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Message started by pg on 07/28/19 at 12:08:20

Title: About time!!
Post by pg on 07/28/19 at 12:08:20

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-28/trump-may-declare-antifa-major-terror-organization

'Gutless Radical Left Wack Jobs'


Best regards,

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/29/19 at 16:32:33


6A7D7B7778681A0 wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-28/trump-may-declare-antifa-major-terror-organization

'Gutless Radical Left Wack Jobs'


Best regards,



Zero hedge -  ;D

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by pg on 07/29/19 at 17:16:45

Truth hurts, don't it.....

Best regards,

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/29/19 at 17:18:45


1106000C0313610 wrote:
Truth hurts, don't it.....

Best regards,



From zero hedge?  No - that's what you call - satire.

And bad satire at that.

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by pg on 07/29/19 at 17:23:12


322C23222F322934460 wrote:
[quote author=1106000C0313610 link=1564340900/0#2 date=1564445805]Truth hurts, don't it.....

Best regards,



From zero hedge?  No - that's what you call - satire.

And bad satire at that.[/quote]


CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/europe/germany-antifa-trump-twitter-scli-intl/index.html

Best regards,

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/29/19 at 17:27:31


4354525E5141330 wrote:
[quote author=322C23222F322934460 link=1564340900/0#3 date=1564445925][quote author=1106000C0313610 link=1564340900/0#2 date=1564445805]Truth hurts, don't it.....

Best regards,



From zero hedge?  No - that's what you call - satire.

And bad satire at that.[/quote]


CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/europe/germany-antifa-trump-twitter-scli-intl/index.html

Best regards,
[/quote]


Finally a more reputable news organization.

But I'm surprised your fingers didn't singe copying and pasting that.

LOL

What you have to remember, pro golfer, is that you can only trust in about 25% of what trump posts.  Ask your con buddies.

:D



Title: Re: About time!!
Post by pg on 07/30/19 at 08:50:39

How does it feel to know you will soon be supporting an official terrorist group??

Best regards,

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/30/19 at 09:06:22


2A3D3B3738285A0 wrote:
How does it feel to know you will soon be supporting an official terrorist group??

Best regards,


I have no feelings - you know why?

Because your genius of a president doesn't even know what ANTIFA is.

He listens to the likes of hannity and is as clueless as his followers.

Why don't they all get that ANTIFA is not an official organization?  Because they're dumb, that's why.

It's like trump declaring "biker dudes" a terror organization - or "white supremacists" a terror organization.

ANTIFA is an ideology - but you wouldn't know anything about that - because your right-wing gods tell you it's an organization.

He, and his followers are idiots and don't know a thing about ANTIFA and what it actually is.

But yeah, you keep pushing the narrative...LOL

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by pg on 07/30/19 at 09:35:14


312F20212C312A37450 wrote:
But yeah, you keep pushing the narrative...LOL


The POTUS is pushing it now!!

Best regards,

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/30/19 at 09:38:03


746365696676040 wrote:
[quote author=312F20212C312A37450 link=1564340900/0#7 date=1564502782]

But yeah, you keep pushing the narrative...LOL


The POTUS is pushing it now!!

Best regards,
[/quote]

Indeed he is.  Just goes to show what a moron he really is.

Hey, maybe next he'll force history teachers to teach about the Revolutionary War Airports, huh??   ;D ;D

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by MnSpring on 07/30/19 at 11:32:49


617F70717C617A67150 wrote:
"white supremacists" a terror organization.

Golly Gee Wally,
Seem to remember a person called tt,
alluding to, 'white supremacists being a terrorist organization'

What is that, 'H' word again ?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/30/19 at 11:48:44


5774496A6873747D1A0 wrote:
[quote author=617F70717C617A67150 link=1564340900/0#7 date=1564502782]
"white supremacists" a terror organization.

Golly Gee Wally,
Seem to remember a person called tt,
alluding to, 'white supremacists being a terrorist organization'

What is that, 'H' word again ?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL
[/quote]

First off, great "Leave It To Beaver" reference.  Way to stay "hip" - lol.
What are you like 70?

Second, mn - prove that I said that.

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by Eegore on 07/30/19 at 14:11:42

 ANTIFA isn't "An Organization".   I have asked multiple times here what website is the "official" ANTIFA one to go off of and where do they have their headquarters?

 No answers.

 There is literally an ANTIFA group that's been in my hometown since the 1940's.  Are they the new Terrorist Organization, or is it these idiots in masks?

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by pg on 07/30/19 at 14:38:01


69494B435E492C0 wrote:
 Are they the new Terrorist Organization, or is it these idiots in masks?


BOTH!

Best regards,

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/30/19 at 14:43:11


4D5A5C505F4F3D0 wrote:
[quote author=69494B435E492C0 link=1564340900/0#12 date=1564521102] Are they the new Terrorist Organization, or is it these idiots in masks?


BOTH!

Best regards,
[/quote]


Once again, pro golfer, you're wrong. (just like the idiot in chief)

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by pg on 07/30/19 at 14:58:32

So your position is if a group doesn't have a physical address they do not exist, is that correct?

Best regards,

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by Serowbot on 07/30/19 at 15:34:04


Quote:
The Anti-Defamation League, a leading Jewish group in the United States focused on hate crimes, describes Antifa as "a loose collection of groups, networks and individuals who believe in active, aggressive opposition to far right-wing movements."


So an anti-terrorist group should be labeled a terrorist group...
...and Elijah Cummings is a racist...

It's just so MAGA...  ;D

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by Eegore on 07/30/19 at 16:12:28

Are they the new Terrorist Organization, or is it these idiots in masks?

BOTH!


 That's an interesting approach.  These old Jewish families that have had ANTIFA meetings since the 40's are now terrorists by that logic.

 They are the same as the masked people committing violence because they are an ANTIFA group, I can't wait to see the news media report on the FBI arresting law abiding families at a bake sale.


"So your position is if a group doesn't have a physical address they do not exist, is that correct?"

 Incorrect.  I never said, inferred, suggested or otherwise indicated that ANTIFA does not exist.  Again, ANTIFA exists, they are real.

 I said I asked about a specific incident where a claim was "ANTIFA said etc." on the "ANTIFA website" and wondered how they found a source that speaks for all ANTIFA.  Where is the "official" ANTIFA website?

 I am only asking specifically what website is the official one.  I am not claiming existence or lack of.  I am only asking what website is the official ANTIFA website.


Title: Re: About time!!
Post by pg on 07/30/19 at 17:05:37


1E3E3C34293E5B0 wrote:
Are they the new Terrorist Organization, or is it these idiots in masks?

BOTH!


 That's an interesting approach.  These old Jewish families that have had ANTIFA meetings since the 40's are now terrorists by that logic.

 They are the same as the masked people committing violence because they are an ANTIFA group, I can't wait to see the news media report on the FBI arresting law abiding families at a bake sale.


"So your position is if a group doesn't have a physical address they do not exist, is that correct?"

 Incorrect.  I never said, inferred, suggested or otherwise indicated that ANTIFA does not exist.  Again, ANTIFA exists, they are real.

 I said I asked about a specific incident where a claim was "ANTIFA said etc." on the "ANTIFA website" and wondered how they found a source that speaks for all ANTIFA.  Where is the "official" ANTIFA website?

 I am only asking specifically what website is the official one.  I am not claiming existence or lack of.  I am only asking what website is the official ANTIFA website.



I have seen local or regional sites; although, I have not seen an all inclusive site.

Best regards,

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by Eegore on 07/31/19 at 10:47:42


"I have seen local or regional sites; although, I have not seen an all inclusive site."

 I have as well.  I couldn't consider any of them capable of speaking nationally.

 So about this old Jewish ANTIFA group, are they terrorists now?

 Are they part of a terrorist organization?

 Should they be incarcerated for having ANTIFA on their bake-sale signs?

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by pg on 07/31/19 at 12:29:46


4464666E7364010 wrote:
"I have seen local or regional sites; although, I have not seen an all inclusive site."

 I have as well.  I couldn't consider any of them capable of speaking nationally.

 So about this old Jewish ANTIFA group, are they terrorists now?


 Are they part of a terrorist organization?

 Should they be incarcerated for having ANTIFA on their bake-sale signs?



They are likely affiliated with them in some capacity.  The amount of scrutiny they receive should be based on their involvement with criminal activity.

Best regards,

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/31/19 at 12:59:11


7C6B6D616E7E0C0 wrote:
[quote author=4464666E7364010 link=1564340900/15#19 date=1564595262]
"I have seen local or regional sites; although, I have not seen an all inclusive site."

 I have as well.  I couldn't consider any of them capable of speaking nationally.

 So about this old Jewish ANTIFA group, are they terrorists now?


 Are they part of a terrorist organization?

 Should they be incarcerated for having ANTIFA on their bake-sale signs?



They are likely affiliated with them in some capacity.  The amount of scrutiny they receive should be based on their involvement with criminal activity.

Best regards,[/quote]


"The amount of scrutiny they receive should be based on their involvement with criminal activity." - is a phrase you can use about anyone, anywhere, anytime.    :D

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by MnSpring on 07/31/19 at 13:23:50


263837363B263D20520 wrote:
"The amount of scrutiny they receive should be based on their involvement with criminal activity." - is a phrase you can use about anyone, anywhere, anytime.

Does that include people that Support, Love and defend DSA, CY, BS, AOC, BLM, Antifa etc. ?

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by Eegore on 07/31/19 at 16:06:22


"They are likely affiliated with them in some capacity.  The amount of scrutiny they receive should be based on their involvement with criminal activity."

 I am not sure how you come to the conclusion that an ANTIFA group in Colorado started in the 40's by Jews is somehow affiliated with Millennials committing crimes in San Francisco.

 In any case isn't designating them a terrorist organization for having a name 70 years prior to the one's committing crime seem unusual?

 It seems to me that if one day FORD becomes a group that attacks individuals on the street it would make little sense to consider and designate Ford Motor Company a terrorist organization, (since they share the name they must be involved), and have them prove themselves innocent instead of the government proving them guilty.

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by pg on 07/31/19 at 16:37:12


78585A524F583D0 wrote:
"They are likely affiliated with them in some capacity.  The amount of scrutiny they receive should be based on their involvement with criminal activity."

 I am not sure how you come to the conclusion that an ANTIFA group in Colorado started in the 40's by Jews is somehow affiliated with Millennials committing crimes in San Francisco.

 In any case isn't designating them a terrorist organization for having a name 70 years prior to the one's committing crime seem unusual?

 It seems to me that if one day FORD becomes a group that attacks individuals on the street it would make little sense to consider and designate Ford Motor Company a terrorist organization, (since they share the name they must be involved), and have them prove themselves innocent instead of the government proving them guilty.



Reread my statement.....  

"They are likely affiliated with them in some capacity.  The amount of scrutiny they receive should be based on their involvement with criminal activity."

Best regards,

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by Eegore on 07/31/19 at 16:49:35

"They are likely affiliated with them in some capacity.  The amount of scrutiny they receive should be based on their involvement with criminal activity"

 "They" = 1940's Jewish ANTIFA group.

 "are likely" = have a high percentage chance, are most or more than likely than less or not likely.

 "affiliated" = officially attached or connected to an organization, officially being the operative word.  A direct nexus of communication, or influence by direct communication.

 "with them" = modern ANTIFA groups considered for terrorist designation due to criminal activity.

 "in some capacity" = a verifiable, measurable degree of interaction.

 The group of Jews that started an ANTIFA meeting in the 1940s have a high probability of having a direct nexus of communication that quantifies the term "Officially attached" to a modern group of criminals that have recently claimed the term ANTIFA.

 A designation of Terrorist Organization will then classify them guilty of terrorism until scrutinized by authorities to conclude what level, if any, of crime they are associated with.

 

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by pg on 07/31/19 at 17:20:16


7656545C4156330 wrote:
"They are likely affiliated with them in some capacity.  The amount of scrutiny they receive should be based on their involvement with criminal activity"

 "They" = 1940's Jewish ANTIFA group.

 "are likely" = have a high percentage chance, are most or more than likely than less or not likely.

 "affiliated" = officially attached or connected to an organization, officially being the operative word.  A direct nexus of communication, or influence by direct communication.

 "with them" = modern ANTIFA groups considered for terrorist designation due to criminal activity.

 "in some capacity" = a verifiable, measurable degree of interaction.

 The group of Jews that started an ANTIFA meeting in the 1940s have a high probability of having a direct nexus of communication that quantifies the term "Officially attached" to a modern group of criminals that have recently claimed the term ANTIFA.

 A designation of Terrorist Organization will then classify them guilty of terrorism until scrutinized by authorities to conclude what level, if any, of crime they are associated with.



You are making a valiant effort to put words in my mouth.  

Best regards,

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by Eegore on 07/31/19 at 18:03:16

"You are making a valiant effort to put words in my mouth."

 I am clarifying how I read your statement.  I am not claiming you stated verbatim what I posted as my interpretation of your sentence.  You did not type anything more than what I quote.  Repeating it doesn't increase accuracy.

 As I understand it you are saying it is likely that a group called ANTIFA originating in the 1940's is affiliated with modern ANTIFA groups committing crimes and as such should be classified a Terrorist Organization until they are scrutinized and cleared of criminal wrongdoing.  

 I asked:

"Are they the new Terrorist Organization, or is it these idiots in masks?"

 You stated:

"BOTH!"

 So this Jewish ANTIFA group is both a Terrorist organization and idiots in masks.  That seems odd to me because this group originated 70 years prior.

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by verslagen1 on 08/01/19 at 07:34:42


5171737B6671140 wrote:
"You are making a valiant effort to put words in my mouth."

 I am clarifying how I read your statement.  I am not claiming you stated verbatim what I posted as my interpretation of your sentence.  You did not type anything more than what I quote.  Repeating it doesn't increase accuracy.

 As I understand it you are saying it is likely that a group called ANTIFA originating in the 1940's is affiliated with modern ANTIFA groups committing crimes and as such should be classified a Terrorist Organization until they are scrutinized and cleared of criminal wrongdoing.  

 I asked:

"Are they the new Terrorist Organization, or is it these idiots in masks?"

 You stated:

"BOTH!"

 So this Jewish ANTIFA group is both a Terrorist organization and idiots in masks.  That seems odd to me because this group originated 70 years prior.

The question would have to be, does your group wear masks and/or commit violent acts?

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by Eegore on 08/02/19 at 10:49:01


"The question would have to be, does your group wear masks and/or commit violent acts?"

 They don't.  I agree with that assessment however pg indicated "BOTH" groups should be considered a Terrorist Organization.  

 To me the problem is once that happens the non-criminal group is guilty unless they can prove innocence, are subjected to SAM legal structure and can be detained without being evaluated for criminal activity first.

 

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by Serowbot on 08/02/19 at 12:02:16

..and why are we so worried about Antifa?...

106 individuals were killed by far-right violent extremists in 62 separate incidents;

119 individuals were killed by radical Islamist violent extremists in 23 separate incidents;

Title: Re: About time!!
Post by verslagen1 on 08/02/19 at 12:19:47


7151535B4651340 wrote:
"The question would have to be, does your group wear masks and/or commit violent acts?"

 They don't.  I agree with that assessment however pg indicated "BOTH" groups should be considered a Terrorist Organization.  

 To me the problem is once that happens the non-criminal group is guilty unless they can prove innocence, are subjected to SAM legal structure and can be detained without being evaluated for criminal activity first.

 


Same as anyone of us if we happen to be in Waco when the 2 m/c gangs were taken down.
LEO's will simply shoot us all and let god sort us out.

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