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Message started by raydawg on 11/20/19 at 20:44:35

Title: Hows that....???
Post by raydawg on 11/20/19 at 20:44:35

The foundation posted its third straight year of losses following Hillary Clinton's defeat in the 2016 presidential election, according to 2018 tax documents.

The foundation lost $16.8 million on revenue of $30.7 million in 2018, according to the documents. It has posted roughly $16 million in losses every year since 2015, when it had roughly $116 million in revenue.


If it was such a good and worthy cause before why not still....???

What has changed......?????  :-/

source: https://www.foxnews.com/media/peter-schweizer-clinton-foundation-fundraising-influence-tucker-carlson-tonight

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by WebsterMark on 11/21/19 at 05:18:39

I believe I read Ukraine was the largest foreign donor to The Clinton Crime Foundation.

Using the logic of our leftist friends on here, you don't need direct evidence, you only need to be able to link various conversations together under a single umbrella (doesn't matter if those conversations were connected or not) to arrive at "the truth." Clinton Crime Foundation is losing all its donors because Hilary is no longer in a position to deliver the access those donor wanted from a former Senator, Secy of State, Presidential candidate and of course wife to a former President. Therefore, the foundation is a proven crime organization accepting millions of dollars in return for access to people in power. Guilty.

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by Mavigogun on 11/21/19 at 05:29:26

Powerful people leveraging their power to do good- only sociopaths list that as a sin.

Didn't Trump have a "charity"?   I wonder what happened to that... something about stealing money given to veterans and court ordered law familirization classes for the Trumps, as I recall.  

A cursory review of charity review agencies- organizations whose mission is to identify fraud and graft and waste in charitable organizations for givers -give the Clinton Foundation an "A", with an 88% donation conversion to programs.   The Trump Foundation received an "F", has been de-listed as a charity, and was the subject of criminal prosecution.  Of those charities chosen by the Trump Foundation to distribute to after being forced to pay out by court order, many received "F", "D", and "C" ratings.

Judging between the Clintons and the Trumps character as expressed through charity work, the Clintons are the best choice by any sane metric. 

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by T And T Garage on 11/21/19 at 05:45:22


392A322F2A3C2C4B0 wrote:
The foundation posted its third straight year of losses following Hillary Clinton's defeat in the 2016 presidential election, according to 2018 tax documents.

The foundation lost $16.8 million on revenue of $30.7 million in 2018, according to the documents. It has posted roughly $16 million in losses every year since 2015, when it had roughly $116 million in revenue.


If it was such a good and worthy cause before why not still....???

What has changed......?????  :-/

source: https://www.foxnews.com/media/peter-schweizer-clinton-foundation-fundraising-influence-tucker-carlson-tonight




There's not really any story here.

The Clintons have fallen out of favor.  Their charity then suffers.

So?

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by WebsterMark on 11/21/19 at 07:19:32

Fallen out of favor?

You don't suspect any possibility of wrong doing based on the drop off after her defeat and removal from any position of power?

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by Mavigogun on 11/21/19 at 07:35:01


685A5D4C4B5A4D725E4D543F0 wrote:
You don't suspect any possibility...


Etc, etc, ad nauseam.   Suspicion.  Supposition. Suggestion. Innuendo.  Insinuation.  Smear.  Smear.  Smear.

We don't have to wonder if Trump is a crook.  We don't have to guess.   We don't have to blindly cast about, vilifying others to make our choices seem, in some implausible way, wholesome.   Your judgment is broken, Mark.   Your values are debased.

"Don't you suspect.... something?"

No, Mark- you we already know.   You've shown us enough to be certain.

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by raydawg on 11/21/19 at 07:49:05


5B696E7F78697E416D7E670C0 wrote:
Fallen out of favor?

You don't suspect any possibility of wrong doing based on the drop off after her defeat and removal from any position of power?


Yeah...that was my question, Mark, but some seem nefarious things abound, like a paranoia......

If it was a worthy endeavor, bringing about good things and results, that is still of value and worthy, weird that because a name doesn't taste the same, then that is justification to let a good thing wither away....

Just odd, oh well, life is getting stranger everyday it seems.

Do you think because Trump asked the Ukrainian president for a favor, and has been charged by these folks, with devious intentions, that is the kind of favor they were expecting by donating Mark?

Seems to fit....eh?  :-?

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by Mavigogun on 11/21/19 at 07:55:47


71627A67627464030 wrote:
Do you think because Trump asked the Ukrainian president for a favor...


...and there we have the final stage of Trumpism.   First deny.   Then obstruct.   Then shoot the messenger.   Finally arrive at admission through equivocation.

"This is how things are done- get over it."

No, we will not follow you down that toilet.

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by T And T Garage on 11/21/19 at 07:59:44


566463727564734C60736A010 wrote:
Fallen out of favor?

You don't suspect any possibility of wrong doing based on the drop off after her defeat and removal from any position of power?



No.  I think you're thinking of trump's charity. Didn't he spend it on himself?  Didn't he take money earmarked for vets and spend it on his campaign?

This is a simple case of the Clintons not being as popular as they were.

BFD

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by T And T Garage on 11/21/19 at 08:01:18


5E4D55484D5B4B2C0 wrote:
[quote author=5B696E7F78697E416D7E670C0 link=1574311475/0#4 date=1574349572]Fallen out of favor?

You don't suspect any possibility of wrong doing based on the drop off after her defeat and removal from any position of power?


Yeah...that was my question, Mark, but some seem nefarious things abound, like a paranoia......

If it was a worthy endeavor, bringing about good things and results, that is still of value and worthy, weird that because a name doesn't taste the same, then that is justification to let a good thing wither away....

Just odd, oh well, life is getting stranger everyday it seems.

Do you think because Trump asked the Ukrainian president for a favor, and has been charged by these folks, with devious intentions, that is the kind of favor they were expecting by donating Mark?

Seems to fit....eh?  :-?
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ray - see my response to mark.

There is no "there" there.

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by Serowbot on 11/21/19 at 08:01:59

There's a difference between accepting a donation, and extorting a foreign official to commit an illegal act for personal gain using public funds, while subverting the will of Congress.

Your pretzel logic does not compute.

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by raydawg on 11/21/19 at 08:08:54

Oh........

Just up and stopped, the cause, doesn't matter anymore.

OK.

Sorry folks, you'll have to wait, until a lib gets in office, to get any favors, again.....  :-?

OK.

Thanks.

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by T And T Garage on 11/21/19 at 08:14:04

Actually ray, this thread brings up a great question....

Why isn't trump being impeached for illegally running his "charity" through his campaign?


http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=tOMnNab_PLUS_PiNjvAeFP7v54A==

Therefore, he had to dissolve it.



Funny how his supporters overlooked all that and still point to the Clintons.

Talk about snowflakes....

The trumpers need to learn to stay in their lane and own what their president is doing.

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by T And T Garage on 11/21/19 at 08:22:28


73607865607666010 wrote:
Oh........

Just up and stopped, the cause, doesn't matter anymore.

OK.

Sorry folks, you'll have to wait, until a lib gets in office, to get any favors, again.....  :-?

OK.

Thanks.



Wrong.

Look at Obama's foundation.  Remember, he's one of those democrats....

It's going very strong, thanks.

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by Mavigogun on 11/21/19 at 08:30:57


455B545558455E43310 wrote:
The trumpers need to learn to stay in their lane and own what their president is doing.


They have no want or compulsion to do so; they gleefully cast about, this way and that, driving over civil order, decency, ethics- all for this transient moment of attention.   When Trump appealed to racism and "the forgotten man", a spark blossomed in their chest- 'finally- it's MY TIME!'   Things like humanity, ethics, and courage are consumed in that fire.

Or maybe I'm wrong.   Ray, you gonna vote for a guy who stole from a charity a second time?   Is that who you are?   Are you gonna vote for the guy who swindled students looking to him for help?   Is that who you are?   Is that the company you keep?   A guy who slept with a copy of Mein Kampf by his bed?   Are you going to say 'he's my man!', then continue on with your George-Soros-Jewish-conspiracy crap?

My guess is you don't come back from that.   Maybe I'm wrong, Ray.   Show me I'm wrong.   Be a better man.

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by MnSpring on 11/21/19 at 08:39:55


232F38272921293B204E0 wrote:
Etc, etc, ad nauseam.   Suspicion.  Supposition. Suggestion. Innuendo.  Insinuation.  Smear.  Smear.  Smear.

Exactly what a group of UL FDS, DFI Socialists have been doing for the last 3 years.

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by Mavigogun on 11/21/19 at 08:46:51

Ahhh- the great abbreviation orator has graced us with his vomit again.   Trump admitted to swindling students and stealing from charity.   There's no suspicion.   It isn't supposed, suspected- he copped to it.   The great deal maker.  'Ya, it was me- what do I gotta pay?'   The champion of failed characters.   Raise that banner high.   March with unearned pride.

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by MnSpring on 11/21/19 at 09:04:04


6965726D636B63716A040 wrote:
the great abbreviation orator has graced us with his vomit again.  

Excellent example of the very much touted, 'tolerance",
so often expressed by the group of UL FDS DFI Socialists !

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by Mavigogun on 11/21/19 at 09:17:13

You are mistaken: tolerance is extended for differences that do not wantonly inflict harm on others.   Hate and willful ignorance will receive no quarter.   There is no tolerance for swindlers- that would be foolish.   Trump swindled students and stole from veterans.

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by WebsterMark on 11/21/19 at 09:22:33


4254435E46535E45310 wrote:
There's a difference between accepting a donation, and extorting a foreign official to commit an illegal act for personal gain using public funds, while subverting the will of Congress.

Your pretzel logic does not compute.


So foreign nations "donated" millions to that foundation while she was in power which dried up when she's out of power and you see no correlation between the two?

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by WebsterMark on 11/21/19 at 09:24:32


756B646568756E73010 wrote:
[quote author=73607865607666010 link=1574311475/0#11 date=1574352534]Oh........

Just up and stopped, the cause, doesn't matter anymore.

OK.

Sorry folks, you'll have to wait, until a lib gets in office, to get any favors, again.....  :-?

OK.

Thanks.



Wrong.

Look at Obama's foundation.  Remember, he's one of those democrats....

It's going very strong, thanks.[/quote]

1) Obama's career nd influence is far from over
2) He's a far better person than her or Trump.

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by raydawg on 11/21/19 at 09:46:03

Mark....I was talking about Clinton, not Obama, THAT MONEY.....

About schools, someone remarked, re: Trump, but again, I was talking about Clinton, why deflect?

Anyway, since that matter has been brought into the equation....

I guess we can say all that money spent on higher education is a scam also, and joe taxpayer is expected to bail this students out, while the universities still get their money for nut'n.....

maybe a degree in pretzel making    ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by Mavigogun on 11/21/19 at 09:53:28


6E5C5B4A4D5C4B74584B52390 wrote:
So foreign nations "donated" millions to that foundation while she was in power which dried up when she's out of power and you see no correlation between the two?


Can you not read?   Like your boss, do you write everything with a giant Sharpie marker or oversized Crayon?   A direct corollary was drawn-

The Clintons have fallen out of favor.  Their charity then suffers.

This is a simple case of the Clintons not being as popular as they were.

"Powerful people leveraging their power to do good"- and you have presented no evidence to the contrary, only fantasy.   If you had more than hate fueled dreams, you'd already be pounding on Barr's door.

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by T And T Garage on 11/21/19 at 10:02:47


52415944415747200 wrote:
Mark....I was talking about Clinton, not Obama, THAT MONEY.....

No, you were comparing libs to trump.

About schools, someone remarked, re: Trump, but again, I was talking about Clinton, why deflect?

Anyway, since that matter has been brought into the equation....

I guess we can say all that money spent on higher education is a scam also, and joe taxpayer is expected to bail this students out, while the universities still get their money for nut'n.....

maybe a degree in pretzel making    ;D ;D ;D


Two completely different things.  You bring up the Clinton charity, then a comparison is made to trump - you don't like it then change the direction again.

Hard to keep track if you keep changing your mind.....

Title: Re: Hows that....???
Post by pg on 11/21/19 at 14:37:55

I'm sure they think highly of the Clinton Foundation in Haiti.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/hillarys-america-secret-history-democratic-party-dinesh-dsouza-clinton-foundation/

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