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Title: The Big Lie Post by WebsterMark on 08/09/19 at 08:32:59 Today is a big day in St Louis and for leftist across the country. It's the day the big lie of Hands Up; Don't Shoot started 5 years ago. We've already been treated to nauseating garbage from our local media. You'd think f'ing Gandhi was killed 5 years ago...... The revisionist history going on is astounding to watch. |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by T And T Garage on 08/09/19 at 08:35:50 4C7E79686F7E69567A69701B0 wrote:
Aww.. sorry that the death of unarmed African Americans cramps your style. Gee your life's tough, mark.... |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by MnSpring on 08/09/19 at 08:46:16 'the death of unarmed African Americans' Has nothing to do with that. Has everything to do with the LIE, a person was shot in the back while his 'hand were up'. Expected deflection and spin. What is the 'H' word ? |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by T And T Garage on 08/09/19 at 08:52:02 1B380526243F3831560 wrote:
LOL - you keep asking what that "H" word is... and now I see that you actually don't know what it is or what it means... ;D Let put it to you this way, mn - the "Hands up don't shoot" protest is about African Americans getting shot by police even when they are unarmed and pose no threat to heavily armed, poorly trained police officers. There is no hypocrisy (if that's the h-word you're talking about). It's fact that they are treated with much higher force than white suspects. There, you've been educated. You're welcome. |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by MnSpring on 08/09/19 at 09:10:26 637D72737E637865170 wrote:
So in your book, 'pose no threat', is: Beating on someone forcefully. Trying to take their gun. Reaching for something, just after they stated, 'I have a Gun'. Running at someone with a extended knife. ONLY, if they have a certain color skin. Gee, that sure sounds, Racist to me, (and BILLIONS of others) Hea, hows that Socialism going for ya ? |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by T And T Garage on 08/09/19 at 09:15:08 64477A595B40474E290 wrote:
So in your book, 'pose no threat', is: Beating on someone forcefully. Trying to take their gun. Reaching for something, just after they stated, 'I have a Gun'. Running at someone with a extended knife. ONLY, if they have a certain color skin. Gee, that sure sounds, Racist to me, (and BILLIONS of others) Hea, hows that Socialism going for ya ? - Again, it's going great (do you have a comprehension problem?) [/quote] I won't think for a femtosecond that you will ever understand. To a degree, I won't either. But I do know this - African Americans, when being confronted by police are dealt with deadly force far more often than necessary or when compared to whites. |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by WebsterMark on 08/09/19 at 09:31:34 won't think for a femtosecond that you will ever understand. To a degree, I won't either. But I do know this - African Americans, when being confronted by police are dealt with deadly force far more often than necessary or when compared to whites. Is that true? |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by T And T Garage on 08/09/19 at 09:37:40 645651404756417E524158330 wrote:
Yes. |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by Serowbot on 08/09/19 at 09:39:50 Just Googled femtosecond... Thanks Google ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by T And T Garage on 08/09/19 at 09:45:34 So... which guy was selling loose cigarettes and which one killed over 20 people in El Paso? http://preview.redd.it/smu8zhktrbe31.jpg?width=750&auto=webp&s=ff86219fe31306955bad1a7030a22d3737ea7779 |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by Eegore on 08/09/19 at 09:53:34 "Is that true?" Statistically it is when comparing to whites. I'm not sure there is a way, at this time, to evaluate accurately "more than necessary". This will change once an independent contractor is allowed to upload body-cam footage and present it to multiple panels for review. |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by WebsterMark on 08/09/19 at 10:06:35 I remember a Washington Post article that said otherwise. But why would body cam footage change it? |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by Eegore on 08/09/19 at 10:29:19 "But why would body cam footage change it?" Empirical evidence. No more witness statements, victim or officer statements. The footage presents an actual event measurable in real time with actual not "recalled" dialogue. Of course "necessary" will still be up for debate so each event would require multiple evaluations from diverse and educated panels. For instance it would be easy to evaluate how necessary shooting a suspect is if the footage clearly shows the suspect kneeling with his hands up saying "I give up" followed with 6 shots to the head and body. No matter how many officer statements say he was running at the officer the camera footage with the exception of heavily edited and CGI modification would provide more accurate evidence. It would be more difficult to establish how "necessary" a shooting is if a suspect is standing, has said he has a gun and is not raising his hands. However no amount of witness testimony that the suspect was kneeling down pleading for his life would impact a proper evaluation. |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by MnSpring on 08/09/19 at 12:17:54 415F50515C415A47350 wrote:
Perhaps you can answer some questions, so their is more information, so their is no, spin/fear, assumptions made. Which one was running away ? Which one was mentally Ill, and just stood their ? |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by T And T Garage on 08/09/19 at 13:58:43 7655684B4952555C3B0 wrote:
Perhaps you can answer some questions, so their is more information, so their is no, spin/fear, assumptions made. Which one was running away ? Which one was mentally Ill, and just stood their ? [/quote] LOL - "their", "there" and "they're".... still don't get it, huh? By the way, genius, the guy selling cigarettes, was way too fat to run. They just had to tackle him to feel like big men. Go watch the footage and then educate yourself on the proper use of "their", "there" and "they're" - it makes you look stupid. |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by WebsterMark on 08/10/19 at 03:56:29 Go watch the footage and then educate yourself on the proper use of "their", "there" and "they're" - it makes you look stupid. It makes you look childish, mean and petty to constantly point it out. |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by WebsterMark on 08/11/19 at 05:15:53 4D535C5D504D564B390 wrote:
Yes.[/quote] Are you sure? https://nypost.com/2019/08/05/why-policing-is-racist-is-such-a-poisonous-lie/ https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877 |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/11/19 at 05:58:57 Statistics were provided months ago. The media drive the PERCEPTION. Just like Trump is a racist Bullshit. Information that absolutely contradicts that lie is available. Lefties will not care. |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by MnSpring on 08/11/19 at 07:44:37 332D22232E332835470 wrote:
When someone says the above. Then someone says the below: 6E5C5B4A4D5C4B74584B52390 wrote:
What would be a appropriate name to call the first poster ? "...no evidence of anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparities across shootings, and White officers are not more likely to shoot minority civilians than non-White officers..." "...A new study ... ...demolishes the Democratic narrative regarding race and police shootings. It turns out that white officers are no more likely than black or Hispanic officers to shoot black civilians. ..." |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by T And T Garage on 08/11/19 at 11:42:42 7D4F48595E4F58674B58412A0 wrote:
Hey, I'm just trying to help out those that need it. |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by T And T Garage on 08/11/19 at 11:43:32 370502131405122D01120B600 wrote:
Yes.[/quote] Are you sure? Yes, I'm sure. https://nypost.com/2019/08/05/why-policing-is-racist-is-such-a-poisonous-lie/ https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877[/quote] |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by MnSpring on 08/11/19 at 15:16:12 WOW tt says: that they are treated with much higher force than white suspects. ...is about African Americans getting shot by police... WM says: Is that true? tt says: Yes. WM says: Are you sure? tt says: Yes, I'm sure. Then goes on to post links that totally prove tt WRONG. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D their, there, they're now tt, Don't cry ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D "...no evidence of anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparities across shootings, and White officers are not more likely to shoot minority civilians than non-White officers..." "...A new study ... ...demolishes the Democratic narrative regarding race and police shootings. It turns out that white officers are no more likely than black or Hispanic officers to shoot black civilians. ..." |
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Title: Re: The Big Lie Post by Eegore on 08/11/19 at 19:58:21 To be fair in that very same paragraph you left out this: The uncertainty around these estimates highlights the need for more data before drawing conclusions about disparities in specific types of shootings. |
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