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Title: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by T And T Garage on 08/03/19 at 15:48:24 http://www.yahoo.com/gma/police-el-paso-issue-report-active-shooter-173500204--abc-news-topstories.html More guns my big, white a$$!! This was NOT a gun free zone - this was fukcing El Paso!! There were plenty of "good guys with guns". Why did 18 people have to die? Because we are a nation of fukcing gun nuts - that's why. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Serowbot on 08/03/19 at 16:02:36 Latest 19 dead,.. 40 injured. Geez,.. this is a bad one. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/03/19 at 16:44:00 Aaaaand once again, gun free zone. The victims were unable to defend themselves. When seconds count The cops are only MINUTES away. Blame the death toll on Yourselves. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by pg on 08/03/19 at 16:52:09 736D62636E736875070 wrote:
That is part of the price of freedom. You and Bot both own guns, why haven't you turned them in or destroy them? I have been to that mall on several occasions. I lived in that part of the world for several years; hence, my first hand knowledge of the border. That is for another thread though... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El P:ao Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/03/19 at 17:00:57 Seriously? A mall without a Firearms prohibited Sign? Nobody returned fire? |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Eegore on 08/03/19 at 19:59:45 It wasn't a mall. It wasn't a gun free zone. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by raydawg on 08/03/19 at 20:46:23 Typical weekend in Chicago.....very sad, but without hope, faith, and a sustaining belief, oh well, late term abortions I guess. All ya can do is make sure your life is right, and enjoy every moment.... Go pound sand and blah, blah, blah, as if that is going to change anything at all..... Lets just put a bow around it and blame Trump. There, I fixed that. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by WebsterMark on 08/04/19 at 05:11:14 I read what this guy left behind, his reasoning for doing this. Much like the other manifestos, it has elements of truth linked together with inaccuracies and massive over-generalized talking points from both sides of the political spectrum. He had three main themes. First and foremost was what the changing cultural makeup of the country, Texas in particular. Second was the infestation of corporate influence over the political world and third was the pending doom to the environment of the earth due to mankind. Rational people, which includes everyone on here, are able to balance the over the top hyperbole we hear everyday with the reality of the world in front of us. This guy (and now perhaps the Dayton shooter) could not. I think this other news I heard is basically is the same thing only manifested differently. I heard yesterday about the Air Force and Marines attempting to address high suicide rates. I read that suicide is 2nd leading cause of death for millennials behind accidents. Assuming for a second suicide rates have climbed the past couple of decades and this is not simply a result of more honest and accurate data collection, seems to me there's a common link between these young mass shooters and young suicides. Is it a feeling of hopelessness? That everyone else is able to enjoy life, that everyone else has it better, that everyone else has a better job, prettier wife, more sex, more money, everyone else just has it better. Is our over sensitivity towards ensuring a safe, happy and prosperous childhood the past couple of generations delayed the pains of reality from the adolescent years into adulthood where some are less able to deal with disappointment and rejection in a healthy manner? |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by WebsterMark on 08/04/19 at 05:34:01 And what role does access to literally millions of people online play? It has to be significant. Think for a moment the hatred created on this site. It didn't exist before, but it does now and has a lifespan, perhaps forever. In the real world, any interaction I would have had with my Chicago friend would have been polite but very short lived. I would not hang put with him. From his end, any interaction he undertook with me would be polite but equally short lived. Likewise any interactions he might have with Ray, MN, JOG or PG. If he and Sew were neighbors, they might meet up at the local real Tall Table for a beer or two. Instead, hate has increased. Think for a moment if that El Paso guy had owed a Suzuki Savage and had been on here. And as a side note, the default position of hate is not automatically a bad thing. Hate is not the opposite of love, selfishness is. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Matchless G11 on 08/04/19 at 05:56:12 [quote author=437176676071665975667F140 link=1564872504/0#7 date=1564920674]I read what this guy left behind, his reasoning for and third was the pending doom to the environment of the earth due to mankind. Oh Mark, why is any one upset? he was just doing what Klanned Parent hood has been doing for years, getting rid of unwanted people. 'If they would rather die,' 'they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population. Charles Dickens' 1843 |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Ed L. on 08/04/19 at 06:31:54 And we have another one, Dayton Ohio just got the 250th mass shooting this year with 9 shot dead and multiple wounded. This isn't the America I grew up in. So much for the 50th anniversary of peace, love and Woodstock. :( |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Matchless G11 on 08/04/19 at 07:22:23 07261D0E6C420 wrote:
Sadly Ed L this is America now, but the seeds of the problem were planted around the time Woodstock. "love the one you're with." "Don't worry about tomorrow, live for today." "tune in turn on and drop out." Free love doesn't work, true love is binding. Mothers and fathers back in their day would give their lives for their kids (binding) . Now kids don't know their father, they don't know what love is. The world is just for me. I heard a conversation outside a abortion clinic yesterday. A girl going into the clinic yelled "I am here to kill my baby, and I am glad." When life is so unloved, is it any wonder people turn to violence? |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by raydawg on 08/04/19 at 07:43:38 Who is surprised when you use hate based identity politics to divide folks to empower your own selfish desires.... You find a villain and then promote yourself as the great hope at slaying this threat..... The forbidden fruit is a perfect example of what happens when you allow sin into your world, even if you think just a wee bit you can control..... The gun is merely a tool of hate, without the motivation of hate to use it to act and express that hate, it might as well be a club.... Until we push and hold those who purvey hate, for gain, we will never begin to stop the insanity of those who strike against a free society . You think your hate is just.......? Think again. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Serowbot on 08/04/19 at 07:57:50 130A04045252110617060008505756630 wrote:
Most other civilized countries have legal abortion,... but not the shootings. There is no correlation between legal abortion and shootings. America has two unique features... guns... and shootings. Oh yeah,.. and gun nuts that will tie themselves into a pretzel to avoid that reality. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by T And T Garage on 08/04/19 at 08:06:55 30292727717132253425232B737475400 wrote:
Funny, mark posts about how I perpetuate hate (not even close) - yet you, match, who hasn't posted on here very much use the phrase "Klanned Parenthood". Do you conservatives see your own hypocrisy? Obviously not. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by T And T Garage on 08/04/19 at 08:12:56 495E58545B4B390 wrote:
That is part of the price of freedom. Really? The price of freedom? You willing to let your (wife, child, family member) give their life to keep your guns, or let others keep theirs? You and Bot both own guns, why haven't you turned them in or destroy them? I have been to that mall on several occasions. I lived in that part of the world for several years; hence, my first hand knowledge of the border. That is for another thread though... It's not about the kind of guns I own (I can't speak to Sero). I don't have an assault weapon. I don't have extended magazines, I don't have a history of mental instability, I've never committed a felony - shall I go on?? Best regards, [/quote] |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by T And T Garage on 08/04/19 at 08:24:40 55465E43465040270 wrote:
No, you're actually making it worse. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by thumperclone on 08/04/19 at 08:26:04 el paso was a race thing imo the highchair king of fifth ave white nationalism rhetoric is caustic now 9 dead in ohio |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by T And T Garage on 08/04/19 at 08:27:18 716D706875607766696A6B60050 wrote:
Agreed. Sadly, a majority of the right doesn't see it that way. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by pg on 08/04/19 at 08:34:05 2D333C3D302D362B590 wrote:
That is part of the price of freedom. Really? The price of freedom? You willing to let your (wife, child, family member) give their life to keep your guns, or let others keep theirs? You and Bot both own guns, why haven't you turned them in or destroy them? I have been to that mall on several occasions. I lived in that part of the world for several years; hence, my first hand knowledge of the border. That is for another thread though... It's not about the kind of guns I own (I can't speak to Sero). I don't have an assault weapon. I don't have extended magazines, I don't have a history of mental instability, I've never committed a felony - shall I go on?? Best regards, [/quote] [/quote] This past century upwards of 100M people parished who didn't have the means to protect themselves. Those people suffered at the hands of people of whom you share their ideologies. It is the second amendment for a reason. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by T And T Garage on 08/04/19 at 08:37:44 283F39353A2A580 wrote:
Please - that sh!t don't float here pro golfer. The fact is - we have over 300 million guns in private hands in this country (some say it's probably upwards of 450 million). Don't try and justify these mass shooting with "protecting yourself". Why do you think we've had hundreds of mass shootings this year? Because there aren't enough guns? That's laughable - truly and utterly laughable. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Serowbot on 08/04/19 at 08:42:00 pg, are you smokin' the same stuff as Dawg?... What is with all this waxing poetic?. Lumping 50 million dead in WWII with gun legislation is nonsense. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Serowbot on 08/04/19 at 08:56:46 I have guns... For a while, I was seduced by their precision and accuracy. Mostly 22 plinkers, of which 4 were given or bequeathed... Mostly revolvers.. nothing military or high capacity or power. The thrill is gone,.. I keep one revolver loaded in my home for protection, it never leaves my home. That's it. If the government wants it, they can have it. These toys are dangerous,.. and they are toys. Nobody in modern America has need for guns, other than to defend against other guns. And what kind of circular logic is that?. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by thumperclone on 08/04/19 at 09:39:28 the 2nd amendment was meant to arm a militia to keep the government in line |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by pg on 08/04/19 at 09:49:35 485659585548534E3C0 wrote:
Please - that sh!t don't float here pro golfer. The fact is - we have over 300 million guns in private hands in this country (some say it's probably upwards of 450 million). Don't try and justify these mass shooting with "protecting yourself". Why do you think we've had hundreds of mass shootings this year? Because there aren't enough guns? That's laughable - truly and utterly laughable. [/quote] My position is it is better to be able to protect your than not and I did not say it was flawless position. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by pg on 08/04/19 at 09:52:01 3C203D25382D3A2B2427262D480 wrote:
Easy now,I don't think Bot wants organized rednecks with more guns.... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Serowbot on 08/04/19 at 10:10:20 4F585E525D4D3F0 wrote:
Easy now,I don't think Bot wants organized rednecks with more guns.... Best regards,[/quote] At that time,.. the "government" was King George... or had been for the past 200 years. It wasn't to shoot themselves... You were, at that time, just declaring independence.. You wanted a militia at the ready in case it went south. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Eegore on 08/04/19 at 10:24:35 "the 2nd amendment was meant to arm a militia to keep the government in line" There isn't a single civilian owned firearm that will stop "The Government" from assuming control, or destroying their personal property. All these guys housing thousands of round in their basement, cleaning their Barret 50 cal and their AR's are a speck of dust to a cruise missile fired from over 100 miles away. Drones overhead with FLIR firing rockets at night from miles away don't care about your shotgun. A tree blocking a roadway to your neighborhood means nothing to an Apache dumping rounds into your home. Your guns will not stop "The Government" this isn't the 1700's anymore. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by pg on 08/04/19 at 12:45:43 0A2A28203D2A4F0 wrote:
I never said they would stop anything, it is a means to protect oneself and property. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Matchless G11 on 08/04/19 at 14:13:42 415F50515C415A47350 wrote:
Funny, mark posts about how I perpetuate hate (not even close) - yet you, match, who hasn't posted on here very much use the phrase "Klanned Parenthood". Do you conservatives see your own hypocrisy? Obviously not.[/quote] It is not hate when I point out the truth about the founder of planned parent hood being a racist. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by MnSpring on 08/04/19 at 14:24:12 3523342931242932460 wrote:
Nobody in modern America has need for golf clubs. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Serowbot on 08/04/19 at 14:50:27 How fast can you kill 27 people with a golf club?... The Dayton shooter was engaged by police within 20 seconds,... he was dead within 30 seconds,... 8 dead, 16 injured. Good guy with a gun has to hear shots,.. locate shooter, get a shot, aim, fire,... hopefully hit... It can't get faster. It can't stop 9 dead, 16 injured. Bad guy with a golf club... 2 swings and gets his arse kicked. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Eegore on 08/04/19 at 15:43:11 Rate of murder per second is part of the issue no matter how many people want to say the 2nd Amendment is our right and as such we should own any firearm we want. We don't have a constitutional right to own rocket launchers or grenades for part of that reason. Rate of murder per second. Comparing a baseball bat, or a knife to an AR-15 is a poor argument. Nobody is going to believe a golf-club will murder as many people in a Wal-Mart as an AR-15, or in any place at any time ever. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Serowbot on 08/04/19 at 16:16:04 Trump calls mass shootings ‘a mental illness problem’ The El Paso shooters father is a mental health counselor... Oh, the irony... Better mental health care and screening isn't a bad idea,... but it isn't the solution. Neither is the good guy with a gun. Not when 30 seconds can cost 8 lives. The solution is making mass murder take more time and harder to accomplish. 100 round semi-auto's are too easy. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Eegore on 08/04/19 at 17:09:38 "The solution is making mass murder take more time and harder to accomplish." I agree. This has been the most successful method for years. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by pg on 08/04/19 at 17:24:19 Ok, let me know when you destroy your firearms and put a 5-iron next to your nightstand. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/04/19 at 17:59:39 It's pointless to say it again. The second amendment is about the People having the RIGHT to keep and bear arms in order to protect themselves from the tyranny of a government that has ceased to be what the Constitution requires. You don't like it? Bye.. Because YOU are NOT Americans. You are socialists. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by WebsterMark on 08/04/19 at 19:23:42 Did any of you read the writing he left? |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/04/19 at 20:26:29 I did. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Eegore on 08/04/19 at 21:33:38 Well once I see an example of a militia stopping a submarine from leveling their compound with a cruise missile I will reconsider the idea that any civilian owned firearms are going to stop government tyranny. I agree with the right to bear arms for means of personal safety, but I do not agree that any organized militia group will stop The Government from eradicating any neighborhood in the US. That was the intention back in the 1700's when civilians had a fighting chance, but today it is a completely different story. A good computer infiltration network will do far more damage these days. Truth is a handful of guys in their mother's basements have a better chance of protecting us from The Government than anyone storing ammunition and hitting the range where nothing shoots back would ever do. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by pg on 08/05/19 at 03:24:13 0525272F3225400 wrote:
Please elaborate on the need to shoot thousands of rounds out of an M4 this month. This happens consistently with M-4s. I have posted here about the amount of ammunition I barrel and re-use at official ranges numbering in the hundreds of thousands. I have seen plenty of times shells eject slightly forward as well as bounce all over the place. My group will fire over 6000 rounds this month alone. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by WebsterMark on 08/05/19 at 04:33:04 6C7375726F6859695961737F34060 wrote:
Good, then you can comment on the shooters motivation, etc. Otherwise, you can't and should just shut up cause you'd just be spewing nonsense. It's clear 99% of what I've read this morning are from those who didn't read it or those who did and purposely misrepresent the deranged man's state of mind. (Beto) Or maybe they're justbto stupid to comprehend sentences. (Again, Beto) |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by WebsterMark on 08/05/19 at 04:37:27 526067767160774864776E050 wrote:
Again, I circle back to this point. There's a relationship between suicides and mass shooters of random crowds. There's a commonality between them. I think it relates to feelings in gross inadequacy where in one case it manifest itself inward on themselves and in another case its outwards towards each other. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by WebsterMark on 08/05/19 at 04:52:28 I agree with the right to bear arms for means of personal safety, but I do not agree that any organized militia group will stop The Government from eradicating any neighborhood in the US. That was the intention back in the 1700's when civilians had a fighting chance, but today it is a completely different story. I disagree. Nations have been trying to take care of Afghanistan for about as long as I can remember for just one example. Our war against terror in many cases is essentially against an armed, civilian militia, fighting within neighborhoods. Unless the government turns gun ships to raze neighborhoods to rubble (which they won't do anymore than we are doing to the neighborhoods we're fighting in overseas) its a giant police action. You leftist let your Trump imaginations run wild and ridiculously imagine him a dictator or something, so let your imaginations run wild and dream of Trump using the military to rout out you soft-commies and get rid of you once and for all. You Eegore, Sew and TT along with a few million others are now enemies of the state. What are you gonna do? Rachel Maddow and Bill Mahre have been sent off to one of Trump's golf courses to cut grass and have not been seen again. What are you gonna do? |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by MnSpring on 08/05/19 at 07:25:28 2606040C1106630 wrote:
Agree with that. "...once I see an example of a militia stopping a submarine from leveling their compound with a cruise missile I will reconsider the idea that any civilian owned firearms are going to stop government tyranny..." That will not happen. If the US military can not do that in Kora, Vietnam, or any part of the Middle East. They would never do that on US soil. And if they were ever 'ordered' to do that by the likes of AOC/BS/and other Socialists. They also would defend their freedom. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Eegore on 08/05/19 at 07:42:04 "Please elaborate on the need to shoot thousands of rounds out of an M4 this month." I didn't indicate there was a "need" however it is a training and compliance issue with my work. I would call it more of a "requirement" issued by the Department of Defense. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Serowbot on 08/05/19 at 07:45:54 Can't blame anyone for wanting to distance themselves from this guy. You've got the tougher job. This guy was a white supremacist, immigrant hating, nationalist, that feared Democrat takeover of his precious Texas. The fact that he was already a racist before Trump, means very little. Trump's not making racists,.. he's legitimizing them. Make America White Again... is what drove him to kill. Yes, I read his manifesto,... (the parts not redacted)... Universal income is mentioned, not supported. Environmental decline is mentioned (good for him, I guess?) He didn't drive 800 miles to kill Mexicans for the environment. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by WebsterMark on 08/05/19 at 08:09:31 No, I don't have a tougher job. Anyone who thinks what Trump says is the straw that broke the camel's back is full of political partisanship $hit. All you want to do is scream white nationalist from the rooftop and pretend you're saying something of value. When Pulse nightclub shooting, you didn't blame all Islam and you didn't blame the current President despite the fact he was against gay marriage and was busy droning Islamic terrorist into 72 virgin heave. There's something wrong with people and it's more complicated than a soundbite. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by T And T Garage on 08/05/19 at 08:25:21 6F7678782E2E6D7A6B7A7C742C2B2A1F0 wrote:
Funny, mark posts about how I perpetuate hate (not even close) - yet you, match, who hasn't posted on here very much use the phrase "Klanned Parenthood". Do you conservatives see your own hypocrisy? Obviously not.[/quote] It is not hate when I point out the truth about the founder of planned parent hood being a racist. [/quote] LOL - of course it's not - in your mind. The fact is, no matter the origins of Planned Parenthood, it delivers much needed healthcare to women, not just abortion. But conservatives focus on one thing only. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Serowbot on 08/05/19 at 08:30:38 0B393E2F28392E113D2E375C0 wrote:
Look back through the 4 pages of this thread and compare my posts to yours... now tell me who's screaming. ...or even just the quote above. Tell the truth... |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by WebsterMark on 08/05/19 at 09:04:02 what am I screaming about? Far as I can tell, I'm the only one who made a thoughtful post looking at the big picture. You went straight to yet another gun control point. I don't know the details yet but odds are no reasonable gun control law would have prevented this, but like I said, don't know yet. A reasonable, big picture post that's not been expanded on. All many are doing is looking for blame. I read what this guy left behind, his reasoning for doing this. Much like the other manifestos, it has elements of truth linked together with inaccuracies and massive over-generalized talking points from both sides of the political spectrum. He had three main themes. First and foremost was what the changing cultural makeup of the country, Texas in particular. Second was the infestation of corporate influence over the political world and third was the pending doom to the environment of the earth due to mankind. Rational people, which includes everyone on here, are able to balance the over the top hyperbole we hear everyday with the reality of the world in front of us. This guy (and now perhaps the Dayton shooter) could not. I think this other news I heard is basically is the same thing only manifested differently. I heard yesterday about the Air Force and Marines attempting to address high suicide rates. I read that suicide is 2nd leading cause of death for millennials behind accidents. Assuming for a second suicide rates have climbed the past couple of decades and this is not simply a result of more honest and accurate data collection, seems to me there's a common link between these young mass shooters and young suicides. Is it a feeling of hopelessness? That everyone else is able to enjoy life, that everyone else has it better, that everyone else has a better job, prettier wife, more sex, more money, everyone else just has it better. Is our over sensitivity towards ensuring a safe, happy and prosperous childhood the past couple of generations delayed the pains of reality from the adolescent years into adulthood where some are less able to deal with disappointment and rejection in a healthy manner? |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by T And T Garage on 08/05/19 at 09:25:54 The facts of what's happening in this country are simple. What's really sad is that anyone gives this maniac's manifesto any creedence whatsoever. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Serowbot on 08/05/19 at 09:26:10 So far I've seen Conservatives blame video games, fake news, gay marriage and trans people, Climate Change, big business, mental illness, universal wage, and abortion,... ...but definitely not guns or white supremacists... :-? Kinda' laughable.... seriously, look at that list... |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by WebsterMark on 08/05/19 at 09:27:54 Whose not blamed white supremacist? |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Serowbot on 08/05/19 at 09:36:51 4B797E6F68796E517D6E771C0 wrote:
Um,.... you?... :-? I just went back over 4 pages and found nothing about white supremacy in your posts. ...sad, hopeless, adolescence.. corporate influence,.. changing culture, military suicides, environmental doom,.. lack of sex... No white supremacy... The guy posted his manifesto on a White supremacist site... Duhhhh!... might be a clue... |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by WebsterMark on 08/05/19 at 10:15:56 The guy was a f'ing fruitcake, white supremacist nut! That's obvious. I believe I pointed that obviousness out in my original note. What you're trying to do is lump anyone who objects to your brand of gun control as one and the same. And to lump Trump in a group of white supremacists is absolute nonsense. This is the problem with how you watering down racism to essentially anyone you disagree with. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Serowbot on 08/05/19 at 10:21:39 Trump says it's clearly mental illness... He's treading on thin ice there without a professional evaluation from a qualified PHD. Psychiatrist doing in person evaluation under strict clinical guidelines.... Doncha' think?... ;D |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by WebsterMark on 08/05/19 at 10:41:36 I think you need to shut this El Paso thread down. None of us are helping. I for one, am done. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Eegore on 08/05/19 at 11:56:44 Why is it if someone doesn't like the direction of a conversation do we need shut the thread down? Just stop posting, let others do what they want within the guidelines of the forum rules. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by T And T Garage on 08/05/19 at 13:27:18 4464666E7364010 wrote:
Dammit Eegore - why are you so always right!?!!! :) (as in, correct, that is) |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Serowbot on 08/05/19 at 13:36:22 Trump speaking to crowd at a rally... "It's an invasion. AN invasion. People don't like me saying invasion,.. but it's an invasion. What can you do about an invasion?"... ...and a crowd member screams "Shoot Them!"... The crowd roars with laughter as Trump smirks and smiles,... "Only in the Panhandle"... and laughs. Now, a guy drives 800 miles to the border town of El Paso and shoots up a Walmart 5 miles from the border, killing 22 people, injuring 20 others, posting a racist manifesto on a racist website...“if we can get rid of enough people, then our way of life can be more sustainable.” ...and Trump bears no responsibility?... No wonder Web wants to drop the topic. I've been saying Trump is racist for 2 years... Now, nearly all the Democrats are saying it openly,... world leaders are condemning Trump's racism... even some retired or retiring Republicans are saying it. Fox News people are saying it. Only Trump's core supporters are in denial. That number gets smaller every day. If you support Trump, you support a racist. If you're not a racist, I think it's time to stop supporting him. Nobody should join the KKK because they like the hats... Nobody should forgive Hitler because he liked dogs. Supporting a racist is racist. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by verslagen1 on 08/05/19 at 14:30:17 So the rest of the story is... the rally was in the Florida Panhandle, and in response to someone saying "shoot them" he clearly shakes his head no. But I know you can't see that with only one eye open. |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by Serowbot on 08/05/19 at 14:51:12 I don't think that's a "no" head shake... More like a "Oh, you guys,.. you know just what I'm talkin' about" That snicker right before gives him away... Great tan here though... he looks like a Mexican. ;D [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMCkzCJHfcU[/media] |
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Title: Re: 18 Dead In El Pao Post by T And T Garage on 08/06/19 at 06:16:13 7167706D75606D76020 wrote:
Christ - I totally forgot about this.... Thank you/damm you for reposting... :( |
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