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Title: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy Shears Post by WebsterMark on 10/31/19 at 05:20:58 Eric Ciaramella Not a whistle blower. A creature of the swamp who illegally and traitorously devised a plan to overturn a national election by enlisting an all too willing national media, fellow leftists and TDS infected fools, examples of which on here who regularly orgasmically moan "we got him now" with every soon to be proven false headline or late night comic's quip. The genius battle plan involved handing over notes of a confidential Presidential phone call. Here's where the traitorous genius comes in. He created a narrative that captured the full attention of the combined forces of Democrats and fellow traitors, the MSM, while at the same time, threw enough BS into the mix that guarantees the Bidens pull a Hilary and walk away with millions while essentially poisoning any possible avenues to investigate them. It was a genius plan and required knowing just how deranged the leftist and media are. Consider that the transcripts of the call were released showing nothing what the traitors says he was concerned about and yet the fabricated lie of quid pro quo continues. Add to that the one on the other end of the call clearly felt no such threat was issued as anyone reading the transcript could certainly testify to. People who created this and the people who fall for this with such glee are the same type who steal the eldely's life savings to buy a vacation home. You suck. |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by T And T Garage on 10/31/19 at 05:59:34 Eric Ciaramella - a hero who can see what a traitor really is. It's trump. He wipes his orange a$$ with the constitution while he's sitting on the toilet incessantly tweeting. All his cucks don't care though. No surprise. |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by Mavigogun on 10/31/19 at 06:47:41 Ahhh- looked who crawled out from under his ‘I want a civil war’ rock. The anti-patriot. The avowed enemy of democracy. The pathetic sociopath who, unable to play nice with others, wants to burn the Republic down. Disrespect for your peers is your predicate, Mark. No one can take your voice seriously- you've made it a rancid joke. |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by Serowbot on 10/31/19 at 07:48:19 There's a problem,... whistleblower account has been verified by testimony from other witnesses, including Trump appointees and respected career diplomats... also confirmation from Ukraine officials. Trump's own released summary matches the facts, and we now know some pertinent phrases were intentionally left out. Officer Vindmen alerted superiors two weeks before the whistleblower... |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by WebsterMark on 10/31/19 at 09:05:05 Not at all. Been roaming on top the rocks of this great nation doing that capitalism thing while I still can. I have peeked in from time to time laughing at the ridiculousness of TT's recruit. |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by T And T Garage on 10/31/19 at 09:12:16 7A484F5E59485F604C5F462D0 wrote:
LOL - my "recruit"? Is that what it takes to you to make yourself feel better? Thinking that I have a "recruit"? Ahhh... I'm so glad I live in your head rent free too! The truth is mark, Mavigogun seems a bit smarter and wittier than me - I'd love to "claim" him as a recruit, but I don't think he's even close to being that type. I've never interacted with him outside this forum. (in fact, I don't even know his/her gender) So, you keep lying to yourself about pretty much everything about me and I'm sure you'll feel better. LOL Oh, and please, continue to brag about your "capitalism thing" - that's not too suspicious at all..... ::) No - go chase that carrot! |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by WebsterMark on 10/31/19 at 09:22:33 6274637E66737E65110 wrote:
So Vindmen is the genius?... Same difference. You know pertinent phrases left out how? You know that how? Let me guess, "respected" career diplomats? There nothing in the call out of line. You have the entire call in front of you. The Ukraine President said there was no pressure. You are fabricating a crisis where there is none while turning a blind eye to more than suspicious activity by the son of a man who if nominated, you'll vote for. |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by Mavigogun on 10/31/19 at 09:48:57 635156474051467955465F340 wrote:
Let’s test that. Back on the 23rd, you slithered out to argue the President's apparent crimes were no concern, citing a lack of direct witness: "Yet in the publicly released portion of his testimony, Mr. Taylor neither described any direct conversation with Mr. Trump himself nor made any reference to documents or recordings that would explicitly implicate the president. Instead, he provided a road map for investigators by quoting others around Mr. Trump describing his actions and statements." So is this is yet another Chicken Little The Sky is Falling crock of BS that feeds a media bias another big $h!t sandwich but otherwise is nothing but opinion and one man being pi$$ed off at the audacity that an Elected President would pursue his own agenda? Given that's been what every other crock of $hit you clowns have gotten all worked up about, I'd say that's the odds. Of course we had the President’s direct admission- and now we have multiple first-hand accounts of both that infamous conversation and the scheme surrounding it. At the date of that earlier post, it was obvious from Trump Administration actions that they believed they had committed crimes, taking extra-ordinary steps to cover up their misdeeds. You don’t stand on rock, Mark- you throw them and run, lacking the courage of conviction to weather the testing of your claims. Honest, reasonable people knew your argument for dismissing the whistleblower's reporting was hollow. Where are you now that your arbitrary excuse has been removed? You pretend we don't all know what we all know, post yet another demagogic scree in defiance of honest regard. Mr. Cut-n-Paste, llacking limbs, relies on others to write lies for you. You can't stand in the withering light of truth, slithering back into the muck. |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by Mavigogun on 10/31/19 at 10:08:09 What we know: According to our Ambassador to Ukraine, President Trump pressured the Ukrainian President to publicly announce an investigation into whom he viewed as his primary political rivals, the Biden’s. When that didn’t happen, Trump caused funds approved by the US Congress for the defense of Ukraine against Russian's ongoing warring to be withheld. According to who? Multiple members of Congress from both sides of the isle, amongst others. Then, as documented in the call, Trump predicated the release of that critical military aid on Ukraine furthering his personal political objectives. Trump claimed his concern was purely stamping out corruption- but when asked what other anti-corruption investigations he knew of or had promoted in Ukraine, he could list none. Nothing. As reported by who? Trump. The only corruption concern raised with Ukraine by Trump related to Biden. These acts are clearly forbidden by US law. |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by Serowbot on 10/31/19 at 10:15:26 Testimony after testimony must be liars, in order to defend one known liar's story... This is the old story of a mom watching her son in a parade and saying, "Oh look. only my Johnny is marching in step"... |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by WebsterMark on 10/31/19 at 11:51:30 Then, as documented in the call, Trump predicated the release of that critical military aid on Ukraine furthering his personal political objectives. Point out where Trump predicated the release of critical aid on Ukraine providing something of value to further his political objectives. Refer me to the clear "chapter and verse" within the call where this occurred. |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by WebsterMark on 10/31/19 at 12:10:56 1107100D15000D16620 wrote:
Pretty easy to do when everyone else watching the parade is blind.... Or in this case, wearing TDS colored glasses with such tint you can't see reality right in front of you. Look, Trump ain't a choir boy. I've said that a thousand times. But he's better than anything you leftist, socialist, anti-Amerian losers put up in 2016 or will put up in 2020. |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by Serowbot on 10/31/19 at 12:21:51 You want Trump to have said, "President Volensky, I would like to involve you in the commission of a crime, please investigate my rival in the election or I will withhold the military aid that Congress allotted to you." Do bank robbers walk into banks and say, "I would like to commit bank robbery"... |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by WebsterMark on 10/31/19 at 13:22:42 No, I want him to say anything that would lead any reasonable person to believe he was asking for something to be done or he wasn't going to deliver military aid. I'm in the business world. I ask for things and expect something in return. I get asked for things and expect something in return. You show me that in the call. Go ahead, make my day. |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by WebsterMark on 10/31/19 at 13:26:00 3523342931242932460 wrote:
As a matter of fact, they do!!! What do you think they do???? WTF is wrong with you? Do you think they make eye contact with the teller expecting them to hand over sacks of cash??? Good God Sew, you TDS is really getting bad...... Do you walk into a Dennys and then get disappointed when the server doesn't bring you over pancakes because you said Good Morning to her?.... |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by T And T Garage on 10/31/19 at 13:59:25 1B292E3F38293E012D3E274C0 wrote:
trump: Well it is very nice of you to say that. I will say that we do a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot of effort and a lot of time. Much more than the European countries are doing and they should be helping you more than they are. Germany does almost nothing for you. All they do is talk and I think it's something that you should really ask them about. When I was speaking to Angela Merkel she talks Ukraine, but she doesn't do anything. A lot of the European countries are the same way so I think it's something you want to look at but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine. I wouldn't say that it's reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not good but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine. zellenskyy: Yes you are absolutely right. Not only 100%, but actually 1000% arid I can tell you the following; I did talk to Angela Merkel and I did meet.with her. I also met and talked with Macron . and I told them that they are not doing quite as much as they need to be doing·on the issues with the sanctions. They are not enforcing the sanctions. They are not working as much as they should work for Ukraine It turns out that even though logically, the European Union should be our biggest partner but technically the United States is a much bigger partner than.the European Union and- I'm very grateful to you for that because the United States is doing quite a lot for Ukraine. Much more than the European Union especially when we are talking about sanctions against the Russian Federation. I would also·like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We. are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes .. trump: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they s_ay Crowdstrike ... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you are surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible. zellenskyy: Yes it is. very important for me and everything that you just mentioned earlier. For me as a President, it is very important and we are open for any future cooperation. We are ready to· open a new page on cooperation in relations between the United States and Ukraine. For that purpose, I just recalled our ambassador from United States and he will be replaced by a very competent and very experienced ambassador who will work hard on making sure that our two nations are getting closer. I would also like and hope to see him having your trust and your confidence and have personal relations with you so we can cooperate even more so I will personally tell you that one of my assistants spoke with Mr. Giuliani just.recently and we are hoping very much that Mr. Giuliani will be able to travel to Ukraine and we will meet once he comes to Ukraine. I just wanted to assure you once again that you have nobody but friends around us. I will make sure that I surround myself with the best and most experienced people. I also wanted to tell you that we are friends. We are great friends and you Mr. President have friends in our country so we can continue our strategic partnership. I also plan to surround myself with great people and in addition to that investigation, I guarantee as the President of Ukraine that all the investigations will be done openly and candidly. That I can assure you. trump: Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor 0f New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could _speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that The other thing, There's a lot of. talk about Biden's son,. that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me. (C&P from a PDF, formatting is off). So, this would be of no consequence if trump were NOT the president of the United States. However, it's ILLEGAL for him to ask for favors - dirt on Biden, his potential rival in 2020 - in return for military aid (or withholding it). Now mark, you go ahead and tell yourself that this is all fine and dandy and that quid pro quo is how the business world works, then fine. But THIS IS NOT BUSINESS. trump wiped his a$$ with the Constitution and didn't even bother to notice. (just like all his a$$ kissers....) |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by MnSpring on 10/31/19 at 15:12:12 6B7D6A776F7A776C180 wrote:
'the ones with red cars' |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by Mavigogun on 10/31/19 at 18:39:39 4E7C7B6A6D7C6B54786B72190 wrote:
Ahhh! That makes the problem so clear- you aren't reasonable. The President withheld military aid from an ally at war with Russia to use as leverage for his personal political benefit. It ain't complex. He stopped the transfer, waited a week for the Ukrainians to feel scared for their future, then got the Ukrainian President on the phone. The Ukrainian President said 'we sure could use some more missiles' and Trump said 'but I need something from you, though'. It was a shake-down. We know now that Trump had been pressuring the Ukrainians to do his bidding before the call, but they hadn't complied. So he concocted this very illegal plan. When the grown-ups around Trump realized what he was doing, they freaked out, attempted to bury the record. It would have worked, too- were it not for someone with a conscious speaking up. Trump didn't press the Ukrainians to demonstrate substantive anti-corruption reforms or actions- his focus was only related to Biden. Mark, you're like a parent who closes the door on their kid and a child molester, then says they had no idea what was going on in there. "Show me the proof." What the fux is wrong with you? |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by WebsterMark on 11/01/19 at 04:22:03 Geez TT, talk about living in somebody's head rent free.... I wasn't even talking to you and you posted all that. I hope it was cut and pasted and you didn't type all that.... I saw that stupid font color you use, skimmed the first couple lines and skipped right past the rest. Sorry you spent time on it. Here, do this. Tilt your head as far as you can to the right, so it's almost horizontal. Take you left hand, tap your left temple 3 or 4 times and I'll drop out. |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by WebsterMark on 11/01/19 at 04:27:05 525E49565850584A513F0 wrote:
Ahhh! That makes the problem so clear- you aren't reasonable. The President withheld military aid from an ally at war with Russia to use as leverage for his personal political benefit. It ain't complex. He stopped the transfer, waited a week for the Ukrainians to feel scared for their future, then got the Ukrainian President on the phone. The Ukrainian President said 'we sure could use some more missiles' and Trump said 'but I need something from you, though'. It was a shake-down. We know now that Trump had been pressuring the Ukrainians to do his bidding before the call, but they hadn't complied. So he concocted this very illegal plan. When the grown-ups around Trump realized what he was doing, they freaked out, attempted to bury the record. It would have worked, too- were it not for someone with a conscious speaking up. Trump didn't press the Ukrainians to demonstrate substantive anti-corruption reforms or actions- his focus was only related to Biden [/quote] Yea, none of that happened. You're a 9/11 conspiracy theorist who sees a pattern in chaos. You're A Beautiful Mind, staring at a wall full of newspaper clippings and imagining letters jumping out to reveal themselves only to you. |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by WebsterMark on 11/01/19 at 04:28:15 Question for you Mavi, do you ride motorcycles? Do you have a Savage now or had one in the past? |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by Mavigogun on 11/01/19 at 05:44:50 You ask where in the transcript Trump's crimes occurred. 'Point me to it", you said. Then you said you couldn't be bothered to read. That poses a special sort of challenge- guy who proclaims what the 'facts' are, but is willfully ignorant of the record. The best I can do for someone like that is to distill events down to key elements- not too many details, not too much depth, or your attention span will be over-taxed. Your response, Mark, was to question the legitimacy of my presence- rather than speak to the validity of my summation. This actually provides us a GREAT opportunity to simply illustrate your failure, Mark. In less than a minute- with minimal effort -this forum would have produced a list of all my posts to this forum. Had you bothered or thought to do this very easy, basic thing, you would find pictures of my bike, dissembled engine. You could answer your own questions- if you asked them with honesty, applied yourself honestly. But that ain't you. When the facts don't suit you, you look away. When you can't look away, you attack the messenger. Committed bigot, willfully ignorant- you are Trump's base. |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by WebsterMark on 11/01/19 at 06:36:03 You could have just said yes or no. I'm not wasting any time searching anything on you. See my instructions to your bud TT on how to get me out of your head. |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by Mavigogun on 11/01/19 at 07:36:50 Mark, whether integrity is a waste of your time is- as always -entirely up to you. We'd all be better off were you to value the quality of your own character more. |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by WebsterMark on 11/01/19 at 08:22:58 In your case, tap hard.... |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by T And T Garage on 11/01/19 at 10:45:44 576562737465724D61726B000 wrote:
It's a shame you didn't read it. But then, you're the typical, ignorant trump supporter. You world thinks trump is truthful and a stable genius.... But hey, I love how you take my posts and make them your own (living in your head) - nicely done. For being a salesman, you sure don't many original thoughts..... The fact is mark, you're the one that seems to be obsessed with me. You call me out ("our friend from Chicago"), you think that Mavi and I are friends, you sent me a PM, etc. Sorry mark - those are facts. Tell you what - why not stay in your own head, huh? (of course, it's probably a lonely place with lots of space - I can't blame you for wanting company...) LOL |
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Title: Re: ..introduce to you, the one and only Billy She Post by T And T Garage on 11/01/19 at 10:47:12 132126373021360925362F440 wrote:
So, you also have no integrity, huh? What happened to your embargo on responding to Mavi? Your skin is about as thin as your orange boy's I guess. |
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