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Message started by raydawg on 01/30/20 at 07:46:05

Title: About this whistle blower......
Post by raydawg on 01/30/20 at 07:46:05

Why are we not investigating why the procedure was changed, and who changed it, and when?

That seems a very important element to address, if out of nowhere, and nobody is made aware of, or discussed this change, prior to its implementation.... against Trump.

To its it like making a law to up after you do something, just to be able to charge you with something.....
That is not fair and just on its face!

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by Serowbot on 01/30/20 at 08:19:31

What change?...

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by srinath on 01/30/20 at 11:52:08

Who even cares. This shiiete is confusing as a bowl of spagetti, a clustergruck the size of Jupiter and boring as well Schiff.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by raydawg on 01/30/20 at 16:05:16

Look here:  CNN anchor John King defended Republicans on Thursday, arguing they made a "legitimate point" in asking why the intelligence community whistleblower -- who brought the complaint that prompted Trump's impeachment -- hadn't been questioned.

"You're asking the Congress, the Senate now, to remove the President of the United States," King said. "It's a legitimate point for the president's team and the Republicans to say: 'Shouldn't we go to the very origin of this?'"


+1

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by raydawg on 01/30/20 at 16:13:01


6670677A62777A61150 wrote:
What change?...


It was reported early on that the criteria had changed re: whistle blower requirements, that it had to be first hand knowledge..... not heresy.

It has been argued that is not the case, but in doing so, they say this whistle blower does have first hand knowledge on some matters involved....
Why even make that argument, if its a moot point?

Also, some say this requirement was altered after the whistle-blowing complaint was filed, to remove such a requirement of "firsthand knowledge"

I don't know, but that is why we need to investigate this claim....

IF true, it changes everything.....we saw how they lied in the FISA warrants, to try and get stuff on Trump.....

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by Eegore on 01/30/20 at 16:36:28

 The law wasn't changed.

Office of the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community’s Statement on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints is a change in a specific form.

 Unless of course the OIG is in on it too and are actually changing law, but no lawyer anywhere in the world can find it.

 Read form ICWSP Form 401 before and after the change, it is very obvious there is no change in law.  It's impossible to change law with that form.

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by raydawg on 01/30/20 at 17:00:45


0424262E3324410 wrote:
 The law wasn't changed.

Office of the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community’s Statement on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints is a change in a specific form.

 Unless of course the OIG is in on it too and are actually changing law, but no lawyer anywhere in the world can find it.

 Read form ICWSP Form 401 before and after the change, it is very obvious there is no change in law.  It's impossible to change law with that form.


Are you a expert on this....or like a member of the CIA, FBI, etc...that said the FISA stuff was accurate too?

We do know someone changed some "dates" on another form, or something....right.
Why is it all of these mistakes seem to go against Trump, and give favor and unfair advantage, to those seeking to get rid of him, from day one?

You don't find that suspect?

I think we need a investigation, into why all these mistakes, seem to be going in one direction.......

I'll wait until I can get a unbiased, or should I say...tainted, opine.... thanks anyway.  

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by pg on 01/30/20 at 17:02:26

What a coincidence that the form was changed a week or two before the whistleblower who has yet to be named and who had no communication with anyone regarding the quid pro quo that didn't happen....


Best regards,

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by Eegore on 01/30/20 at 17:47:54


"Are you a expert on this....or like a member of the CIA, FBI, etc...that said the FISA stuff was accurate too?"

 No.

We do know someone changed some "dates" on another form, or something....right.

 No.  "Someone" is the OIG.  They changed no dates, they changed form  ICWSP Form 401.


Why is it all of these mistakes seem to go against Trump, and give favor and unfair advantage, to those seeking to get rid of him, from day one?

 What mistakes?  The question is was a "Law" changed.  There wasn't any changes to law.


You don't find that suspect?

 No.  There was no law changed.


"I think we need a investigation, into why all these mistakes, seem to be going in one direction.......

I'll wait until I can get a unbiased, or should I say...tainted, opine.... thanks anyway.
"

 Ok.  Can you reference what law was changed?

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by Eegore on 01/30/20 at 17:51:03


"What a coincidence that the form was changed a week or two before the whistleblower who has yet to be named and who had no communication with anyone regarding the quid pro quo that didn't happen...."


 It is suspect that a change would happen, specifically to that form, at that time.

 What people fail to understand is no law has changed.  Specifically law and only law in exclusivity, as in no other thing of any form in any known way shape or form.  

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by raydawg on 01/30/20 at 21:25:04

What people fail to understand is no law has changed.  Specifically law and only law in exclusivity, as in no other thing of any form in any known way shape or form

Can you point me to where I said..... law.

I will ask you if you mean law is in: "It's against the law to come into the states, illegally......yes, that kinda law?

Oh, BTW, did it make you feel better, your reply, seems your "in no other thing of any form in any known way shape or form"......seems a wee bit over the top, like you have a point to prove?

I took the liberty of emboldening the operative word, in your statement.....maybe someone does know, and that is why we should investigate it BEFORE we go further down this road.

But in reality, it makes no difference, as the transcript of the call is known, by many......and they didn't hear any quid pro quo, spoken, or any other matters that broke the law, that would require removal of the president from office.....did you?  

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/30/20 at 22:43:32

Ray, you're being a logic Nazi

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by srinath on 01/31/20 at 02:32:06


213E383F22251424142C3E32794B0 wrote:
Ray, you're being a logic Nazi




Not to mention boring as fruck. And confusing too.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by raydawg on 01/31/20 at 07:23:20


34352E2926332F470 wrote:
[quote author=213E383F22251424142C3E32794B0 link=1580399165/0#11 date=1580453012]Ray, you're being a logic Nazi




Not to mention boring as fruck. And confusing too.

Cool.
Srinath.[/quote]

Does that mean our date is off?  :-?

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by srinath on 01/31/20 at 08:09:28


25362E33362030570 wrote:
[quote author=34352E2926332F470 link=1580399165/0#12 date=1580466726][quote author=213E383F22251424142C3E32794B0 link=1580399165/0#11 date=1580453012]Ray, you're being a logic Nazi




Not to mention boring as fruck. And confusing too.

Cool.
Srinath.[/quote]

Does that mean our date is off?  :-?
[/quote]



What am I a Buttagig ??? Or Stalin Castro, Qhe sadly is in the middle of a gender re-assessment, I think qhe has figured if qhe sould be 9he, it actually would let qhim get handouts from Warren as a Native American and a black slave, as well as the free toaster from the Lesbian coalition.

You're not boring, as long as you don't talk impeachment shstttete in detail. The impeachment is boring.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by raydawg on 01/31/20 at 12:34:43


7C7D66616E7B670F0 wrote:
[quote author=25362E33362030570 link=1580399165/0#13 date=1580484200][quote author=34352E2926332F470 link=1580399165/0#12 date=1580466726][quote author=213E383F22251424142C3E32794B0 link=1580399165/0#11 date=1580453012]Ray, you're being a logic Nazi




Not to mention boring as fruck. And confusing too.

Cool.
Srinath.[/quote]

Does that mean our date is off?  :-?
[/quote]



What am I a Buttagig ??? Or Stalin Castro, Qhe sadly is in the middle of a gender re-assessment, I think qhe has figured if qhe sould be 9he, it actually would let qhim get handouts from Warren as a Native American and a black slave, as well as the free toaster from the Lesbian coalition.

You're not boring, as long as you don't talk impeachment shstttete in detail. The impeachment is boring.

Cool.
Srinath.[/quote]

So....the date is on then....???  :-*

You gonna ride over, two up, with Bot?

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by srinath on 01/31/20 at 13:23:45


4F5C44595C4A5A3D0 wrote:
So....the date is on then....???  :-*

You gonna ride over, two up, with Bot?



If I swung that way - wellllll outtta your league raybabe.

Here's Buttagig's number though - watch your PM. And watch out he's got some wild PMs symptoms.
And Stalin Castro once 9he's assigned 9he's open for bidness.

Bot - Sorry, you're gonna have to pair up with one of those 2 and ride up 2 up or 3 up - I think Camela Hairs also available though yhe's not identified which way yhe swings. And for which species.


Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by srinath on 01/31/20 at 13:37:17

Hey … wasn't Whistle blower Monica Lewinsky's Secret service code name …
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by raydawg on 01/31/20 at 15:42:29


1312090E011408600 wrote:
[quote author=4F5C44595C4A5A3D0 link=1580399165/15#15 date=1580502883]
So....the date is on then....???  :-*

You gonna ride over, two up, with Bot?



If I swung that way - wellllll outtta your league raybabe.

Here's Buttagig's number though - watch your PM. And watch out he's got some wild PMs symptoms.
And Stalin Castro once 9he's assigned 9he's open for bidness.

Bot - Sorry, you're gonna have to pair up with one of those 2 and ride up 2 up or 3 up - I think Camela Hairs also available though yhe's not identified which way yhe swings. And for which species.


Cool.
Srinath.[/quote]

Don't think Bot could handle Kammie Harris.....rumor is, he is way too short.

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by Eegore on 01/31/20 at 16:04:48


"Can you point me to where I said..... law."

 No.  


I will ask you if you mean law is in: "It's against the law to come into the states, illegally......yes, that kinda law?

 Yes.

Oh, BTW, did it make you feel better, your reply, seems your "in no other thing of any form in any known way shape or form"......seems a wee bit over the top, like you have a point to prove?

 My point is to enforce that the sentences in this post apply to this post and in context to how the entire sentence is used within this post.  Not to be taken out of context, partially, and altered, in an attempt to delegitimize sentences in a different post that have nothing to do with this conversation in context or topic.  In no known way, shape or form.


I took the liberty of emboldening the operative word, in your statement.....maybe someone does know, and that is why we should investigate it BEFORE we go further down this road.

 I can't see the post at this time, I don't know what is in bold but will check it later.


But in reality, it makes no difference, as the transcript of the call is known, by many......and they didn't hear any quid pro quo, spoken, or any other matters that broke the law, that would require removal of the president from office.....did you?  

 I'm not familiar enough with the full context of the laws and procedures to have an opinion about removal specifically.  Criteria in legal form is enforced by law.  What I do know is the criteria did not change, as in the legal enforcement did not change, the wording on the form did however.

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by srinath on 01/31/20 at 18:33:59


37243C21243222450 wrote:
Don't think Bot could handle Kammie Harris.....rumor is, he is way too short.



But rumor is, whistle BLOWER is Monica Lewinsky and as has been proven, she's a whale, can handle harpoon all the way to #2 needle.

Mute - yea Mute, thankfully isn't deaf mute point Mr Dawg.
Cool..
Srinath.

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by verslagen1 on 02/03/20 at 07:27:12


3B28302D283E2E490 wrote:
[quote author=1312090E011408600 link=1580399165/15#16 date=1580505825][quote author=4F5C44595C4A5A3D0 link=1580399165/15#15 date=1580502883]
So....the date is on then....???  :-*

You gonna ride over, two up, with Bot?



If I swung that way - wellllll outtta your league raybabe.

Here's Buttagig's number though - watch your PM. And watch out he's got some wild PMs symptoms.
And Stalin Castro once 9he's assigned 9he's open for bidness.

Bot - Sorry, you're gonna have to pair up with one of those 2 and ride up 2 up or 3 up - I think Camela Hairs also available though yhe's not identified which way yhe swings. And for which species.


Cool.
Srinath.[/quote]

Don't think Bot could handle Kammie Harris.....rumor is, he is way too short.
[/quote]

He can borrow bloomberg's box... if he needs one.   ;)

Title: Re: About this whistle blower......
Post by raydawg on 02/03/20 at 07:55:35


796A7D7C636E686A613E0F0 wrote:
[quote author=3B28302D283E2E490 link=1580399165/15#18 date=1580514149][quote author=1312090E011408600 link=1580399165/15#16 date=1580505825][quote author=4F5C44595C4A5A3D0 link=1580399165/15#15 date=1580502883]
So....the date is on then....???  :-*

You gonna ride over, two up, with Bot?



If I swung that way - wellllll outtta your league raybabe.

Here's Buttagig's number though - watch your PM. And watch out he's got some wild PMs symptoms.
And Stalin Castro once 9he's assigned 9he's open for bidness.

Bot - Sorry, you're gonna have to pair up with one of those 2 and ride up 2 up or 3 up - I think Camela Hairs also available though yhe's not identified which way yhe swings. And for which species.


Cool.
Srinath.[/quote]

Don't think Bot could handle Kammie Harris.....rumor is, he is way too short.
[/quote]

He can borrow bloomberg's box... if he needs one.   ;)[/quote]

lol.....good one  ;D

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