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Message started by eau de sauvage on 12/21/19 at 17:32:01

Title: 25% more want Trump removal than do not.
Post by eau de sauvage on 12/21/19 at 17:32:01

Looked at this way, which is the most realistic metric it shows that in spite of Trump's endless tricks and circuses and the screechlings in the House defending Trump without regard to trashing any legacy or respect they might have been able to garner even after 3 years of toadying.

So imagine these two groups, one 25% larger than the other, that is a decent wedge, nothing's going to change their minds if it hasn't already. This is pretty darning. That's 'removal', as opposed to 'impeached but not removed.'

My interest in all this in case no one was wondering, is that I can already see that this will be one of those momentous events that shape world history, in maybe 30 years when we've had enough time to see how Brexit and the new alliances work out.



I sense, or maybe I hope that you septics are not as vacant as you seem if we judge you by the political advertisements that are allowed. It's easy to get fooled by Trump's propaganda, this is why when I read  the powerful words by Judge William Webster in the NYT, I think 'yeah, of course they'll vote him out'. But really I do not know which way you people will vote.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/opinion/FBI-Trump-russia-investigation.html

It would seem to me that the best strategy for the GOP, to still have a chance of winning while at the same time redeeming themselves, by admitting the evidence of Bolton by calling Trump's bluff and then remove him, put it all behind them and blame it on him. Not that I want them to do this, I'd rather watch it play out as it does, that's what's interesting, nevertheless that would be a good strategy. Trump's already done the dirty work.

If they did decide to go down this pragmatic road, they have already marked themselves are opportunistic hypocrites par excellence. So they would just have to agree to Bolton and Mulvaney to testify, under the pretext of being fair, then they can claim to be shocked at what has suddenly been revealed. Problem with this though is that there's been so many lies told already that they dare not open themselves up to testimony under oath. This entire impeachment snd subsequent trial, has not even gotten to second gear yet. The Reds are going to be tangled up in a blue web of their own design.

The Republicans have been hoist with their own retard, in the form of The Donald Lame Duck Trump.

Whichever way it goes it will define America for the next century.


Title: Re: 25% more want Trump removal than do not.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/22/19 at 06:48:15

Trump will likely win in 2020. Assuming he remains in office until 2024, its not like Trump will be forgotten as he's forever changed the office of the President. The office no longer belongs to career politicians or military officers. But, there's no one like Trump. No one like Trump will ever be elected again. And they shouldn't be.

No one can predict what the world will look like in 2024 but my guess at this point in time is everyone will be tired of a personality like Trump. He filled his role, saved the nation for a while longer. I have no idea who or what type of personality on the Republican side could take his place.

Title: Re: 25% more want Trump removal than do not.
Post by srinath on 12/22/19 at 07:38:58


6D5F58494E5F48775B48513A0 wrote:
Trump will likely win in 2020. Assuming he remains in office until 2024, its not like Trump will be forgotten as he's forever changed the office of the President. The office no longer belongs to career politicians or military officers. But, there's no one like Trump. No one like Trump will ever be elected again. And they shouldn't be.

No one can predict what the world will look like in 2024 but my guess at this point in time is everyone will be tired of a personality like Trump. He filled his role, saved the nation for a while longer. I have no idea who or what type of personality on the Republican side could take his place.




Come on man, pay attention The AOCialist has declared the world "as we know it" will be over. AOC and REM have both said it, so it must be true.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: 25% more want Trump removal than do not.
Post by Serowbot on 12/22/19 at 08:33:42


7A484F5E59485F604C5F462D0 wrote:
I have no idea who or what type of personality on the Republican side could take his place.

It's up to Putin...
Maybe he'll pick Kanye...

Title: Re: 25% more want Trump removal than do not.
Post by eau de sauvage on 12/22/19 at 16:04:20


2533243921343922560 wrote:
[quote author=7A484F5E59485F604C5F462D0 link=1576978321/0#1 date=1577026095]I have no idea who or what type of personality on the Republican side could take his place.

It's up to Putin...
Maybe he'll pick Kanye...
[/quote]


Even Putin has chimed in. I seriously think he's trolling the entire US, he's probably more interested than the chaos rather than that Trump actually gets in although it was a pretty big bonus last go.

US policy is already aligned with Russia, Putin has just announced he's going to extend his reign till 2024. Why not have a single dual presidency for both countries. Throw in Alaska as a sweetener.

https://www.npr.org/2019/12/19/789718925/vladimir-putin-backs-trump-calling-impeachment-charges-completely-made-up

Actually on second thought Putin has the power to shelter Trump from the inevitable prosecution. He could build his Trump Moscow hotel and he could be made honorary Vice president... permanently with a nice braided jacket. They could go horse riding and golfing together. When you see Putin holding Trump's wee tiny little hand, the love you see is not faked, there's genuine mutual affection.

I predict that in the years to come when Donald Trump is just another schlub facing a long jail term or the rest of his life fighting it. Imagine the sh!t he's going to be in when his protective and temporary Presidential shell is gone. He is so fcucked, bigly.

Title: Re: 25% more want Trump removal than do not.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/23/19 at 04:18:52

I predict that in the years to come when Donald Trump is just another schlub facing a long jail term or the rest of his life fighting it. Imagine the sh!t he's going to be in when his protective and temporary Presidential shell is gone. He is so fcucked, bigly.

Nothing remotely close to this will come to pass.

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