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Message started by MnSpring on 10/07/19 at 09:21:06

Title: Free Speech
Post by MnSpring on 10/07/19 at 09:21:06

https://reason.com/2019/10/03/the-e-u-orders-global-censorship-of-comments-calling-austrian-politician-a-corrupt-oaf/?fbclid=IwAR3ygzkLjNAzi7Z68dRnWGcuH_nLJZ7qP9XppXS9eCqcjzPHSdwtsyovqVg
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/opinion/sunday/free-speech-social-media-violence.html?searchResultPosition=1

"The E.U. Orders Global Censorship of Comments Calling Austrian Politician a ‘Corrupt Oaf’ "

"Free Speech Is Killing Us"


Coming soon to a Nation near you.

Thank you, UL FDS GBS TDS affected ‘Useful Idiots’ !



Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by T And T Garage on 10/07/19 at 09:29:53

Peddling fear.  Nice.


No different than the whole "war on Christmas".

No different than "Obama will institute sharia law!"

No different than "Sandy Hook was a false flag".

Etc., etc.

Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by MnSpring on 10/07/19 at 12:06:05


667877767B667D60120 wrote:
Peddling fear.

That all ya got !!! LOLOOOLOOLOLO

"This is political censorship of criticism against her. It wasn't a "web giant" who called her an oaf. It was a citizen of her country who disagreed with her position, and she didn't like it."

"THE HAGUE, Netherlands (CN) — The European Union’s highest court ruled Thursday that nations can order Facebook to remove content from its platform worldwide."

"Today, the European Court of Justice ruled that not only did Facebook have to take these posts down worldwide, it also has to remove content that duplicates or repeats any statements that have been deemed defamatory."


https://reason.com/2019/10/03/the-e-u-orders-global-censorship-of-comments-calling-austrian-politician-a-corrupt-oaf/?fbclid=IwAR3ygzkLjNAzi7Z68dRnWGcuH_nLJZ7qP9XppXS9eCqcjzPHSdwtsyovqVg

Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by T And T Garage on 10/07/19 at 12:13:29


785B6645475C5B52350 wrote:
[quote author=667877767B667D60120 link=1570465266/0#1 date=1570465793]Peddling fear.

That all ya got !!! LOLOOOLOOLOLO

Um, that's all I need, thanks.

This is NOT happening here.

This is NOT going to happen here.

You're pushing fear.

Talk about a snowflake....

LOL

[/quote]

Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by MnSpring on 10/07/19 at 12:55:20


293738393429322F5D0 wrote:
This is NOT happening here.

Not YET !

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

(Gotta BAN, that, 'SCARY', GUN)

Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by T And T Garage on 10/07/19 at 13:33:53


40635E7D7F64636A0D0 wrote:
[quote author=293738393429322F5D0 link=1570465266/0#3 date=1570475609]This is NOT happening here.

Not YET !

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

(Gotta BAN, that, 'SCARY', GUN)
[/quote]


No, not yet, nor ever.

Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by verslagen1 on 10/08/19 at 09:22:47

You do understand that world wide is here too?

Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/19 at 10:26:04


7B687F7E616C6A68633C0D0 wrote:
You do understand that world wide is here too?


So you're saying that what happens in other countries is destined to happen here - always?

Seriously?

My what little faith you have in our Constitution....

Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by verslagen1 on 10/08/19 at 13:17:27


160807060B160D10620 wrote:
[quote author=7B687F7E616C6A68633C0D0 link=1570465266/0#6 date=1570551767]You do understand that world wide is here too?


So you're saying that what happens in other countries is destined to happen here - always?

Seriously?

My what little faith you have in our Constitution....[/quote]

"Today, the European Court of Justice ruled that not only did Facebook have to take these posts down worldwide, it also has to remove content that duplicates or repeats any statements that have been deemed defamatory."

Do you understand the concept of "worldwide"?

Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by Serowbot on 10/08/19 at 13:42:11

You want to play on Facebook,... you play by Facebook's rules.
Freedom of speech doesn't apply.

e.g,... You want to post a flyer in my business window,... you need my approval.

Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/19 at 13:44:52


243720213E3335373C63520 wrote:
[quote author=160807060B160D10620 link=1570465266/0#7 date=1570555564][quote author=7B687F7E616C6A68633C0D0 link=1570465266/0#6 date=1570551767]You do understand that world wide is here too?


So you're saying that what happens in other countries is destined to happen here - always?

Seriously?

My what little faith you have in our Constitution....[/quote]

"Today, the European Court of Justice ruled that not only did Facebook have to take these posts down worldwide, it also has to remove content that duplicates or repeats any statements that have been deemed defamatory."

Do you understand the concept of "worldwide"?
[/quote]

OK then, be our huckleberry and let everyone post anything they want here...

No?... I DEMAND FREE SPEECH!!

(ever hear about privately owned and operated - see how that works?)

Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by Eegore on 10/08/19 at 14:07:58


You want to play on Facebook,... you play by Facebook's rules.
Freedom of speech doesn't apply.

e.g,... You want to post a flyer in my business window,... you need my approval.


 This may be true, but we established on here back when Alex Jones was removed from Twitter that it constitutes "abuse" and shouldn't be allowed.  These companies have to let all people say anything they want, or its abuse apparently.

Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by verslagen1 on 10/08/19 at 14:30:49


524C43424F524954260 wrote:
[quote author=243720213E3335373C63520 link=1570465266/0#8 date=1570565847][quote author=160807060B160D10620 link=1570465266/0#7 date=1570555564][quote author=7B687F7E616C6A68633C0D0 link=1570465266/0#6 date=1570551767]You do understand that world wide is here too?


So you're saying that what happens in other countries is destined to happen here - always?

Seriously?

My what little faith you have in our Constitution....[/quote]

"Today, the European Court of Justice ruled that not only did Facebook have to take these posts down worldwide, it also has to remove content that duplicates or repeats any statements that have been deemed defamatory."

Do you understand the concept of "worldwide"?
[/quote]

OK then, be our huckleberry and let everyone post anything they want here...

No?... I DEMAND FREE SPEECH!!

(ever hear about privately owned and operated - see how that works?)
[/quote]
You are a stable genius... NOT!

Do you realize you've just defended both sides of the fence?

Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/19 at 14:49:09


2D3E2928373A3C3E356A5B0 wrote:
You are a stable genius... NOT!

Wow... that's about as clever as you deleting my posts....

Do you realize you've just defended both sides of the fence?


Sorry, no, I'm not defending either side.  I'm pointing out that this forum is just like Facebook.  What you and mn don't seem to realize is that the laws in the EU are different than they are here. (duh)

You and he have some strange fear that the EU is somehow going to dictate to us and I'm saying that's not going to happen.  Further, Facebook is not a government entity and can block at their own will.    Yes, within the EU, they have to follow their rules, just like here.  But if you read anything more about the story, you'd know that this is an ongoing issue - EU legislators plan to reconsider laws relevant to both parts of the court’s decision. Although they are unlikely to rule out blocking technologies altogether, they could at least limit them to cases in which they are proved necessary, accurate and not an undue impediment on privacy or speech.


Hey, besides, your boy trump would never do such a thing.... would he?...

smh

Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by verslagen1 on 10/08/19 at 15:17:22


554B444548554E53210 wrote:
Sorry, no, I'm not defending either side.  I'm pointing out that this forum is just like Facebook.  What you and mn don't seem to realize is that the laws in the EU are different than they are here. (duh)


Quote:
So you're saying that what happens in other countries is destined to happen here - always?

Seriously?

My what little faith you have in our Constitution....

Here you say it won't happen and here you say...

Quote:
OK then, be our huckleberry and let everyone post anything they want here...

No?... I DEMAND FREE SPEECH!!

(ever hear about privately owned and operated - see how that works?)

it can.

Keep spinning.

Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/19 at 15:19:21


2C3F2829363B3D3F346B5A0 wrote:
[quote author=554B444548554E53210 link=1570465266/0#13 date=1570571349]

Sorry, no, I'm not defending either side.  I'm pointing out that this forum is just like Facebook.  What you and mn don't seem to realize is that the laws in the EU are different than they are here. (duh)


Quote:
So you're saying that what happens in other countries is destined to happen here - always?

Seriously?

My what little faith you have in our Constitution....

Here you say it won't happen and here you say...

Quote:
OK then, be our huckleberry and let everyone post anything they want here...

No?... I DEMAND FREE SPEECH!!

(ever hear about privately owned and operated - see how that works?)

it can.

Keep spinning.[/quote]


Yep, that just proves my point of how things are different here than they are in the EU....

Keep deleting my posts....

Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by MnSpring on 10/08/19 at 16:20:00


2335223F27323F24500 wrote:
e.g,... You want to post a flyer in my business window,... you need my approval.

Someone comes to you with a flyer, you say:
'No Way will I put that up"
Then a Global Court, says Globally, you Have to put it up.

Someone comes to you with a flier, you say:
"Wonderful Put it up"
Then a Global Court, says Globally, you Have to take it down.

Do you believe ether, or both, are, Censoring speech?
After all, it is YOUR place, not theirs !
Yet THEY are, 'Telling You', what to do.

Now the, "The E.U. Orders Global Censorship of Comments" ,
IS HERE, (We, are, Global)
Does it affect us, people in a Free Country ?
It don't affect me.
(Well until a, 'red' law is passed then tt can say,
See, See, See, told ya so,   told ya,  told ya,  told ya )

Title: Re: Free Speech
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/19 at 06:02:50


64477A595B40474E290 wrote:
[quote author=2335223F27323F24500 link=1570465266/0#9 date=1570567331]e.g,... You want to post a flyer in my business window,... you need my approval.

Someone comes to you with a flyer, you say:
'No Way will I put that up"
Then a Global Court, says Globally, you Have to put it up.

Someone comes to you with a flier, you say:
"Wonderful Put it up"
Then a Global Court, says Globally, you Have to take it down.

Do you believe ether, or both, are, Censoring speech?
After all, it is YOUR place, not theirs !
Yet THEY are, 'Telling You', what to do.

Now the, "The E.U. Orders Global Censorship of Comments" ,
IS HERE, (We, are, Global)
Does it affect us, people in a Free Country ?
It don't affect me.
(Well until a, 'red' law is passed then tt can say,
See, See, See, told ya so,   told ya,  told ya,  told ya )
[/quote]



LOL - I'm living in your head rent-free!

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