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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> When news services expose their true natures ..... /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1564505919 Message started by Oldfeller on 07/30/19 at 09:58:38 |
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Title: When news services expose their true natures ..... Post by Oldfeller on 07/30/19 at 09:58:38 https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/your-dead-5-deadliest-military-rifles-ever-fire-shot-70161 The young yuppie posers who work in this publication saw nothing wrong with the tagline or the photograph. This means the writer, the proof reader, the editor and the publicist ----- none of them has ever fired a gun in their lives. All they know is that guns shoot cartridges, right? http://https://nationalinterest.org/sites/default/files/styles/desktop__1260_/public/main_images/180919-F-JV039-005.JPG?itok=VikFJes8 Scroll over to the far right to see the projectile in stop motion And what is with the large laser device aimed straight at the front sight post? If they are that Totally Full of it, I can tell Android not to show items from National Interest in my news feed in the future. |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by norm92de on 07/30/19 at 10:19:33 Where on earth do they get this stuff. Laughable! |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by Serowbot on 07/30/19 at 10:25:20 It's a real photo... the shell is an eject. This fake-looking Air Force photo is real and totally amazing https://www.businessinsider.com/this-fake-looking-air-force-photo-is-real-and-totally-amazing-2018-10 |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by verslagen1 on 07/30/19 at 10:37:40 6472657860757863170 wrote:
Yup, right after it bounced off the photographers head. ;D |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by T And T Garage on 07/30/19 at 10:50:57 5B4D5A475F4A475C280 wrote:
Hmm - how about that? Good get Sero! |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by Serowbot on 07/30/19 at 11:15:02 3B283F3E212C2A28237C4D0 wrote:
Very possible... ;D |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by Oldfeller on 07/30/19 at 11:51:59 Ok, so still now --- what is with the rather large laser device aimed right at the front sight post? http://https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/discovery-channel-rifling-gif.gif Here is a debunk of the original picture. Liberal minded folks really do think guns shoot cartridges, really they do. But where are the rifling marking located on the cases I wonder. http://https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/courtesy-Evertown-for-Gun-Safety.jpg https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/air-force-m4-carbines-fire-empty-brass/ Of course, in this case it wasn’t the entire cartridge, but just an empty case. Which means it could potentially be a legitimate photo, right? An ejecting case caught on camera in just the “right” place? Ha! Come on! Get outta here. No freaking way. Why? Well . . . • No visible gas from bolt carrier or muzzle • Shooter’s finger is already off the trigger, which is certainly possible but awfully quick • Brass looks suspiciously clean • Brass has no apparent tempering discoloration, which is very obvious on nearly all 5.56 NATO. Even in photos where the brass is much blurrier than in this photo. • This M4 has to be over-gassed to eject a case at, what, like 1:00? • You’re telling me that case is flying, spinning, and flipping through space and crosses the plane of the barrel just as it happens to point directly down range precisely as the photo is taken? • I mean come on, seriously? And maybe he did photoshop it, realized later that what he did could land him in a world of trouble, and then made up the story that it was just a million to one lucky photo to keep him out of Leavenworth. Reply avatarTomC says: October 2, 2018 at 15:59 THAT seems actually more likely than the one in umpteen bazillion odds of the shot being real. The “proof” that he can display the same photo on the screen of his camera proves nothing more than that he knows how to load a memory card into the camera. Sorry, Airman, but I’m still not buying it. |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by raydawg on 07/30/19 at 12:27:41 Maybe he was shooting at those kids, that are drinking from toilets, while being savagely beaten, by the boarder patrol........????? :-/ |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by T And T Garage on 07/30/19 at 13:19:39 Some other M4 Carbine pics: http://images02.military.com/sites/default/files/media/equipment/weapons/m4-carbine/2014/02/m4-carbine-006.jpg http://images04.military.com/sites/default/files/media/equipment/weapons/m4-carbine/2014/02/m4-carbine-007.jpg http://images02.military.com/sites/default/files/media/equipment/weapons/m4-carbine/2014/02/m4-carbine-008.jpg *edited* I have it on good authority that the top piece is a PEQ laser (infrared and regular) and the tan piece is a flashlight on the bottom pic. On the OP, the PEQ is at the beige piece and the scope is obvious. Mystery solved. |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by Eegore on 07/30/19 at 14:16:12 The laser on the top rail is producing a beam around the front sight, it is a very common placement. It looks like the previous gen of the LA-5B/PEQ. |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by pg on 07/30/19 at 14:42:07 Back to the OP; regardless, how would the spent brass get ahead of the muzzle of the barrel? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by T And T Garage on 07/30/19 at 14:44:27 7760666A6575070 wrote:
Look at the second pic on my post. Look where that case is flying. It can, and more importantly, did happen that way. |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by Serowbot on 07/30/19 at 14:57:16 I've had a few go down my shirt... Never knew I could dance like that... ;D |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by pg on 07/30/19 at 15:01:50 3C222D2C213C273A480 wrote:
Look at the second pic on my post. Look where that case is flying. No argument on your pic; however, I call BS on the OP pic. Best regards, I can, and more importantly, did happen that way.[/quote] |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by verslagen1 on 07/30/19 at 15:13:19 From the 2nd pic, the firing position is echelon right. So I would assume the standard direction for many weapons is 1 to 3 o'clock. It's not nice to drop hot shells on your buddies. |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by Eegore on 07/30/19 at 16:00:55 "Back to the OP; regardless, how would the spent brass get ahead of the muzzle of the barrel?" This happens consistently with M-4s. I have posted here about the amount of ammunition I barrel and re-use at official ranges numbering in the hundreds of thousands. I have seen plenty of times shells eject slightly forward as well as bounce all over the place. My group will fire over 6000 rounds this month alone. This seems like an awful lot of work to photoshop an image for gun control advocates. The gallery is posted on DVIDS which is if I recall correctly overseen by CENTCOM, so not by any means an anti-gun or gun regulation media. What would be the advantage of photoshopping a shell casing in front of a barrel, and poorly angled for that matter? Why select this location? Why select a media that is under such tight scrutiny? Why would an Airman 1st Class, the photographer think that casings ejected from guns? |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by Eegore on 07/30/19 at 16:02:03 "Brass has no apparent tempering discoloration, which is very obvious on nearly all 5.56 NATO. Even in photos where the brass is much blurrier than in this photo." I'd be interested in seeing those. |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by pg on 07/30/19 at 17:01:50 19393B332E395C0 wrote:
I have little experience with the ar platform.... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by Oldfeller on 07/30/19 at 19:27:53 OK, so the laser and the flashlight portions are offset around the front sight, so that part at least makes sense now. The fired case would have had to go up high into the air, and then drop back down to be in line with the bore (properly oriented) for this shot to be a real "accident" but the lack of gas at the muzzle and at the action tends to make this dubious as well. The brownish discoloration at the case neck commonly seen is from annealing of the neck area at the manufacturing plant, not from firing. Firing "blueish purplish" discolorations like in the M-1 carbine happen from the use of a WHOLE LOT of hot fast powders, and this doesn't happen for very much in the M-4. However, some carbon discoloration of cases from chamber release blow by (in direct gas actuated guns) does happen. Still, quite the controversy for a simple picture of a guy shooting a M4 don't you think ???? I tend to vote photo shopped doctored, personally ...... |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by T And T Garage on 07/31/19 at 05:01:21 You can lead a horse to water...... |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by Serowbot on 07/31/19 at 08:43:02 Maybe, the publisher P-shopped to get publicity. Look how long we've been talking about it... ;D The everytown.org photo might be intentional too. They're intended audience may not be familiar with guns, and showing the full cartridge would be more recognizable to them. The Discovery Channel animation is truly unforgivable. I can't believe that one is real. Like showing a Saturn 5 rocket with all the stages still in tact orbiting the moon.... ;D |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by Eegore on 07/31/19 at 10:42:22 I think taking the effort to Photoshop this type of image and post it in the location it was is stranger than a photo being taken like this. Does this Airman really want an investigation? For instance this website has been around for decades and while it now includes staged images the majority for years was simply amazingly timed, accidental images. https://www.perfectlytimedphotos.com/ Why select this group of people, on Federal property and choose to supply an altered image on a CENTCOM overseen website when there are literally millions of other alternatives within this person's grasp? If this was posted in a higher traffic site, sent to other ones etc. then sure the motive would be suspect. Why would an Airman 1st Class think a casing ejects from a barrel? |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by MnSpring on 07/31/19 at 17:28:44 In 1874, Billy Dixon shot a .50-90 Sharp’s, at a distance of 1,538 Yards, 7/8 of a mile. And saved 28 people, from 300 (+/-) Comanche, Kiowa and Southern Cheyenne Indians. Because he killed a big chief. Carlos Hathcock, a sniper in Vietnam, his longest shot was 2,500 yards (1.42 miles). He also killed another sniper by shooting at a glint of light in the jungle foliage. When he approached the fallen enemy he noticed that the bullet had passed through the scope, and entered into the enemy sniper’s eye. Those have been replicated ! Doubt very much that a .223 case, from a AR type firearm, could at any point in it’s travels, end up exactly in front of the bore, without ANY opening, or part opening, or gas, coming from the port of the gun, with out any discoloration on the casing, or any flash or powder from the barrel. But hey, let the MythBusters do it LOLOLOLLOLOLOLO As far as the photo of a .223 Bullet, in it’s brass casing, going down the barrel. Very typical of the UL, FDS’s telling lies, to convince people to BAN GUNS. |
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Title: Re: When news services expose their true natures . Post by Serowbot on 07/31/19 at 18:20:46 60437E5D5F44434A2D0 wrote:
Do you really think that was a "lie"?... I would call it an incorrect visualization,... but not a lie. There was no intention to deceive. To what end?... I wouldn't say it's typical either. I think you've got a little UL, FDS, derangement syndrome going on. |
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