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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 08/18/19 at 19:54:12

Title: So glad I can do this
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/18/19 at 19:54:12

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Title: Re: So glad I can do this
Post by T And T Garage on 08/19/19 at 05:40:28

Well, jog - the fact is, a majority of Americans support Medicare for all, dislike the president, don't feel as though the tax cuts did anything for them, want the 1% and corporations to pay more and several other "lib" proposals.

Guess we'll see in 2020, huh?

Title: Re: So glad I can do this
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/19/19 at 10:11:31

If a majority support Medicare for all
Then the majority are about to vote for an economic disaster and a medical system that will see a lot of death visited on its customers.
I really hope the masses aren't stupid enough to believe that would be a good idea.
Just because a majority supports something doesn't make it smart.
But HEY, you sure were right about how Hillary was gonna wipe the floor with Trump,

Title: Re: So glad I can do this
Post by T And T Garage on 08/19/19 at 11:06:10

617E787F62655464546C7E72390B0 wrote:

If a majority support Medicare for all
Then the majority are about to vote for an economic disaster and a medical system that will see a lot of death visited on its customers.

Yep, pretty much what they said about Medicare in the first place.

I really hope the masses aren't stupid enough to believe that would be a good idea.
Just because a majority supports something doesn't make it smart.

But giving trillions in tax breaks to the rich does? That bill alone would have gone a long way in paying for Medicare For All. But you'd rather see the waltons get richer? smh..

But HEY, you sure were right about how Hillary was gonna wipe the floor with Trump,

I wasn't on here then, pay attention. But just to be clear, trump lost the popular vote by 3 million and won the electoral by about as many people go and see a college bowl game.... so....

Title: Re: So glad I can do this
Post by T And T Garage on 08/19/19 at 11:07:24

Oh, and BTW, they guy in the photo of the OP is probably working without benefits unless he's in a union. And, chances are, his wages have been stagnant for years.

Title: Re: So glad I can do this
Post by Serowbot on 08/19/19 at 13:58:19

37282E2934330232023A28246F5D0 wrote:

A majority of countries have a NHS that's works and costs 3 to 5 times less and gives better results than we have.
Funny how we can't afford to pay less for more... :-?

Title: Re: So glad I can do this I
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/19/19 at 15:26:40

Yeah, works so well that when my wife was in Scott and White hospital, in TEXAS, the hospital parking lot was well populated with RVs from Canada.
They were lucky enough to have money to rent an RV, drive all the way South to Texas, and stay with their loved one.
I doubt a buncha Texans are in Canada for medical treatment.
Your
Opinion
Of how well it's working and what it's costing is actually meaningless.
I knew a recent retiree from another forum.
Gosh, in good enough shape to make bike trips, meet-ups, camp out..
Got a little upper respiratory thing going, they kept denying him treatment and it turned into pneumonia and he DIED. It was a several weeks process and he complained about how all he needed was some antibiotics and that he was just slowly getting sicker and they kept denying treatment..
And he DIED,,

Yeah, you Think you know what you want.

Title: Re: So glad I can do this I
Post by Serowbot on 08/19/19 at 16:00:03

091610170A0D3C0C3C04161A51630 wrote:

And he DIED,,

Yeah, you Think you know what you want.

Setting aside the personal anecdotes of you and your wife in Texasville...
NHS has longer life expectancies, lower childbirth complications, healthier lives, higher satisfaction with care, and many,.. many Americans go to Canada, England, France for better care.
...and it costs less.

Here's a little story about your hero... Rand Paul
He paid out of pocket,... Canadians wouldn't have to.
He paid the extra for the very best, that America couldn't offer.
That Canadians get every day.
I don't know if he drove a Winnebago and slept in the parking lot.?...

Rand Paul headed to Canada for surgery, but will pay out of pocket
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/14/rand-paul-canada-surgery-neighbor-attack-1099485

He's very close to Texas... his daddy's a Texan, right?
Both doctors?...
..but he chose Canada for his care....
He musta' felt like living dangerous... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: So glad I can do this
Post by Eegore on 08/19/19 at 16:11:38

So regarding "denying him treatment "

I've asked this multiple times and nobody will answer.

What part of the current healthcare reform that has now opened the door for the return of pre-existing coverage denial and limits on coverage amounts is beneficial?

Title: Re: So glad I can do this
Post by Serowbot on 08/19/19 at 16:31:51

It's beneficial to the HMO's bottom line... ;D

Title: Re: So glad I can do this
Post by Eegore on 08/19/19 at 19:51:09

Yeah that's absolutely true.