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Message started by eau de sauvage on 10/22/19 at 18:49:49

Title: Was Ukraine 'self dealing'
Post by eau de sauvage on 10/22/19 at 18:49:49

The authoritative Lawfare blog, takes a sobering look at how it works in the real world. A look through this reasoning explains why Trump has gone haywire. He and his cronies are pretty well fcuked.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/self-dealing-ukraine-core-impeachment-inquiry

I believe the federal bribery crime, a felony punishable by up to 15 years in prison, also gets at the heart of the self-dealing issue more effectively than some alternative theories of criminal behavior, such as “honest services fraud” (which has some complex legal issues associated with it) or foreign campaign finance violations (which tend to involve monetary help apparently lacking here).

Anyone joining knowingly in the commission of the above could be liable as well, probably under the conspiracy statute (18 U.S.C. § 371). That might include Giuliani, who is not a public official.

I’ll briefly review the basic outline of the scheme and then turn to the issues of “anything of value,” “corruptly” and some of the possible criminal exposure.

Title: Re: Was Ukraine 'self dealing'
Post by thumperclone on 10/23/19 at 05:51:42

interesting perspective
if the orange one is innocent of any wrong doing why all the uproar?
lynching, unconstitutional, treason, etc. remarks prove he is afraid of something coming out
this is just an investigation not a trial that comes later in the senate
there his defense will be aired
if it looks like a duck...

I am seeing his/their corruption, obstruction, as impeachable crimes also