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Title: Key ignition "fix"? Post by Tacopimp on 04/30/20 at 13:53:53 I was getting new tires put on yesterday. The mechanic accidentally left the key in the position all the way up which is the Park lights. So when he handed it back to me the battery needed a quick charge. Is there a way to eliminate that position on the key? Like maybe a wire to clip on there? I don't really see the need for that anyhow. Thanks! EDIT: I am looking to eliminate all power draw in the key's "park" position, not eliminate the parking light. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by verslagen1 on 04/30/20 at 14:49:55 Yes, many have succumbed to this trap. I don't know where it's required to have the rear lamp on when parked. But leaving it on for a number of hours always results in a dead battery. I don't remember if it's the tail running light or the license plate light. Just snipping it could get you a ticket. I would change it to an low power LED and call it good. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by Tacopimp on 04/30/20 at 14:55:08 7D6E7978676A6C6E653A0B0 wrote:
Every light on my bike is low voltage LED. You are confusing my question though. I do NOT want to eliminate the light, that light is on when the key is in the "on" position which is good.... I am looking to simply eliminate the 3rd key position where the parking light is just on by itself for pretty much no reason. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by verslagen1 on 04/30/20 at 15:39:12 4772707C637A7E63130 wrote:
Naw, you are confusing my answer. I know there's no reason locally for it, I hate to go to some poodunk town and have sgt. pusser work me over for some freaken light. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by Tacopimp on 04/30/20 at 16:01:28 150611100F0204060D52630 wrote:
Naw, you are confusing my answer. I know there's no reason locally for it, I hate to go to some poodunk town and have sgt. pusser work me over for some freaken light.[/quote] But the light still works and is on when the bike is on. I'm not trying to clip the wire for the light. I'm just trying to stop the bike from have the electric on on when the key is in the 3rd position. Of all the bikes I have had, none have had this. And the search inside on here it seems a handful of people swapped the ignition out for a 2 position one. There is nothing requiring that 3rd position since the parking lights will come on in the "on" position. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by verslagen1 on 04/30/20 at 16:32:03 you'd have to clip the brown wire off the back of the ig switch and resolder it to one of the main wires. I don't know if you'd have to disassemble the switch to do it. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by Tacopimp on 04/30/20 at 16:34:15 23302726393432303B64550 wrote:
Ok cool. Do you k ow which of the wires I could tie that brown wire into? |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by batman on 04/30/20 at 20:06:17 It may seem a good idea to cut the wires and just use the switch, but if the switch is in the on position for any length of time you could have much bigger problems than a dead battery. I would much rather suffer that than a toasted ignition TDI. There was no need for you to leave your key in the bike to begin with , not to change tires , shame on you! |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by Tacopimp on 04/30/20 at 20:19:01 5556435A5659030F370 wrote:
You need to read buddy. I don't leave my key in the bike. I never have. If you read my original post you would see that I said the mechanic left my key in the bike. So I guess shame on you for not reading. I pull the key when I am done. I don't leave my key in the on position unless I am riding the bike. Fun fact though, you can pull the key out when it is in the "park" position and well then you can kill your battery, where if I did what I am asking here how to eliminate the power draw in the "park" position there would be no issue...with anything. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by Gary_in_NJ on 05/01/20 at 04:09:29 Make a guard the doesn’t allow rotation beyond the off position. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by Tacopimp on 05/01/20 at 06:35:24 3D373339323B3F36686E6A5A0 wrote:
Good idea, has anyone done anything like this? |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by batman on 05/01/20 at 06:56:32 My reading skills seem to be fine , yours may need a little work. "the mechanic left my key in the bike" doesn't chime with I NEVER leave my key in the bike. It seems apparently you do. None the less ,I 'll toss you a bone ,cause I'm a nice guy ::) there are Four wires that run between the key switch and the connector , there 's a red, and orange, and two others that may vary depending on year. cut the two others and wire them together so they return through the connector and your done. except for taping off the two leads on the back of the key switch that should not be joined. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by Tacopimp on 05/01/20 at 07:03:29 484B5E474B441E122A0 wrote:
My mechanic came up with this crazy new concept where I give him the key while he works on my bike. Don't try and be clever after you look like an idiot. Clown. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by batman on 05/01/20 at 07:30:19 Perhaps you might learn how to work on the bike yourself ,you may learn how to read a an electrical diagram and see how to bypass the key switch as I've shown in the above post. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by norm92de on 05/01/20 at 07:32:17 If it were me I'd go in and modify the switch. Not too difficult. I have thought about doing it but am too lazy. :) |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by batman on 05/01/20 at 07:34:06 Morm look at my second post above |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by Tacopimp on 05/01/20 at 07:45:40 3A3B26396D663031540 wrote:
Yeah I am ok with doing something like that. Guess I will have to open it up and take a look. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by youzguyz on 05/01/20 at 07:49:17 Take this for what it is worth. First, I thought I had an old switch, as I wore one out. I don't. Modifying the switch would be my preferred method. Wires on the back of the switch are: (Same on ALL years as far as I can tell) Red - goes to battery Orange - connects to Red when switch is ON Brown - goes to tail light (& license plate light on some years) Gray - goes all over the place. This is a power source after running through other things. ON- connects Red/Orange and Gray/Brown (this what powers the tail light in the on position) PARK - connects Red/Brown - the culprit Disconnect switch. At the molex connector for the switch, cut the brown wire, hook it up to the Orange wire. I think that will work. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by youzguyz on 05/01/20 at 08:02:24 Found my old switch!!!.. stand by.. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by youzguyz on 05/01/20 at 08:09:36 63756F607D6F63601A0 wrote:
The back of the molex has TWO Brown wires. When you open the switch, you will see that one mounts next to the red wire and the other mounts next to the gray wire. Cut the one that mounts next to the red wire. The one on the top in the foto. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by Tacopimp on 05/01/20 at 08:19:31 2E38222D30222E2D570 wrote:
The back of the molex has TWO Brown wires. When you open the switch, you will see that one mounts next to the red wire and the other mounts next to the gray wire. Cut the one that mounts next to the red wire. The one on the top in the foto.[/quote] Ok, so clipping that wire doesn't affect anything when in the on position right? Just the park position correct? Thanks so much for the pics too. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by youzguyz on 05/01/20 at 08:21:12 5C696B6778616578080 wrote:
The back of the molex has TWO Brown wires. When you open the switch, you will see that one mounts next to the red wire and the other mounts next to the gray wire. Cut the one that mounts next to the red wire. The one on the top in the foto.[/quote] Ok, so clipping that wire doesn't affect anything when in the on position right? Just the park position correct? Thanks so much for the pics too. [/quote] Correct. When in the ON position, bottom brown hooks to gray. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by Tacopimp on 05/01/20 at 08:29:03 63756F607D6F63601A0 wrote:
The back of the molex has TWO Brown wires. When you open the switch, you will see that one mounts next to the red wire and the other mounts next to the gray wire. Cut the one that mounts next to the red wire. The one on the top in the foto.[/quote] Ok, so clipping that wire doesn't affect anything when in the on position right? Just the park position correct? Thanks so much for the pics too. [/quote] Correct. When in the ON position, bottom brown hooks to gray. [/quote] Awesome! Thank you. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by norm92de on 05/01/20 at 13:57:04 Tacopimp, youzguyz has it. The TWO brown wires are not shown in Clymers or Suzuki's manuals, just one wire. Makes all the difference. |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by Hiko on 05/04/20 at 20:32:23 Youzguyz Thank you for this I think even I can tackle this and get rid of a problem that I dont need Up date Did this today desoldered the brown wire covered the end with heatshrink as I like to have a fallback position Easy to do and works fine Another reason this forum is great Thanks again |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by hotprops on 05/23/22 at 11:46:56 does the light for the license plate still work? and does the year of bike make a difference . mine is a 2008 |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by buster6315 on 05/23/22 at 20:44:17 7E4B49455A43475A2A0 wrote:
The back of the molex has TWO Brown wires. When you open the switch, you will see that one mounts next to the red wire and the other mounts next to the gray wire. Cut the one that mounts next to the red wire. The one on the top in the foto.[/quote] Ok, so clipping that wire doesn't affect anything when in the on position right? Just the park position correct? Thanks so much for the pics too. [/quote] Correct. When in the ON position, bottom brown hooks to gray. [/quote] Awesome! Thank you. [/quote] I like that modification: prior owner had to replace battery after leaving switch in the 'parked' position |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by hotprops on 05/23/22 at 21:07:24 thanks, will work on it asap. 2 batteries down the drain . |
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Title: Re: Key ignition "fix"? Post by buster6315 on 05/25/22 at 11:42:56 2423383C3E233C3F4C0 wrote:
I've gotten in the habit of glancing at the tail light to ensure it is extinguished when I shut off the ignition. (lefty off) |
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