gonna kill yer a*s if they breath on you!!" narrative promptly sh*t their pants, take that doctor out back and give her a stern talking to. Doctor returns looking contrite and a little disheveled. Says "What I said a little while ago wasn't really what you heard me say a little while ago.' Experts. ::) Cui bono. |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/09/20 at 18:21:48 Funny thing about all this.. Without access to studies, or anything to stand on and point to as Supporting Evidence My gut feeling about the whole thing Was exactly Correct.. It was hyped up BULLSHIT.. Gosh, whoda guessed? Like the whole Russia,Russia,Russia Thing.. BULLSHIT, from the word go. |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by Eegore on 06/09/20 at 20:00:45 Well if we want to take statements made by different people, organizations, and mobs and pretend that one organization said all that, or that they even agree amongst themselves, then sure this makes sense. WHO and CDC are two different entities that actually haven't agreed on a lot of the models, and State orders. Not one of them have said anything close to "Well, NOW its time to take to the Streets!" As I said before this will just be a circular logic: Mortality rates are low because the virus wasn't that bad. No mortality rates are low because social distancing worked. Nope, the virus was Bullshit, that's why deaths aren't in the millions. Nope, people engaged in social distancing that's why deaths weren't in the millions. Lets ignore that nobody said deaths would be in the millions and just claim that your belief was why this wasn't as bad as nobody at all ever said it was going to be anyway. |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/09/20 at 20:30:39 Just like you wanted to pretend The very same jobs had to come back To say The jobs came back. While no ONE AGENCY said the Crowds, bad, good, bad,, The management in the Lefty cities Where lockdown was the word Suddenly got okay with streets full. I'm not gonna play your word games. Look at how it changed for rioting But not church. If you can't accept it I understand But it's obvious that depending on reason Restricting people is done differently. |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by Eegore on 06/10/20 at 07:47:16 "Just like you wanted to pretend The very same jobs had to come back To say The jobs came back." I never said that, and I told you that, but you will ignore it so you can keep bringing it up. I clarified specifically how the numbers I used work, but you wont look at them so you can keep incorrectly claiming I said something I: Did. Not. Say. "But it's obvious that depending on reason Restricting people is done differently." Show me one State Order indicating protests are OK but other assemblies are not. Just one that is saying any of these gatherings are "Good", acceptable, endorsed, allowed, cool, ok, or in any capacity conducive to social distancing and are encouraged. We can pretend the Lefty cities somehow are issuing State social distancing orders so we can falsely claim they are not ok with church but are ok with protests. Lefty cities didn't issue Stay at Home orders, the State did. But we will ignore that part. So again lets clump together two different organizations saying two different things and pretend they are the same group giving conflicting information. |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/10/20 at 09:29:32 The same cities that were all for stay home, dont work, dont go to church, changed their minds when it was time for a good old fashioned riot. But, because it wasnt a state or something, it doesnt scream STUPID,, or Hypocrit, or liar, or anything untoward regarding the clowns running the show. |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/10/20 at 10:39:59 Aaaand a Guvnah,, Businesses , meeh,, gotta go slow,, But riots? Hey,, go for it! New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy indicated Monday that he has no plans to enforce social distancing rules on large groups gathering for anti-racism protests even as non-essential businesses are allowed to reopen only in phases and other large groups are prohibited. “I can’t imagine what it would look like if we said to people, ‘Actually, you have to stay in. You have to ignore systemic racism — I’m sorry, just ignore it. Stay in,’” the governor said during his daily coronavirus briefing. I can’t imagine what that looks like as it relates to public safety.” The governor attended protests in Hillside and Westfield, two of the more than 130 protests across New Jersey over the weekend in response to the death of George Floyd, a black man who died in police custody in Minneapolis after a white police officer knelt on his neck for close to nine minutes, persisting even after Floyd lost consciousness. New Jersey has been hit harder by the coronavirus than any state except neighboring New York, with more than 12,200 deaths from the infection since early March. Murphy last month extended his state’s stay at home order, which has been in place since March 21, limiting gatherings to a maximum of 25 people and enforced the temporary shutdown of non-essential businesses. Dozens of businesses and residents have been charged with violating the stay at home order. 9 The governor acknowledged the risks the large protests pose to controlling the spread of the virus and encouraged those who participated to get tested for coronavirus, but noted that many protesters have worn face masks during the demonstrations. “We cannot let what happened across New Jersey this weekend be undone by an outbreak,” Murphy said. “What all these numbers tell us is that the spread of Covid-19 continues to slow and that is again why I encourage everyone who took part in a march or a peaceful protest this weekend to get tested.” Send a tip to the news team at NR. NOW WATCH: 'Distancing and Masks Are Key to Cut Risk of COVID-19' |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by eau de sauvage on 06/10/20 at 16:00:57 I’ve talked to several public health experts who support the protests — both black and white — asking them what they wish people like Vance could accept. Here’s what they say: Protesters are more afraid of doing nothing in the aftermath of George Floyd’s killing than the pandemic. And centuries of systemic racism, lifetimes of discrimination, and years of watching black people die needlessly drive those fears. https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/6/6/21279592/protest-pandemic-covid-19-risk-second-wave-systemic-racism “cost of not doing something is a lot greater.” So that has been a genuine dilemma. And one could make an argument in good faith on either side of it. But there will be no legitimate way for Trump or his partisans to make such a cynically opportunistic argument about the protests. It will be entirely saturated in bad faith, and no one should let them get away with it for a second if and when it does happen. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/10/coming-campaign-rescue-trump-could-get-lot-uglier/ |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/10/20 at 16:27:15 cost of not doing something is a lot greater.”... So. As long as the perpetually butthurt are placated, it's okay, But The cost of not going to work for millions.. Well.. social justice,, Thanks for the admission. Safety isn't Absolutely necessary It's CONDITIONAL.. Get the Right people supporting a riot, it's okay But go to work? Church? Not approved.. You see it, good for you. |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by Eegore on 06/10/20 at 16:57:22 Riots are not "approved". Nobody said that, but spin the wording so it sounds worse. But appeal to extremes as if it fools anybody into thinking that any city anywhere is saying "Riots are approved". That's a very obvious exaggeration of real facts, real things that are really happening and not this imaginary "riots" are ok bullsh!t. Enforcing crowd control is very different from enforcing business ordinance. Show me a city that is having law enforcement enforce church attendance while a riot is going on in that same city. Then you might be onto something. We all know that if New Jersey sent cops and National Guard to protest sites to enforce "social distancing" the city would burn., violence would be worse. But lets just pretend all these organizations got together and said "church is bad, riots are good" so we can complain about things that aren't really happening. |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/10/20 at 17:26:45 Ive made the point,, Not playin,, |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by Eegore on 06/10/20 at 17:30:42 As long as your point doesn't require real events that really happen in the real world then yeah good job. Nobody has said riots are ok. Nobody. |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by eau de sauvage on 06/10/20 at 23:23:07 The cost of 'not going to work'. When the cost of not going to work is being murdered, it's a pretty big cost. Must be a difficult for the white supremacists around here that the protests are actually working to wake up Americans to what has been going on for far too long with regard to the impunity of the police to murder. Washington has repealed statute 50-A. |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/11/20 at 04:20:51 I've shown what people see. You don't have to agree. We're tired of your stupid. And there is no credibility left for your experts. |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by Eegore on 06/11/20 at 06:14:57 "I've shown what people see." Show me anyone that has seen the words "Riots are ok" from any organization, Governor, or any elected official of a kind. That's your claim, that its been said that "riots" are being approved. Or keep making that part up. You are proving your point based off a lie and thus lose any credibility after that. This is just like the CDC "lies" that are actually the lies of other people reporting on something the CDC told the truth about. So the organization that accepted the Truth, and didn't complain ended up with a more accurate dual reporting system. I wonder what State ended up doing that. I wonder what group was flown to DC to show it. Was it the group that made up lies or exaggerated facts to justify their complaints? Was it the group that complained to "the news"? Or was it the group that accepted facts, stopped claiming the CDC is "lying" (when they actually told the truth), challenged them, and developed an alternative? The fact that you are claiming anyone said "Riots are approved" stops anyone from taking you seriously. That statement is simply a lie. There is hypocritical behavior, but not in the way you are claiming. You are very obviously exaggerating to skew information towards your compliant, but it's not fooling anyone. So since I don't agree that "riots" are "approved" you call me stupid, instead of having an adult conversation about it. |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by MnSpring on 06/11/20 at 08:06:09 7454565E4354310 wrote:
Don't need, 'words', when one, "SEES", a Cop shop burn to the ground. While the Police Watch ! While the Fire Dept/s WATCH ! While the Minn Guard, 'GUARD', the Gov's residence. While Police, Fire Dept's, N.G. WATCH, While thief's STEAL, Burn down Buildings, etc. Actions Speak much louder than 'words' ! |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by MnSpring on 06/11/20 at 08:48:52 08282A223F284D0 wrote:
So a Candy store opening, 250+ people belly to Azzhole, (no, "written', order), is not OK also ? Yet that is now ALLOWED, (in MN), by lack of doing something about it. While Schools/Graduations/Weddings/Funerals/Reunions/etc/etc/etc ... HAVE, a 'written' order. . . |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by Eegore on 06/11/20 at 16:50:34 So a Candy store opening, 250+ people belly to Azzhole, (no, "written', order), is not OK also ? I don't know, provide reference to your current State orders. "Yet that is now ALLOWED, (in MN), by lack of doing something about it." To clarify it is "allowed" because no law enforcement is being done, not because law says it is ok to do? "While Schools/Graduations/Weddings/Funerals/Reunions/etc/etc/etc ... HAVE, a 'written' order. . ." Reference it so we can see what it says. In CO there is no approval to assemble for protests while restricting other gatherings. There is no approval to "riot" anywhere. Which is what JoG claims is happening. |
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Title: Re: Crowds,, BAD!,, Uhh, GOOD!,, Uhh, BAD! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/11/20 at 17:18:01 Youre so disengenuous. They Allow Protests and thats a given and Which Protests Arent Riots? Who is stopping the riots? What the everluvvin FUKK is goin on in Seattle? |
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