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Title: Is it Donald......???? Post by raydawg on 10/15/19 at 10:12:54 I still wonder what could be...... If all this energy that goes into getting/defending Trump, was channeled into matters that effect most Americans, not the power struggle in DC..... Set aside the fact that the media makes more revenue off of it, and tossing more wood on the burning fires pays them dividends, that is a given.... However, lacking discernment in folks, it gives them too much sway, and just keeps powering on, this merry-go-round, effect. If you know nothing about enabling, to see your part in this insanity, you might look at some of the observations, and tenets, of Al-Anon..... Yes, it's basic concept deals with alcoholism, as the point of origin from where the problems in our life, spring forth.... Causing us angst, disruptions, resentments, loss of control, etc.... That lead our lives to a point of being out of control of our emotions, thoughts, and energies.... Bottom line, you have the center spot of responsibility for your life, NOT others..... Reading their literature can bring you/us, some insight into how to move past this and enjoy life on its terms.... Back to Trump.... I feel the democrats, and all the others out to get him, could hang this man tomorrow, yet all the energy that put him in office will not subside, or diminish, but only grow stronger.... His fighting back is the common denominator, of those who are sick and tired of the lies and deceit of Washington, the politics of personal destruction via political correctness, etc.... And the preaching of those to how we must adhere to their beliefs, or else... It explains why his base never really tanks, no matter what, its because its not HIM but the underlying anger at the swamp. I have observed this unhappiness across all races, segments, and party affiliations, going back to Ross Perot.... It is getting stronger it seems to me. If you look at Obama getting elected on lots of the same issues the left is pushing today, tho not so extreme, folks gave him a opportunity, and even gave him the house and senate to make it happen..... YET, just 2 years later rescinded their votes, taking away that majority margin, and furthering it even more, to historical losses for any sitting president.....WHY? That is a mitigating factor that holds much of the riddles answers, to how voters cast their votes..... When you factor in the America is a one team sport, which Trump did with MAGA, a team divided does not win the World Series..... Folks will look to see who is causing that dissension, and take appropriate actions..... Funny observation here too..... One certain member here decries, and defends himself, when others charge him with the cause of this forums demise.... He states, "It was like this way before I ever came to this site, you can't blame me, etc...." But look, he blames....one man to the lack of civility in politics and its decay..... Funny how that works, eh. ;D Oh well, one more thing to add, in my morning rant and observation.... If Trump is such a loser, a easy target, a easy bet, by any of the top 4 candidates, in the democrat party....then why the interest in Ms. Obama, as being the top of the heap, if she was to run....????? That makes no sense to me at all..... I see it as a uncertainty, of the ponies they did place their monies on.... :o Nor do I see her as that stupid, either ;) Her husband went to the Oval Office as a young man, he came out looking worn and weathered..... Take the money....and RUN :D |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/19 at 10:26:54 45564E53564050370 wrote:
You mean like how trump and his entire family are doing right now? |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by MnSpring on 10/15/19 at 10:36:36 3E202F2E233E25384A0 wrote:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Ya just can't stop LYING, can ya !!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/19 at 10:45:41 4E6D5073716A6D64030 wrote:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Ya just can't stop LYING, can ya !!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D[/quote] Sorry, mn. 51% approve of impeachment and removal. womp womp.. |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by MnSpring on 10/15/19 at 12:12:52 564847464B564D50220 wrote:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Ya just can't stop LYING, can ya !!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/19 at 12:16:47 05261B383A21262F480 wrote:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Ya just can't stop LYING, can ya !!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D[/quote] Why do you think I'm lying? Do you know what polls are? Do you know how to read? Do you need help? |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by Eegore on 10/15/19 at 13:18:31 I remember about a decade back the fundraising for an elected seat in Kentucky was higher than that State's entire debt. This is true for multiple states. If people were able to donate directly to the Public Trust, Kentucky would have had enough capital to be completely solvent in just one year. Of course that doesn't solve the spending issue, or solve corruption, but it does present a question regarding the value of the elected official. Chances are slim, to me, any one elected official is worth the donations they make during the election cycle. |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by verslagen1 on 10/15/19 at 13:23:31 UL FDS speak vs reality Most Americans = more than half of the democrats Whole Country = all of the democrats. |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/19 at 13:27:11 5474767E6374110 wrote:
Amen! |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/19 at 13:28:10 5F4C5B5A45484E4C4718290 wrote:
No vers. 51% of ALL REGISTERED VOTERS POLLED. Oh, and that was from your favorite - fox "news". womp womp.... |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by Serowbot on 10/15/19 at 13:32:43 You mean, UL, FDS, GBS, Snowflake, Fox News.... ;D |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by raydawg on 10/15/19 at 13:39:27 5A7A78706D7A1F0 wrote:
Eggore, how would you get money out of politics? Yes, its a glaring example that something is amiss. When you look at the wealth accumulated by politics not just in DC, but in state, county, and municipalities, you know something just isn't right. How is it a person elected in a poverty jurisdiction, lives a live so far removed from those they are to be representing? |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/19 at 13:51:57 2B38203D382E3E590 wrote:
Eggore, how would you get money out of politics? Not to answer for Eegore, but since you're seemingly too afraid to address me directly, I'll just put my 2 cents in. It's abolishing Citizens United. That one piece of legislation pretty much allows bold-faced bribery of our politicians. Yes, its a glaring example that something is amiss. When you look at the wealth accumulated by politics not just in DC, but in state, county, and municipalities, you know something just isn't right. How is it a person elected in a poverty jurisdiction, lives a live so far removed from those they are to be representing? It's about the power, ray. It's not too hard to see that people like to have and wield power over others. Control, in many ways, is more alluring than money. Then, when it comes to elections, the ones with the most money, usually get most of the votes because propaganda, sadly - works. [/quote] |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by verslagen1 on 10/15/19 at 14:15:38 6D737C7D706D766B190 wrote:
No vers. 51% of ALL REGISTERED VOTERS POLLED. Oh, and that was from your favorite - fox "news". womp womp....[/quote] So you admit you lied... it's not the WHOLE country, just 51%. |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/19 at 14:29:05 6C7F6869767B7D7F742B1A0 wrote:
No vers. 51% of ALL REGISTERED VOTERS POLLED. Oh, and that was from your favorite - fox "news". womp womp....[/quote] So you admit you lied... it's not the WHOLE country, just 51%.[/quote] No. "The country as a whole wants him removed" is pretty much the same as saying "a majority". But yeah vers, you go ahead and latch onto that.... LOL . it's pretty much all you got. |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by verslagen1 on 10/15/19 at 15:09:41 150B040508150E13610 wrote:
You got trump beat on the lying stats. |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/19 at 15:21:00 6F7C6B6A75787E7C7728190 wrote:
You got trump beat on the lying stats.[/quote] Like I said... that's all you got... cling to it vers. Hold on tight! |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by Serowbot on 10/15/19 at 15:40:40 Do Americans Support Impeaching Trump? https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/do-americans-support-impeaching-president-trump/ 50.2% yes 43.8% no |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by Mavigogun on 10/15/19 at 16:50:10 706374756A6761636837060 wrote:
This is the heart sickening aspect, for me: even Trump's supporters know he is a compulsive liar. |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/16/19 at 05:51:59 272B3C232D252D3F244A0 wrote:
This is the heart sickening aspect, for me: even Trump's supporters know he is a compulsive liar. [/quote] Not just for you Mavigogun, most of the country. |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by verslagen1 on 10/16/19 at 07:37:35 64687F606E666E7C67090 wrote:
This is the heart sickening aspect, for me: even Trump's supporters know he is a compulsive liar. [/quote] The stats are published by a left leaning media. So the embellishment about embellishments is expected. It's a salty world. |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/16/19 at 07:40:41 647760617E7375777C23120 wrote:
This is the heart sickening aspect, for me: even Trump's supporters know he is a compulsive liar. [/quote] The stats are published by a left leaning media. So the embellishment about embellishments is expected. It's a salty world.[/quote] The stats were published by fox..... so, what are you saying ver? |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by verslagen1 on 10/16/19 at 07:48:48 140A050409140F12600 wrote:
This is the heart sickening aspect, for me: even Trump's supporters know he is a compulsive liar. [/quote] The stats are published by a left leaning media. So the embellishment about embellishments is expected. It's a salty world.[/quote] The stats were published by fox..... so, what are you saying ver?[/quote] Couldn't find that... can you point that out? |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/16/19 at 07:54:16 7B687F7E616C6A68633C0D0 wrote:
This is the heart sickening aspect, for me: even Trump's supporters know he is a compulsive liar. [/quote] The stats are published by a left leaning media. So the embellishment about embellishments is expected. It's a salty world.[/quote] The stats were published by fox..... so, what are you saying ver?[/quote] Couldn't find that... can you point that out?[/quote] http://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment http://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/10/1862/1048/8ff3ab71-1.png?ve=1&tl=1 |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by verslagen1 on 10/16/19 at 08:25:08 so you couldn't find it either. your credibility just took another hit. |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/16/19 at 08:27:45 I remember polls telling me how bad Hillary was gonna crush trump |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/16/19 at 08:41:18 73607776696462606B34050 wrote:
What, are you blind? Go here and see what fox's own polls reflect. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment Sorry vers.... womp womp.... |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/16/19 at 08:41:44 382721263B3C0D3D0D35272B60520 wrote:
Well, she did beat him by 3 million votes, so..... |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by verslagen1 on 10/16/19 at 09:13:19 627C73727F627964160 wrote:
What, are you blind? Go here and see what fox's own polls reflect. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment Sorry vers.... womp womp....[/quote] We're talking about lying stats when you butted in. Your reading comprehension has really suffered from your TDS. |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/16/19 at 09:31:24 415245445B5650525906370 wrote:
What, are you blind? Go here and see what fox's own polls reflect. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment Sorry vers.... womp womp....[/quote] We're talking about lying stats when you butted in. Your reading comprehension has really suffered from your TDS.[/quote] Wow... you love the spin, huh? Here you go - refresh your memory: No vers. 51% of ALL REGISTERED VOTERS POLLED. Oh, and that was from your favorite - fox "news". womp womp.... So you admit you lied... it's not the WHOLE country, just 51%. No. "The country as a whole wants him removed" is pretty much the same as saying "a majority". But yeah vers, you go ahead and latch onto that.... LOL . it's pretty much all you got. Now, as to trump's lying stats.... Here you go: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by Mavigogun on 10/16/19 at 09:33:57 6E7D6A6B74797F7D7629180 wrote:
This is the heart sickening aspect, for me: even Trump's supporters know he is a compulsive liar. The stats are published by a left leaning media. So the embellishment about embellishments is expected. It's a salty world. You seem determined to miss the point, Michael- you've used Trump as a metric by which to measure lies. That's no accident, or result of some media conspiracy- rather, Trump's lying is so ubiquitous, we've all incorporated knowledge of his remarkable mendacity into our thinking. Even vocal supporters of the liar. Why is that tenable to you? |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by verslagen1 on 10/16/19 at 10:07:13 4D535C5D504D564B390 wrote:
This is the heart sickening aspect, for me: even Trump's supporters know he is a compulsive liar. [/quote] The stats are published by a left leaning media. So the embellishment about embellishments is expected. It's a salty world.[/quote] The stats were published by fox..... so, what are you saying ver?[/quote] Here's the correct reminder, I know it was just a short while ago. Do you need more time to overcome your short term memory loss? |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by verslagen1 on 10/16/19 at 10:11:51 7975627D737B73617A140 wrote:
This is the heart sickening aspect, for me: even Trump's supporters know he is a compulsive liar. The stats are published by a left leaning media. So the embellishment about embellishments is expected. It's a salty world. You seem determined to miss the point, Michael- you've used Trump as a metric by which to measure lies. That's no accident, or result of some media conspiracy- rather, Trump's lying is so ubiquitous, we've all incorporated knowledge of his remarkable mendacity into our thinking. Even vocal supporters of the liar. Why is that tenable to you?[/quote] They all lie, why do you accept that? |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/16/19 at 10:18:54 4E5D4A4B54595F5D5609380 wrote:
This is the heart sickening aspect, for me: even Trump's supporters know he is a compulsive liar. [/quote] The stats are published by a left leaning media. So the embellishment about embellishments is expected. It's a salty world.[/quote] The stats were published by fox..... so, what are you saying ver?[/quote] Here's the correct reminder, I know it was just a short while ago. Do you need more time to overcome your short term memory loss? [/quote] OK, ok.. let's clear this up, shall we? I said - "The country as a whole wants him removed" is pretty much the same as saying "a majority". vers said - "You got trump beat on the lying stats." Mavigogun said - "This is the heart sickening aspect, for me: even Trump's supporters know he is a compulsive liar." To which, vers said - "The stats are published by a left leaning media. So the embellishment about embellishments is expected. It's a salty world." Then - I mistakenly thought that vers was talking about the fact that 51% of all peopled polled in a fox news poll wanted trump impeached and removed. So enough of the useless back and forth. Here are the facts - 51% of those polled by fox news want trump impeached and removed. - FACT trump has made over 13,000 verifiable lies since taking office. - FACT So, now that we've cleared that up - move on. |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by Mavigogun on 10/16/19 at 10:29:28 564552534C4147454E11200 wrote:
There are several false presumptions about me and all others in that statement I'll gladly address- once you make an honest attempt to have a conversation, show respect and consideration, dispense with deflection... and answer the question. Very, very few approach the level of reflexive deceit practiced by Trump. He lies about the important and trivial, without distinction. It's remarkable. Your suggestion- that the number of outsized or petty lies issued by this President are actually commonplace -is absurd. I'm asking you to value this community and your place in it. I'm asking you to be more than a reflexive partisan. Don’t dodge- face the question head on. |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by verslagen1 on 10/16/19 at 10:29:51 So you don't want to talk about the whole country does not equal 51% thing? ;D |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/16/19 at 10:34:58 786B7C7D626F696B603F0E0 wrote:
I said -"the country as a whole.." I infer that that a majority of the country agrees that he should be impeached and removed. You wanna split hairs - be my guest. |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by MnSpring on 10/16/19 at 10:48:51 243A353439243F22500 wrote:
What color did the Pot call the Kettle ? |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/16/19 at 10:54:15 70536E4D4F54535A3D0 wrote:
What color did the Pot call the Kettle ?[/quote] Don't you mean the UL, FDS, GBS, DFL pot? Oh, and you forgot your smileys... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by Mavigogun on 10/16/19 at 10:57:15 It seems respect does not number among Michael’s ambitions. |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/16/19 at 11:01:32 64687F606E666E7C67090 wrote:
I'm not sure who Michael is, but no, there is not a lot of respect shown on this board. The other ones, yes - mostly. But the Tall Table, notsomuch. I'll be the first to admit - I'm one of those to blame. But in fairness - I give what I get. (fyi, you might want to be careful - you might get a strongly worded pm from a few members that feel threatened by you...) |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by MnSpring on 10/16/19 at 11:11:46 342A252429342F32400 wrote:
Would that be a 'Spoonerism' ? As in: "I will next twice at the one stop" (I will stop twice at the next one) Or: "I get what I give" |
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Title: Re: Is it Donald......???? Post by T And T Garage on 10/16/19 at 11:13:37 193A0724263D3A33540 wrote:
Would that be a 'Spoonerism' ? As in: "I will next twice at the one stop" (I will stop twice at the next one) Or: "I get what I give" [/quote] No. Take it verbatim - I give what I get. |
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