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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> Some of these are REally hard to answer,, /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1589822318 Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/20 at 10:18:38 |
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Title: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/20 at 10:18:38 But YOu can pretend they dont exist,because YOU found a couple you can just shrug off.. Wayull,, arent YEW Spayshull? These are the important questions folks need to be asking themselves! Why can you go to Walmart but not Kohl’s? Why the Dollar store and not a mom-and-pop shop? Why can’t you have an elective surgery, but you can have an abortion which is elective? Why should you stay inside but yet heat and sunlight kill the virus? Why can’t kids (who are not at risk) play on an outdoor playground, where sun kills this virus? Why don’t people know that these are “recommendations” not laws because they have not gone through due process? Why is it okay for government officials to get a haircut, but not common citizens? Why the fear, when this virus has a less than 1% death rate? Why have coroners questioned death certificates listed as CV-19? Why are areas like Chicago and NY gearing up for mass vaccination? What makes one person essential and another not? Why are they dividing us? How do people not know that we are a Republic, not a Democracy? Where has the flu gone? Why do the homeless consistently demonstrate the lowest infection rates? Why are they telling us to mask up after 2 months of lockdown? Why is the CDC saying kids need to be masked when they return to school or attend church, when they know cloth masks restrict oxygen? What is this oppression and loss of liberty doing to the mental health of our kids…to us? Why have most other death rates dropped since the virus? Why did world leaders meet in China in October 2019? Why are the common people being controlled by the government and no one is controlling the government? Why are hospitals paid more for Covid 19 deaths? Why are some doctors speaking out and then getting silenced? Why did Obama give the Wuhan lab $334 million dollars? What does a computer geek have to do with a pandemic and why does he want 7 billion corona virus vaccines? Why did the CDC have a job posting for pandemic relief workers in November 2019? Why did Dr. Fauci say in 2017 that the Trump administration would be faced with a ” SURPRISE PANDEMIC ” and then runs the pandemic team? Why are they infringing on Christian religious freedoms? Why can people shop at Menards or Home Depot, but we are not allowed to go into a church building? Why are they insisting on a vaccine when there’s a cheaper alternative that is proven effective and safe solution: Hydroxychloroquine? |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by MShipley on 05/18/20 at 11:08:03 JOG, you are not allowed to think for yourself and ask questions like that. The entire lock down would be exposed for the lunacy that it is. |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by Serowbot on 05/18/20 at 11:10:22 Cutting and pasting is not thinking... :-? https://www.facebook.com/dlsinger1963/posts/2575906879323519 https://www.facebook.com/dlsinger1963/posts/2575906879323519 https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1257124770232930305.html You are Trump's sheeple... |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by MShipley on 05/18/20 at 11:20:45 Questions are only valid if you were the first to consider it? |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by MnSpring on 05/18/20 at 12:22:05 1204130E16030E15610 wrote:
Do you Really Believe that ?????? Or did someone tell you to say that ? ;D |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/20 at 12:35:48 Ive thot some of them,, thanks Row,, and you ANSWERED none,, |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by srinath on 05/18/20 at 13:14:13 I'm pro shutdown. Really, I am anti having to drive to work everyday and sit in a chitty A$$ cube with 1000 other sheeple all coughing and sneezing. Trust me, the first 10 days I am in the office, people gonna beg me to stay home. But I'd rather it don't come to that. 2 more months of shutdown and I'll be Greta Tunberg's hero. 90% less emissions in an instant. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/20 at 13:49:59 Thats you.. Others are literally losing everything theyve worked for. |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/20 at 13:51:20 I dont understand why the Army,, rather that defend settlers, didnt just set up at trail heads and stop the wagon trains,, to keep the people safe from Indians. Imagine the lives saved! |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by Eegore on 05/18/20 at 17:16:07 Some of these are good questions, but some are obviously inaccurate claims, or as usual leaving out details. Why can you go to Walmart but not Kohl’s? Kohl's chose to close retails stores and maintain online sales. No agency made them do that, they could maintain the same standards as Wal-mart, but choose not to. Why should you stay inside but yet heat and sunlight kill the virus? Garbage logic. The recommendation is human proximity. Stay outside all you want. Why can’t kids (who are not at risk) play on an outdoor playground, where sun kills this virus? Kids can carry the virus to at risk people. Being in the sun does not completely kill the virus. But say it that way to make this argument appear more valid than it is. Why don’t people know that these are “recommendations” not laws because they have not gone through due process? The Orders enacted are law. They include recommendations. Mixing the two doesn't change anything. Why is it okay for government officials to get a haircut, but not common citizens? Garbage logic. You can get a haircut, you can get one the same way government officials do. Why the fear, when this virus has a less than 1% death rate? No idea. Fear and being upset to me, are to different things. Why are areas like Chicago and NY gearing up for mass vaccination? Any reason they should not be? What makes one person essential and another not? You as a human are not essential, however if you chose to work in a profession that is essential then by choosing to do that job you are given essential status. Your job is essential. Why are they dividing us? I think it's your choice if you want to be divided. How do people not know that we are a Republic, not a Democracy? This obviously has been up for debate since 1776. Where has the flu gone? The same place it always goes this time of year. If your choice of news doesn't tell you about an event would that mean that event did something different or went away? Or does it mean your choice of news isn't covering it? Why are they telling us to mask up after 2 months of lockdown? No reason to mask up at home. As restrictions ease and people are returning to work, put a mask on. The recommendation has always been to cover your mouth/nose for droplet containment. Why is the CDC saying kids need to be masked when they return to school or attend church, when they know cloth masks restrict oxygen? Garbage logic. How many kids are going to die from restricted oxygen at school or church? Pull the mask out a little bit, breathe in. What is this oppression and loss of liberty doing to the mental health of our kids…to us? Depends on how you see it I guess. I don't consider this a loss of liberty but my opinions of what liberty is obviously won't match everyone elses. Why have most other death rates dropped since the virus? You mean why are there less vehicle deaths when there are less vehicles on the road? Why are there less factory deaths in factories that are closed down? I'm not even sure this is true actually. Why did world leaders meet in China in October 2019? Very well documented event. Why are the common people being controlled by the government and no one is controlling the government? Vote. Do some work instead of complaining. Identify what laws were broken and enact change that prohibits State and Federal lockdowns in the future. Let diseased people go where they want and you stay home if you are scared. Why are hospitals paid more for Covid 19 deaths? It's called new legislation: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/ Why are some doctors speaking out and then getting silenced? Silenced how? All the doctors I see people reference on YouTube are still around talking. Why did Obama give the Wuhan lab $334 million dollars? Very well documented. What does a computer geek have to do with a pandemic and why does he want 7 billion corona virus vaccines? Also very well documented. Obviously reducing his credibility by saying "Computer Geek" and as usual ignoring that his foundation has helped vaccinate people for decades. Why did the CDC have a job posting for pandemic relief workers in November 2019? Why did they have them all the times before that? Why did Dr. Fauci say in 2017 that the Trump administration would be faced with a ” SURPRISE PANDEMIC ” and then runs the pandemic team? Garbage logic. Lets ignore how he made the presentation, that he didn't claim it was going to happen worldwide and that he hasn't had this position for 32 years already. Why are they infringing on Christian religious freedoms? Is it exclusive to Christians? They are letting large Muslim groups convene down the road? Why can people shop at Menards or Home Depot, but we are not allowed to go into a church building? Sounds like a good question. If a church can maintain the distancing rules maybe they should be allowed to open. Why are they insisting on a vaccine when there’s a cheaper alternative that is proven effective and safe solution: Hydroxychloroquine? Because its not proven. |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/20 at 17:36:31 Why are they insisting on a vaccine when there’s a cheaper alternative that is proven effective and safe solution: Hydroxychloroquine? Because its not proven. You mean like the mortality rate they Claimed? |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by Eegore on 05/18/20 at 17:46:15 "You mean like the mortality rate they Claimed? " No. Taking a handful of people and only reporting the successes is not "proof". Conduct clinical trials and show it works, then let someone else, using your methods replicate the results. They haven't done that with Hydroxychloroquine, but claiming its a proven cure, without evidence, is a good way to make people who won't do their own research and make their own opinions mad. |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/20 at 19:00:25 No, E,, You KNOW they chose to fail to include the asymptomatic You KNOW, because its been in the news, morticians pissed becuse of obviously NOT CV deaths, being attributed to CV,, they drove up the mortality rate Its been bullshit from day one. Ge,, too bad NO one HERE spotted it,, |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by Eegore on 05/18/20 at 19:30:01 I am saying no, I do not think inflated mortality rates are like clinical trials. I haven't seen any claims that the mortality rates are "proven" by any official source. Your list claims Hydroxychloroquine is a "proven effective and safe solution" Death rates are not. "You KNOW they chose to fail to include the asymptomatic" Again. Can you provide a way to count people that are asymptomatic? How do you count people that are not aware they have a virus? |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/20 at 19:53:49 Conveniently ignore,,AGAIN, the Floating Petri dishes,, We had clinical evidence,,of APPROXIMATE oercentages of asymptomatics among close contact groups,, NOT used |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by Eegore on 05/18/20 at 19:56:24 "We had clinical evidence,,of APPROXIMATE oercentages of asymptomatics among close contact groups,, NOT used" Except it is used, and I showed you that in 4 separate sources. Hundreds of pages of information that use those close contact environments like the cruise ships. But ignore that so you can keep saying that approximate percentages are not used through plausible deniability. If you are using cr@p sources that's on you, but don't expect everyone else to do the same. |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/20 at 20:03:27 Maybe seeing morticians go head to head with orders to call someone who obvioously died of alcohol poisoning as a CV death has me not trusting,, Ive seen too much to trust,, Im done with it,, I dont Fukkin CARE what they say,, People are gonna DIE because theyve lost everything,,Just because the nanny state SAYS they know what is best doesnt fix it. Let people LIVE their lives,, Life isnt without risk,, As frikken crazy as Bill Mahr is,, we finally agree,, What good is being alive if ya cant Live your life? Forcing people into poverty , telling them its what is best for them? REally? Even if youre factually correct, youre Morrally WRONG,, People have a right to risk their lives to make a living, If YOure SKEERT,, STAY yer Bitchass Home |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by Eegore on 05/18/20 at 20:11:45 "What good is being alive if ya cant Live your life?" You wont be alive if people are allowed to infect others without attempts to stop it. That doesn't mean that the Stay at home orders are ideal solutions. But it also doesn't mean we should just let a virus annihilate nursing homes, meat factories, medical centers. "If YOure SKEERT,, STAY yer Bitchass Home" The problem I have with this is that if a person had Tuberculosis and wants to get on a bus it would be expected that everyone else get off the bus so the TB person can ride. |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/20 at 21:14:37 You wouldnt try to play chikkenshit games would you? Are We SERIOUSLY talk about TB or are we talkin about a REcent, Hyped up load f nuts? Colorado has made a stunning and significant change to the way it counts COVID-19 deaths that reduced the statewide figure from more than 1,000 to 878, according to a report. The change came after Colorado’s Department of Public Health admitted that its COVID-19 death toll was counting those who tested positive for the coronavirus but had died of other causes, Fox 31 Denver reported late Friday. The department now says 1,150 Coloradoans who died had COVID-19 but only 878 of those deaths were “due to” COVID-19. Thats what they will admit to,, Im bettin on it being more.. You can pretend what ya want, man,, I do think youre a good guy,, but I think youre sold to Awthoritah,, and not really understanding the Spirit that made America what America WAS.. God bless TRump and help him drag us back to a place where the average person can prosper |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/20 at 21:18:02 That doesn't mean that the Stay at home orders are ideal solutions. But it also doesn't mean we should just let a virus annihilate nursing homes, meat factories, medical centers. Load of carp on laod of crap.. Cuomo SHIPPED sick into nursing homes,, while they begged him not to,, HE should go to jail,, How funny is it that meat plants are so swamped with it,,but Wal Mart ISNT!!//?? How the FUKK about that? And did you SEE the percentage of meat plant workers who wer asymptomatic!!?? It was Phenominal!! |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by Eegore on 05/18/20 at 21:56:57 "Cuomo SHIPPED sick into nursing homes,, while they begged him not to,, HE should go to jail,," And the nursing homes in states where this didn't happen? "How funny is it that meat plants are so swamped with it,,but Wal Mart ISNT!!//?? How the FUKK about that?" There's a ton of reasons for that. So since Wal Mart didn't have an outbreak like a number of meat packaging plants we shouldn't take precautions. I'd be interested in an outline of how similar meat packaging an Wal mart are to one another in regards to employee contact. "And did you SEE the percentage of meat plant workers who wer asymptomatic!!?? It was Phenominal!!" I did. Did you READ the information I posted per your request outlining that asymptomatic people you claim aren't counted in situations like this actually are? Of course not. |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/20 at 22:13:05 You wanna offer that in a less than an hours reading offering? Im not gonna read twenty pages,, SHOW me what youre talkin about,, copy and paste,, Im not readin a book to find a sentence |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/20 at 22:15:23 "How funny is it that meat plants are so swamped with it,,but Wal Mart ISNT!!//?? How the FUKK about that?" There's a ton of reasons for that.. Like how many odd people just walk thru meat plants? And how Wal Mart is filled by the same people every day,, Yeah,, Im gettin it,, Well, maybe not,, perhaps youd expound on , ohh,, five hundred ounds worth of those 2,000 [ounds of reasons,, |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by WebsterMark on 05/19/20 at 04:58:19 I’ve been maybe 2/3’s of the nation’s largest beef plants. Every time I see news about one on TV, I’ve been there. Air pressure inside the processing areas of a food plant are purposely kept higher than outside. It’s called positive pressure, it’s like working inside a balloon. The idea is to make it very hard for airborne pathogens to slip inside an open window, under doors etc... workers stand next to each other doing manual labor for hours at a time. All those conditions lead to a riskier environment. However, there’s another risk which may turn out to be far more important. Most production workers at major beef plants are immigrants who live in communities and cultures not the same as what you may call historical Americans. They happily live clustered together in large groups. Large food plants are often in the middle of nowhere which means workers generally carpool long distances every day. All of these factors add up to beef plants being miniature New York City type environments. I believe when this is all over that’s ultimately what the conclusion is going to be as to why beef plants had high infection rates. |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/19/20 at 05:21:28 and,, asymptomatics are well represented,, so, why shut down? Talk about Essential,, our food supply lines have to be opened, |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by Eegore on 05/19/20 at 05:53:04 "and,, asymptomatics are well represented,, so, why shut down?" You know that asymptomatics are the biggest problem right? ' If one is asymptomatic they are potentially contagious, but show no symptoms. So they spread the disease, with nobody's knowledge. You are acting like asymptomatic means immune, and that is not true in any capacity. Many asymptomatic start to show symptoms and get sick. We would be far better off if the virus showed symptoms prior to contagion potential. |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/19/20 at 07:05:59 Everyone knows that every CV infected person spreads it. And, those who are infected but the symptoms havent hit yet are asymptomatic, until they arent. Lets not pretend there are , to me, an unknown, not even estimated number, who NEVER show symptoms,,So,, without that, I cant have an idea about what makes sense.. And considering the way this has been handled,, I dont really trust anyone to tell the truth. |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by MnSpring on 05/19/20 at 07:18:28 4B6B69617C6B0E0 wrote:
Sure, expect the Villagers to get out the pitchforks and scythes. If that person really has Tuberculosis. What if, the government just, ‘SAYS” they have Tuberculosis ???? That is a HUGE part of the ‘coverup’, which is now unraveling. |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by Serowbot on 05/19/20 at 07:24:36 Bad news,... foil hats don't protect from Covid... |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/19/20 at 07:34:38 But open borders somehow stops TB? Open borders are responsible for the resurgence of tb |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by MnSpring on 05/19/20 at 07:44:01 0E2E2C24392E4B0 wrote:
Can you tell us what you did, when Colorado decided it would throw away the Majority of it’s Citizens vote, if they did not Vote, lock step, with Calf & NY ? (the popular vote) Did you, … complain (ing) online and hand (ing) out business cards (that) people throw in the trash?... |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by MnSpring on 05/19/20 at 08:43:07 6B747275686F5E6E5E66747833010 wrote:
A-Yep ! |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by verslagen1 on 05/19/20 at 08:52:58 1C3C3E362B3C590 wrote:
Not so much garbage logic. beauticians can't open their shops, make 1on1 appointments in their shop or at your home w/out being threatened w/pulling their license. and a sheriffs wife traveled out of state for a beauty appointment only to be publicly shamed. those politicians are not self haircutting, they would look a lot worse if they did. |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by WebsterMark on 05/19/20 at 09:43:33 746B6D6A7770417141796B672C1E0 wrote:
I’m not saying they should shut down. Actually I’m saying what needs to be looked at is more than just what happens at a food processing facility. You need to look at the demographics of those testing positive and verify where the likely infection came from. Unfortunately in today’s world of political correctness, that’s not possible to do because to do that you would have to label someone style of living or culture as risky. |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by Eegore on 05/19/20 at 11:16:27 "Can you tell us what you did, when Colorado decided it would throw away the Majority of it’s Citizens vote, if they did not Vote, lock step, with Calf & NY ? (the popular vote) Did you, … complain (ing) online and hand (ing) out business cards (that) people throw in the trash?..." I didn't do any of those things. The difference here is that I don't complain about things I don't do anything about, which is why you haven't seen me comment on that issue. I certainly do not go to your threads and try to connect everything to my questions about Trump nobody will answer. I have worked in medical logistics so my contributions, including the implementation of national policy, have been in that field. You like those pre-existing coverage protections? You're welcome. For now I am not dealing with anything beyond the current medical supply issues, I just spent 4 days in DC making sure nursing homes get more supply priority. I created a system to bypass lengthy Federal testing and allocate it to local accredited labs. Your issue with CO votes is not my issue at this time. |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by Eegore on 05/19/20 at 11:19:44 "But open borders somehow stops TB? Open borders are responsible for the resurgence of tb" Nobody said open borders stop TB. Nobody here said anything like that. |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by MnSpring on 05/21/20 at 16:08:46 4060626A7760050 wrote:
That is correct, Nobody, HERE, said that ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by MnSpring on 05/21/20 at 16:18:41 1535373F2235500 wrote:
Well when a State, decides to throw away the VOTES, of it's Citizens, when they do not match the, 'popular vote', of Calf./NY, It then becomes, a Issue of mine, ! |
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Title: Re: Some of these are REally hard to answer,, Post by Eegore on 05/21/20 at 21:00:49 "Well when a State, decides to throw away the VOTES, of it's Citizens, when they do not match the, 'popular vote', of Calf./NY, It then becomes, a Issue of mine, !" I very specifically called it "Your issue". To clarify: I acknowledge that you have issue with the voting procedures of CO among other states. |
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