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Title: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by WebsterMark on 10/24/19 at 06:01:27 Ann Coulter October 23, 2019 The left’s enthusiasm for Third World immigrants isn’t only because they vote 8-2 for the Democrats. It’s that Latin American peasants seem uniquely amenable to idiotic socialist schemes. You probably think it’s beyond silliness for Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren to keep promising FREE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL! NO PREMIUMS! NO CO-PAYS! ILLEGAL ALIENS, TOO! EVERYBODY GETS A PONY! No one could be gullible enough to fall for that. I refer you to the economic powerhouse that is Latin America. Based on hundreds of years of indigenous people voting for politicians who made similar promises, Latin America has become the dream factory that it is today. That’s why Tegucigalpa is practically a byword for “technological innovation,” Santiago was the picture of calm sophistication this weekend, and Caracas is the ultimate in modern conveniences. Perhaps you missed the article in last Saturday’s New York Times on what socialism has done for the water system in Venezuela: “The brick shack on the outskirts of Venezuela’s capital is crowded with tubs, jugs and buckets. The water they hold must last the family of eight for a week -- but it’s not enough for frequent washing or flushing, so the kitchen is filled with greasy pots and the house smells of stale urine. “And none of the water is treated, making diarrhea and vomit a regular occurrence. “'We practically live in the bathroom,’ said the mother of the family ... [Her daughter] sat nearby, pale and listless, recovering from her latest bout of diarrhea just one month away from childbirth.” Democrats: We need some of that Latin American magic! Twenty years ago, 60 percent of Venezuelans had regular access to safe drinking water. Today, only 30 percent do. How did this happen? Answer: Poor Venezuelans voted for it. If we let them in, they’ll vote for it here, too. (Except 20 percent, who will be patriotic Americans, i.e. Republicans.) That’s great news for Sanders and Warren! But it’s terrible news for the country. Denouncing “squalid oligarchs,” Hugo Chavez promised Venezuela’s poor: “I will not rest until every human being who lives in this land has housing, employment and some way to manage his life.” The poor were sold! In December 1998, Chavez was elected in a landslide, commemorated with this Seattle Times headline: “VENEZUELAN SLUM DWELLERS VOTE FOR CHANGE.” As The Miami Herald explained, Chavez “crystallized anger and frustration among Latin America's poor at free-market policies that have brought only limited prosperity.” What did free markets and private property ever do for the poor? If they were poor, but others were rich, the “squalid oligarchs” must have stolen from them! (Elizabeth Warren should borrow that epithet. “Wealthy corporations” is getting old.) Bernie says he “wrote the darn bill” to give Medicare to all, but he was plagiarizing Chavez, who immediately implemented a “single-payer” system for health care in Venezuela. He set up free health clinics, opened military hospitals to the poor, and deployed tens of thousands of government workers to deliver medical services to the barrios. At Chavez’s invitation, thousands of poor people took up residence in hotels, warehouses and luxurious golf courses. As one of the squatters explained, “We just want a home for our children.” That could be the epitaph of every once-great country: It was for THE CHILDREN! As you may have heard, this worked out fantastically well. Within a year of Chavez taking office, the economy had shrunk by 7.2 percent and unemployment was at 20 percent. A decade into this socialist paradise, the poor were poorer than ever. There were constant blackouts, food shortages and appalling infant mortality rates. (Much like what we’re seeing in California.) Venezuela’s infant mortality from diarrhea alone has sextupled in the past 15 years, according to the World Health Organization. (That’s an estimate, on account of Chavez’s quick response to the crisis, which was to stop releasing public health data.) Potable water, that most basic element of civilization, is virtually nonexistent. Today, sitting on top of the largest oil reserves in the world, Venezuelans are starving. Chavez didn’t seize power in a military coup. There was no revolution. He wasn’t imposed on Venezuelans by the C.I.A. He was the people’s choice, elected president in 1998 (with 56 percent of the vote), then re-elected in 2000 (60 percent), then again in 2006 (63 percent) and yet again in 2012 (54 percent). And that’s not counting all the regional, parliamentary, constitutional and referenda elections his party won, over and over and over again. Like that other Latin American matinee idol, Eva Peron, Chavez destroyed a country by offering the poor pie-in-the-sky promises that were to be paid for by “the rich.” In both cases, it took only about a decade to turn two of the wealthiest countries in the world into two of the most dysfunctional. In Mexico, the people voted for the Institutional Revolutionary Party for 71 straight years. Total economic failure, year after year. Yes, please, kick me again! All of this would be of limited interest outside of psychological circles, except for the fact that these voluntary hellholes are adjacent to our country, which is why our southern border is always besieged with desperate Latin Americans. They’re fleeing the very systems that they voted for, and which (80 percent) would willingly vote for again. The key point is this: Everywhere in the world, the working class loves socialism -- except the U.S.A. To the dismay of American liberals, their movement has always been bereft of the very proletariat that they claim to champion. Instead of truck drivers and longshoremen, Democratic meetings are full of divorcees, transgenders, vegans and college professors. Recall that when student radicals tried to organize blue-collar workers in the '60s, they ended up getting their heads smashed by building trades guys for protesting the war. Today, America’s working class wears a MAGA hat. That’s why the Democrats are dying to fling open our southern border. As Lenin might have said, you can’t make an omelet without bringing in millions of poverty-stricken Latin Americans. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by Mavigogun on 10/24/19 at 06:27:17 You know what they say: teach a kid to be bigoted and they'll teach their kid to be bigoted- but teach a lazy racist to cut-n-paste, and they can bypass that whole teaching/learning thing altogether. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by raydawg on 10/24/19 at 07:09:39 Web...... Please look at this article from the NYT. Given we are told via reporting in the media pretty much everyone beats Trump, why would this concern even be voiced? From the looks of it, these are folk deep within the establishment, not fringies. Makes me think they know going left won't happen, and like I asked about why Obama got spanked in his first midterm, and continued every chance afterwards, folk do not want to go there....??? I think this might explain why many minorities appear to be behind Trump 2020, I think that number will be greater than anyone is suggesting....???? Your thought. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2019/10/23/anxious_dem_establishment_asks_is_there_anybody_else_490071.html |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by Serowbot on 10/24/19 at 07:34:10 Republicans always compare us to corrupt 2nd and 3rd world countries.... |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by WebsterMark on 10/24/19 at 07:36:00 The only reason for the impeachment fiasco is the hope it will make things more difficult for Trump in 2020. Anyone with a clear perception of reality is aware Trump has a higher likelihood of winning against any current Democratic contender unless something extraordinary occurs. They're banking on impeachment being just that. But they're rightly worried. (it's why our two emasculated men won't bet actual money, they really worried) It's very possible Trump could be impeached in the house, guaranteed he'll be acquitted in the Senate, and win more EC votes in 2020 than 2016. Speaking of our ladies, I think it's possible our good Chicago friend recruited this new comer to our table to help cover his back, don't you think? Seems a little suspicious he pops up on here and immediately goes postal on a very select few..... Just saying. I put the odds at 50/50. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by WebsterMark on 10/24/19 at 07:38:32 Republicans always compare us to corrupt 2nd and 3rd world countries.... No. We compare what we will turn into if you get full control with 2nd and 3rd world nations. We are not there yet. We will be in the future. As I've said, you will 'win' in the end Serowbot. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by Serowbot on 10/24/19 at 08:15:24 Recent poll ran Trump against a Ham sandwich,... the sandwich got 58%... |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by MnSpring on 10/24/19 at 08:34:36 "Poor Venezuelans voted for it." But Ray, look how WONDERFUL that system is now working in downtown LA. (Formally called the State of Calf) In a place that is now the Capital of the United States Socialistic Republic. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by WebsterMark on 10/24/19 at 08:42:29 6573647961747962160 wrote:
Didn't he run against a ham sandwich in 2016 and win? |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by MnSpring on 10/24/19 at 08:50:36 6A585F4E49584F705C4F563D0 wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Have to stop taking a sip of coffee just before I read some posts. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by T And T Garage on 10/24/19 at 08:59:48 457770616677605F736079120 wrote:
LOL - like everything else - you're totally wrong. In fact, I've never even PMed him. You see mark, your view of the world is just that..... your view. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by T And T Garage on 10/24/19 at 09:00:42 5C6E69787F6E79466A79600B0 wrote:
Didn't he run against a ham sandwich in 2016 and win?[/quote] Well, as bad as Hillary the ham was - she still got 3 million more votes. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by T And T Garage on 10/24/19 at 09:02:07 To all ann coulter fans - Educate yourself on socialism: http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/democratic-socialist-countries/ |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by MnSpring on 10/24/19 at 09:07:50 764443525544536C40534A210 wrote:
Interesting, your statement of: "...to help cover his back..." What did you use as PROOF, tt is a he ? |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by T And T Garage on 10/24/19 at 09:13:32 092A1734362D2A23440 wrote:
Interesting, your statement of: "...to help cover his back..." What did you use as PROOF, tt is a he ? [/quote] I dunno mn, if your brain gets any smaller, there won't be any room for me in here.... |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by MnSpring on 10/24/19 at 09:17:39 4B555A5B564B504D3F0 wrote:
Great Heads UP ! Democratic socialism: the ownership of private property is limited. The government regulates the economy. Both democratic socialism and socialism advocate: for a redistribution of wealth and power to meet public needs, not make profits for a few. Both aim to weaken the power of corporations and increase the power of the working people. Democratic socialism, unlike socialism, would achieve this through democratic means and not an authoritarian rule. (So that means, illegals, will Vote, to $hit on the street, live in tents, all because they get FREE bananas) |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by Serowbot on 10/24/19 at 09:18:12 625057464150477854475E350 wrote:
Didn't he run against a ham sandwich in 2016 and win?[/quote] Touche'... ;D |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by T And T Garage on 10/24/19 at 09:19:57 7754694A4853545D3A0 wrote:
Great Heads UP ! Democratic socialism: the ownership of private property is limited. The government regulates the economy. Both democratic socialism and socialism advocate: for a redistribution of wealth and power to meet public needs, not make profits for a few. Both aim to weaken the power of corporations and increase the power of the working people. Democratic socialism, unlike socialism, would achieve this through democratic means and not an authoritarian rule. (So that means, illegals, will Vote, to $hit on the street, live in tents, all because they get FREE bananas) [/quote] That's not at all what it means. What a stupid statement. (but alas, I should consider the source...) |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by Mavigogun on 10/24/19 at 10:13:04 2D3E263B3E28385F0 wrote:
The guy propagating antisemitic conspiracies now regales us with his theory that "many minorities" are backing Trump. An obviously dubious claim- still, I scraped the bottom of the polling barrels in attempt to find some support for what on the surface is a baldly counter-factual proclamation. Trump does still poll well among some Asian communities- but otherwise, looses the minority vote across the board. Perhaps Ray can point to his source for his seemingly fantastic claim- is it the same that whispered in his ear that George Soros was secretly a Russian stooge gaming the election to get Trump elected? Prepare to be bored and disappointed at the same time. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by Mavigogun on 10/24/19 at 10:20:55 447671606776615E726178130 wrote:
This is a fantastically counter factual lie- polls clearly indicate several Democrat candidates polling with a wider margin of victory than Clinton did. Your imagination is a poor substitute for reality, Mark- nothing new to report there. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/24/19 at 12:57:24 That's some serious delusion you're suffering from.. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by WebsterMark on 10/24/19 at 15:06:22 If you do not believe an incumbent President with a good economy running against an opponent whose plans call for a dramatic reshaping of numerous established segments of the American economy has. at the very least, equal odds of winning 270 EC votes, then you can't be taken seriously. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by raydawg on 10/24/19 at 16:23:06 1A282F3E39283F002C3F264D0 wrote:
Didn't he run against a ham sandwich in 2016 and win?[/quote] Good one Web...... Hope she runs again, maybe they can do a poll with Trump vs. Smoked Porkbutt...... that should be interesting ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by Mavigogun on 10/24/19 at 16:41:29 112324353223340B27342D460 wrote:
The confines of your very limited consideration over a comparison of previous and current polling data? Of course not. What a farsicle suggestion- YOUR reckoning? Egads, no. Between folks losing losing health care, businesses being forced over seas, agricultutre suffering under tariffs, the constant embarasement, insecurity, and fatigue, the reason support for Trump has narrowed are many and compelling. That you don't get that is emblematic of your prejudice. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by T And T Garage on 10/24/19 at 20:33:32 6E5C5B4A4D5C4B74584B52390 wrote:
Not sure why this isn't sinking in.... It's not about the economy. It's about the orange man in the oval office and what he's doing to the office of president. You think it's somehow being faked that in this economy, his poll numbers have NEVER gotten above 45%?? You're the one that needs to take a look around and see what is really going on here. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by WebsterMark on 10/25/19 at 09:01:15 506265747362754A66756C070 wrote:
Again, if you think 'a sock' could beat an incumbent President in this economy, if you think the people in those thousands of counties that went for Trump in 2016 see the world through the same filters you do and are guaranteed to jump to someone like Elizabeth Warren, you're blinded by your partisanship. When Trump first announced his candidacy, you laughed your tails off, but Trump (and I) had the last laugh. I don't know who'll have the last laugh in 2020 but the odds are you'll be standing in DC and screaming at the top of your lungs Jan of 2021 at his second inauguration. You've not accepted your last defeat so I doubt you'll accept this one. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by T And T Garage on 10/25/19 at 09:12:20 5E6C6B7A7D6C7B44687B62090 wrote:
Again, if you think 'a sock' could beat an incumbent President in this economy, if you think the people in those thousands of counties that went for Trump in 2016 see the world through the same filters you do and are guaranteed to jump to someone like Elizabeth Warren, you're blinded by your partisanship. When Trump first announced his candidacy, you laughed your tails off, but Trump (and I) had the last laugh. I didn't laugh, I shook my head..... I still am. I don't know who'll have the last laugh in 2020 but the odds are you'll be standing in DC and screaming at the top of your lungs Jan of 2021 at his second inauguration. You've not accepted your last defeat so I doubt you'll accept this one. [/quote] Think what you'd like. The facts stand for themselves. He's never polled above 45% - NEVER. He lost the popular vote by 3 million votes. He's the least popular president in modern history.(even with this economy) He's lied more than any president I can recall. He's the only president in modern history to refuse to release his taxes. There's so many negative, that there's no use trying to type them all out.. What's hilarious is that you blame others for the things that you yourself are guilty of. The fact is, mark - you're blinded by your partisanship. As to the vote - well, this little GIF says it all: http://s3files.core77.com/blog/images/960537_81_90771_DrdO3qFgW.gif |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by Mavigogun on 10/25/19 at 09:13:07 7E4C4B5A5D4C5B64485B42290 wrote:
This is the entirety of who Mark is. There's no moral conviction, no guiding ethos- there's no greater concern than his own ego. He's whittled away at pretense with every post, leaving us with a clear view of his core. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by WebsterMark on 10/26/19 at 05:03:52 293F28352D38352E5A0 wrote:
Didn't he run against a ham sandwich in 2016 and win?[/quote] Touche'... ;D[/quote] Does the ham sandwich want back in? Seems that way. I can't believe we'd get the pleasure of seeing her destroyed yet again in her quest. I think she'd get the Bernie treatment if she tried. The DNC would manipulate the process against her. But unlike Bernie, she's got balls and she'd fight back. Would be fun but mostly sad to watch that $hitshow. Sure, she'd win 4 million more votes in California and lose by a million in the other 49 so she'd have that to hang her hat on. The way she's losing her mind, I'm guessing this time she'd say little green men from outer space ran Facebook ads cause they were in collusion with Trump and that's why she lost this time..... |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by Mavigogun on 10/26/19 at 07:11:00 There's nothing the Red Hats love more than talking about their irrelevant Hillary fantasies. Historians will look back on this time and be at a loss to explain the fixation- but Mark demonstrates one cause: Called out for making vacuous proclamations, Mark consoles himself by retreating to his Clinton pacifier. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by raydawg on 10/26/19 at 08:36:31 Mark.....remember when a few back, I floated this idea of her getting in? I am such a sage and political wizard.... ;D ;D ;D Funny how her "press corp" still regal her as relevant, etc..... She has fooled lots of folks, she is good at that, tho they feign knowledge about her now, with their lazer sharp 20/20 hindsight..... WHY....nothing of her has changed? Same person. Talk of Michele now...... WHY? In this field of ham sandwiches all which out poll Trump, why the talk about someone else at ALL....???? :-? Anyway...she is too smart to get caught up in that mess. ;D ;D ;D Why Mark.....why are they still in flux? |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by MnSpring on 10/26/19 at 08:54:22 414D5A454B434B59422C0 wrote:
Yes they will. They will comment on how the Socialists tried to tear this Nation apart. They will also comment on how at no other time in this country, Including, Jefferson/Hamilton, even Hayes/Tilden. Did the UL FDS GBS Scream so loudly, and stamp their feet so vigorously. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by WebsterMark on 10/26/19 at 10:23:55 Won't happen Ray. She's essentially a bag lady now. |
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Title: Re: WE, TOO, CAN BE A FAILED LATIN AMERICAN STATE! Post by raydawg on 10/26/19 at 11:18:50 003235242332251A36253C570 wrote:
Hillary a bag lady? :-/ Mark, can you venture a guess as to why the democrats still seem unsettled about their current crop of candidates? Is it just because the field is still pretty large, or is there some real polling data that shows the truth in the matter that Trump is way stronger than what is being reported? Personally, and I ask around a lot, when I am working out in the field, etc, what are people looking for when voting..... Still number one, by a long shot, and remember, I am in the construction/service industry (still....dang it, I gotta really retire, but we have work stretching out years, in our unique market ) So I talk to grunts, laborers, skilled trade folk, wholesalers, contractors, real estate agents, bankers, etc.... #1. Economy and their ability to earn and save, etc.... #2. Immigration #3. Taxes #4. Schools #5. Healthcare #6. Affordable housing....which, comes with a caveat, some think one of the biggest obstacles to providing such would be less cost at the bureaucracy level with permitting, etc.... So my guess is, its still the economy stupid which is so ripe, cuz we heard this before from those who now try and say otherwise about a bad dog in the white house and hummers..... ;D ;D ;D |
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