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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> The Cafe >> New Bike in the Garage /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1564509345 Message started by VortecCPI on 07/30/19 at 10:55:42 |
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Title: New Bike in the Garage Post by VortecCPI on 07/30/19 at 10:55:42 Thought you guys might like to see the latest addition - 2017 HD XG750A Street Rod. Nobody around here knows what it is so wondering of you guys are familiar with it? |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by VortecCPI on 07/30/19 at 10:58:19 Other side... |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by Serowbot on 07/30/19 at 11:16:52 It's a Honda wearing Harley pants... |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by VortecCPI on 07/30/19 at 11:21:51 2D3B2C31293C312A5E0 wrote:
Yes - HDs attempt at a naked sport bike. Pretty good on the dyno: |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by Serowbot on 07/30/19 at 14:05:05 They do remind me very much of the 80's Honda Shadow 500 and 750. V-twin, water cooled, 6 speed. The Honda's were shaft drive instead of belt,... and surprisingly had hydraulic lifters. They were actually pretty impressive bikes. Styling aside. They'll probably hold up longer than Harley's air-cooled line-up. Enjoy your new ride... 8-) |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by MMRanch on 07/30/19 at 15:22:38 I see the Harley wins the 4,000 rpm punch ! Is that about 65 mph ? :-? |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by VortecCPI on 07/30/19 at 17:33:02 554755474A59565B50180 wrote:
Here is an engine speed versus bike speed chart I made. At 4,000 RPM 55 MPH in fifth gear and 62 MPH in sixth gear. This engine make good torque right across the board and right where I need and want it. The engine will pull fourth gear at 25-30 MPH with the close-ratio tranny and the overall gearing is pretty short. The engine sounds marvelous! Though it is a 60-degree instead pf 45-degree the rods still share the same crank journal so up until about 3,000-3,500 RPM it sounds like a small HD. After that and up to 9,000 RPM it sounds like few other bikes. The Street Rod has higher compression, better heads, better cams, and 2x42mm throttle bodies instead of just one 38mm. |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by VortecCPI on 07/30/19 at 17:43:14 Here is the associated dyno chart for HP. Pretty competitive for what it is. I did not buy it to compete with modern sport bikes because it will not. I bought it because it is odd and rare and unique and priced right. |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by MMRanch on 07/31/19 at 07:52:56 ............................................... I sat on one of them at the Harley shop and know they have a 500 version of the same thing. Really I had an Idea the 500 version might be a real fuel saver with ample power. Well , I'm to long legged to fit it , but it sure seemed like a good idea till the "seat-pegs spacing" didn't work out ! I think your going to like it , its good to have more than one bike ! :) |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by Dave on 07/31/19 at 08:03:57 06140614190A0508034B0 wrote:
It seems that 3 is a good number.......you need to get 1 more! ;) |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by VortecCPI on 07/31/19 at 08:27:26 594B594B46555A575C140 wrote:
OOPS! Thank you for pointing out the typo! |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by VortecCPI on 07/31/19 at 08:30:28 091B091B16050A070C440 wrote:
The Street 500 is completely different as it is the same as the Street 750 but with a smaller displacement. The Street Rod chassis and engine is quite a bit different. Street Rod has higher CR, better heads, better cams, and dual throttle bodies. Makes 8% more TQ and 18% more HP than standard Street 750. Dyno test comparison here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki_71Vxykwc Some more data here: https://www.hotbikeweb.com/harley-davidson-street-rod-vs-street#page-2 and here: https://news.maxabout.com/bike-comparisons/harley-davidson-street-750-vs-street-rod Street Rod also has USD forks, triple disk brakes, etc. The Street Rod is a bit odd and rare - Sort of like a Poor Man's XR1200. Close-up of front end below: |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by VortecCPI on 07/31/19 at 08:41:12 According to S&S an intake and exhaust change along with tuner results in a 10% increase in power. Puts this thing just about at 70 RWHP. Again it is not really competitive with 600cc sport bikes but who cares... |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by MMRanch on 08/01/19 at 10:05:58 Heck ! If it was all about " H P then we would all have Suzuki GSX-R's . ::) .............................. Smiles don't always come from the Race-Track . That 750 HD is plenty bike for anywhere you want to go . I don't like getting Speeding tickets and/or Reckless-Driving tickets and the insurance premiums that go with those tickets. Besides , 50HP will run 100 mph anytime ya want to. ::) |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by ohiomoto on 08/01/19 at 10:10:18 607260727F6C636E652D0 wrote:
But sometimes they do and you don't even need 50 hp to get them... http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/image_033.jpeg |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by engineer on 08/01/19 at 11:11:54 Vortec, congratulations and you'll have to keep us informed about the new bike. Many of us are interested in all bikes in general and I'm always interested in what they now call middle weight bikes. So, looking forward to reading about your experiences with the Harley. |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by zipidachimp on 08/02/19 at 01:48:09 I've always found the 'sweet spot' in bikes to be 500 to 750 cc. Never understood the appeal of 140mph on the street! cheers! 8-) |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by MMRanch on 08/02/19 at 07:49:35 I've always found the 'sweet spot' in bikes to be 500 to 750 cc. * 2 .................................... Or the need for 800# of machine to twist around ::) mine are 370# and 412# , |
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Title: Re: New Bike in the Garage Post by VortecCPI on 08/02/19 at 14:18:55 22202B2029202C36450 wrote:
It's a very fun bike to ride. It is a bit heavy at just over 500 pounds but it rides light. Steering is fast and responsive. Brakes are very good as are tires and suspension. Suspension is a bit stiff but at only 150 pounds just about all bikes feel stiff to me. Forks definitely need lesser spring rate for me, though I have not checked Race Sag yet... Just did - 14% F/R - Crazy stiff! The engine makes TQ from idle to top and is smooth with no real vibration. Tranny is six-speed close-ratio and overall gearing is short so ample power all the time. Engine sound is marvelous! The most fun part is nobody around here knows what it is... |
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