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Title: Gun Control -Politely Post by NHLycan on 12/08/19 at 12:06:32 Who should not be allowed to own firearms? Felons who have served their terms Felons on parole Misdemeanor convicts Animal abusers Stalkers People under a protective order People who have killed legally Illegal immigrants Unnaturalized residents Tourists Green card holders Convicted domestic abusers Accused domestic abusers The suicidal Junkies Alcoholics Those who have been involuntarily committed Those who have voluntarily committed themselves Other clinically insane conditions Drunk drivers The brain damaged Tourette's syndrome sufferers Chromosomal defectives Alzheimer's patients Parkinson's patients The blind The near blind Children under 18 Or 16 Or 12 Adults over 80 The elderly who are no longer allowed to drive Rest home residents Sociopaths Pathological liars The depressed People on antipsychotics I'm sure there are people on this list who you disagree with denying their 2nd A rights. And there are probably people who you would add. Or maybe you're an absolutist. In either direction. But it's a conversation we should be able to have politely. |
Title: Re: Gun Control -Politely Post by zevenenergie on 12/08/19 at 12:21:28 There are vulnerable people are on your list and they should certainly have a weapon. And there are people on the list who have witnessed or are experiencing a lot of violence from close by, they should also have a weapon. All the people not on the list should hand in their weapons. |
Title: Re: Gun Control -Politely Post by pg on 12/08/19 at 15:04:43 Gun control is best defined as 'sub moa'. Best regards, |
Title: Re: Gun Control -Politely Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/08/19 at 16:49:00 Gun control Failed policy Freedom Armed citizens Winning |
Title: Re: Gun Control -Politely Post by MnSpring on 12/08/19 at 17:09:50 5F595D6872707F110 wrote:
Getting ideas for 'red laws' ? "Neighbor is one of those nasty people that believe in freedom, gotta do sompen about him/her !" |
Title: Re: Gun Control -Politely Post by Eegore on 12/08/19 at 18:22:13 "People who have killed legally" This is a rough one. All military with combat kills can no longer carry a weapon, or would this only apply after discharge? Law enforcement that saves a life by means of deadly force will have to be terminated so they can hire someone who has not legally killed a person. Anyone working in state corrections with capital punishment, or maybe just the medical staff member who administers the medications? "Alcoholics" Another one that would be interesting to uphold. Does "recovering" count, as in people in Alcoholics Anonymous that have decades of sobriety and work as counselors? How would one be clinically and criminally designated as an alcoholic? Native Americans with genetic predisposition for alcohol abuse? "Children under 18" Children under 18 can not "own" firearms already. "Drunk drivers" Already illegal, are you asking if we should legalize the possession of a weapon while one is committing a DUI? Or are you saying if you were convicted of a DUI you can no longer legally own a firearm? |
Title: Re: Gun Control -Politely Post by raydawg on 12/08/19 at 18:37:05 Let's add to that list if you have no real issues against taking a life, regardless of the circumstances..... That alone already proves you inherently view life as a choice, to be made by anyone, but the one which, gets killed. |
Title: Re: Gun Control -Politely Post by Eegore on 12/08/19 at 19:29:31 "Let's add to that list if you have no real issues against taking a life, regardless of the circumstances....." So anyone willing to save themselves, or their wife/child etc. from murder? Hard to enforce that considering one could just claim they would never save their child's life but instead let them die at the hands of others. |
Title: Re: Gun Control -Politely Post by raydawg on 12/09/19 at 06:01:11 6D4D4F475A4D280 wrote:
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Title: Re: Gun Control -Politely Post by Eegore on 12/09/19 at 06:34:49 "Let's add to that list if you have no real issues against taking a life, regardless of the circumstances....." That sounds like taking any human life for any reason under any circumstance. Where is it clarified that you mean abortions? Self defense is a circumstance that can result in the taking of a human life. If a man is going to murder your wife, and you choose to defend her in a manner that may result in his death would be having no "real issue" with taking his life regardless of the circumstances. If a child rapist is actively assaulting your child and you choose to stop him and that method could result in death, then you have no "real issue" with taking his life regardless of the circumstances. Maybe you could have said people that commit or would commit to abortion. |
Title: Re: Gun Control -Politely Post by zevenenergie on 12/09/19 at 06:46:35 Ok on hold tight 8-) Banning guns is not fair. All generations for me, were allowed to shoot someone. I have a lot of anger in me, and I always have to hold that. I was hoping that someone would give me a reason to shoot. If guns are banned, I have to wait until it's war, because in war, I can let go of all frustration and anger and kill and rape. I think I'll just join the army. |
Title: Re: Gun Control -Politely Post by Matchless G11 on 12/09/19 at 17:08:30 6D7261727972797265707E72170 wrote:
"I think the North Koreans could use you in their army" |
Title: Re: Gun Control -Politely Post by Matchless G11 on 12/10/19 at 03:32:09 I hope Zevenenergie is being tongue and cheek. if not may there be a added to your list Nhlycan, Liberals? ;) But if that is the case then Sew and TT would be denied guns. I disagree with both of them, but I see no reason why they should be denied guns. The problem with denying guns is allowing tyrants to take charge. While Hitler had universal gun control (He did not spell out no Jews to have guns) there are examples of places that have. In the United states in Michigan they passed a law years ago that one had to go to the police station to receive their gun after purchase, The lawmakers felt that no black man would step feet in a police station. thus denying a group access to guns. Earlier in the country we kept guns from Indians, (think Wounded Knee) :'( The real problem is one side want to turn guns into demons And the other side a god. It is just a thing, the real evil or good lives in one heart. Until one side recognizes there is a God (and also demons) and the other side stops taking God for granted. We will still be in this mess. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2kCq-nbpqY |
Title: Re: Gun Control -Politely Post by zevenenergie on 12/10/19 at 05:31:08 Dear Matchless G11 Being tongue and cheek well.... yes and no. :-/ In every good man there is evil and in every evil man there is goodness Dit you know; Demon comes from the Greek word "daimoon" and means "deity." At the roots of our fears and pains is a demon who feeds on it. Only when we face our demons do we become free from it. And as long as we do not meet our fears and pains, we are unknowingly directed by it. When we are free from pain and anxiety and all the thoughts that arise from it, Who are we then? And would we want a gun? |
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