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Title: Get some popcorn! Post by pg on 07/22/19 at 04:56:16 Conservative Army veteran Joe Biggs says he has “had enough of these masked Commie bastards attacking civilians” and will be hosting an anti-Antifa protest in Portland, where a journalist was recently attacked by the far-left radicals. Biggs will be hosting the event with the Proud Boys and says that Three Percenters, Oathkeepers, Patriot Prayer, American Guard and other veterans and current military members will also be present to help keep the peace. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/joe-biggs-has-had-enough-of-these-masked-commie-bastards-attacking-civilians-will-host-anti-antifa-protest-in-portland/ Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by Serowbot on 07/22/19 at 07:56:45 It's a Nazi hootenanny!... |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by Eegore on 07/22/19 at 10:51:36 This guy is the genius that thinks he can convince people that one day the government has such an outstanding reach of power that anyone can be executed at a moment's notice without repercussion and then also give an at length interview about a supposedly extremely classified "Jade helm" operation. Which is it? The government will execute you and your family for speaking out of turn, or you can give public interviews disclosing detailed classified material? In any case if the local public service isn't protecting citizens then it is up to the citizens to step up. Antifa in Portland do need to be dealt with, so if he can pull this off good for him. But I do expect some conspiracy to arise from it. |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by T And T Garage on 07/22/19 at 11:31:50 382F29252A3A480 wrote:
Ahh, joe biggs - from infowars. 'Nuff said. ;D |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by pg on 07/22/19 at 12:09:11 4C525D5C514C574A380 wrote:
Ahh, joe biggs - from infowars. 'Nuff said. ;D[/quote] That will be entertaining to watch antifa try to 'intimiadate' that crowd. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by T And T Garage on 07/22/19 at 12:36:31 2E393F333C2C5E0 wrote:
Ahh, joe biggs - from infowars. 'Nuff said. ;D[/quote] That will be entertaining to watch antifa try to 'intimiadate' that crowd. Best regards, [/quote] No, I don't think it'll be entertaining at all. I think that the likes of the proud boys and the other hitler youth won't even show up. Thankfully, it'll be anticlimactic. |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by pg on 07/22/19 at 13:06:15 Do you notice the antifa garbage only harass weak or individual targets? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by T And T Garage on 07/22/19 at 13:40:35 7C6B6D616E7E0C0 wrote:
No. in fact, I see the violent offenders that claim allegiance to antifa to be looking for a fight wherever. Like they did the last time the proud boys were out. Antifa is not about violence. Not sure why you can't understand that. Maybe I should start equating the proud boys with all republicans - you know, to be fair. |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by pg on 07/22/19 at 14:25:01 312F20212C312A37450 wrote:
No. in fact, I see the violent offenders that claim allegiance to antifa to be looking for a fight wherever. Like they did the last time the proud boys were out. Antifa is not about violence. Not sure why you can't understand that. Maybe I should start equating the proud boys with all republicans - you know, to be fair.[/quote] I don't support the proud boys and I am not a republican. I don't support groups that harass and intimidate people. I find Antifa reprehensible for the reasons previously stated. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by T And T Garage on 07/22/19 at 15:02:53 554244484757250 wrote:
No. in fact, I see the violent offenders that claim allegiance to antifa to be looking for a fight wherever. Like they did the last time the proud boys were out. Antifa is not about violence. Not sure why you can't understand that. Maybe I should start equating the proud boys with all republicans - you know, to be fair.[/quote] I don't support the proud boys and I am not a republican. LOL - could've fooled me... I don't support groups that harass and intimidate people. I find Antifa reprehensible for the reasons previously stated. Well, then I guess it's a good thing that antifa is an ideal, not a fixed group of people. Think "motorcyclists" instead of "The Outlaws". Being a "motorcyclist" is a state of mind. Being an "Outlaw" put you in a 1% club. Get it? Best regards,[/quote] |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by pg on 07/22/19 at 17:17:49 332D22232E332835470 wrote:
No. in fact, I see the violent offenders that claim allegiance to antifa to be looking for a fight wherever. Like they did the last time the proud boys were out. Antifa is not about violence. Not sure why you can't understand that. Maybe I should start equating the proud boys with all republicans - you know, to be fair.[/quote] I don't support the proud boys and I am not a republican. LOL - could've fooled me... Evidently, not that terribly difficult. I don't support groups that harass and intimidate people. I find Antifa reprehensible for the reasons previously stated. Well, then I guess it's a good thing that antifa is an ideal, not a fixed group of people. Think "motorcyclists" instead of "The Outlaws". Being a "motorcyclist" is a state of mind. Being an "Outlaw" put you in a 1% club. Get it? Best regards,[/quote] [/quote] That is total BS, it is much more than an ideal. It wasn't an ideal that split the guys head open was it? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by Eegore on 07/22/19 at 18:10:38 Ideals can lead to violence. Like religion, or Unions, or just about any idea. So is Antifa only modern groups committing violence? There is a Antifa group that's been in my hometown since WW II. |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by T And T Garage on 07/23/19 at 05:30:39 5A4D4B4748582A0 wrote:
Sorry if you don't like the truth, pro golfer. But as I keep saying - the truth doesn't care whether or not you believe it or not. It's the truth. |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by pg on 07/23/19 at 16:41:47 634341495443260 wrote:
No, they do it a great deal more than any other group of late. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by Serowbot on 07/23/19 at 17:03:49 276 Right -Wing terrorist groups,... bigger threat than Jihadists. 4E584F524A5F52493D0 wrote:
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by pg on 07/23/19 at 17:35:44 7C6A7D60786D607B0F0 wrote:
[/quote] That's crap, they have a classification for everyone except a white guy who has a cup of coffee with another white guy. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by T And T Garage on 07/24/19 at 08:17:42 6077717D7262100 wrote:
[/quote] That's crap, they have a classification for everyone except a white guy who has a cup of coffee with another white guy. Best regards,[/quote] No, it's not crap - it's the truth. Here's even more evidence: FBI Director: White-Supremacist Violence Accounts for Majority of Domestic-Terrorism Arrests Since Last October FBI director Christopher Wray told Congress on Tuesday that the majority of domestic-terrorism arrests since last October have been linked to white supremacy. “I will say that a majority of the domestic-terrorism cases that we’ve investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white-supremacist violence, but it does include other things as well,” the FBI chief said in testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee. Wray explained that since October, the FBI has arrested about 100 people on international-terrorism charges and about the same number of individuals on charges related to domestic extremism. The FBI director emphasized that his investigators’ “focus is on the violence.” “We the FBI don’t investigate the ideology, no matter how repugnant. We investigate violence. And any extremist ideology, when it turns to violence, we’re all over it,” Wray said. “We take domestic terrorism or hate crime – regardless of ideology – extremely seriously, I can assure you, and we are aggressively pursuing it using both counterterrorism resources and criminal investigative resources and partnering closely with our state and local partners.” President Trump has repeatedly come under fire for using rhetoric that his opponents say encourages violent, racist tendencies. Critics have warned that violence resulting from white-supremacist ideologies has been on the rise since Trump took office. http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-director-white-supremacist-violence-184720630.html So, like I keep saying - just because you don't like the facts, doesn't mean they aren't facts. |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by Eegore on 07/24/19 at 11:17:39 "FBI director Christopher Wray told Congress on Tuesday that the majority of domestic-terrorism arrests since last October have been linked to white supremacy." This is true. I've linked the FBI database multiple times on here, but since the numbers do not convey the same observed reality some people have all those numbers will be ignored, or claimed to be false. |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by raydawg on 07/24/19 at 13:36:47 5D7D7F776A7D180 wrote:
Here is a very interesting view on murder (which encompasses and shares the same resulting) You’ve heard it before. It is the most frequent response to any accusation of police brutality. It is the repeated sleight of hand used to distract and drown out the voices of Black Lives Matter. It is an oft-used “alt-right” refrain and a sincere query from curious white questioners. It is the weapon of choice for the black practitioners of respectability politics and the favorite follow-up for people who frame their arguments with the preamble, “Not all white people ... ” Why don’t black people ever talk about black-on-black crime? Instead of rejecting the entire notion as a method of deflection and privilege, we will attempt to formally dismiss the conversation forever by laying out the facts about why white America never hears us talk about black-on-black crime. It’s not a thing. According to the FBI’s uniform crime-reporting data for 2016, 90.1 percent of black victims of homicide were killed by other blacks, while 83.5 percent of whites were killed by other whites. While no life is inconsequential, the statistical evidence shows that—just as for blacks when it comes to black-on-black crime—whites are mostly victimized by other whites, with the vast majority of white murders committed by whites. This is because most victims of crime personally know their assailants. And while this is a truth across racial boundaries, no one ever talks about “white-on-white crime.” Furthermore, the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ arrest data analysis tool shows that less than 1 percent of blacks overall (about 2 percent of black men) commit a violent crime in any given year. This means, factoring in interracial violent offenses, 99 percent of black men do not commit black-on-black crime. It has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Imagine the head of Homeland Security walking up to the microphone to hold a press conference after a horrific terrorist attack, but when reporters start asking him about stopping terrorism and catching the culprits, he begins talking about texting and driving. Sounds stupid, right? But distracted driving kills more Americans each year than terrorism (and black-on-black crime), according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, so, according to the advocates of conversations about black-on-black crime, we should be discussing this first. It is true that the vast majority of black murders are committed by black men, and we should do something to combat that statistic (we will get to that later, I promise), but that fact has nothing to do with state violence. When anyone interrupts a discussion about Black Lives Matter by bringing up black-on-black crime, it sounds as stupid as if a doctor addressed a cancerous brain tumor by asking about domestic violence, or if America’s highest-ranking government official addressed white supremacist Nazi-palooza by talking about the so-called alt-left and the “very fine” tiki-torch carriers. No one would ever be that stupid. We actually do talk about it ... all the time. It is perfectly understandable why white America assumes that black people don’t talk about black-on-black crime. However, the reason they make this assumption dates to a quote found in recently uncovered papers from an unnamed woman archaeological and historical researchers refer to as “Grandmama”: “It ain’t none of their darn business.” The reality is, in neighborhoods and cities across America, there are countless organizations, activists and movements dedicated to curbing violence in black communities. The number of “Stop the Violence” marches dwarfs the demonstrations against police brutality. Unity rallies and peace picnics happen every day. Scared Straight programs for at-risk youths, gang counseling, neighborhood watches, intervention specialists, youth counselors, and too many other people and groups to name all lead the charge against crime and violence. But those efforts don’t make the evening news because they aren’t as salacious as people blocking traffic and protesting; nor do they serve the preconceived white confirmation bias. Besides, there’s no way white people would know about this unless they stopped deflecting with trite questions and instead actually went into a minority neighborhood to selflessly join the effort to address the problems plaguing ... OK, you can stop laughing now. OK, let’s talk about black-on-black crime. Both sociologists and criminologists agree that violent crime is a complex socioeconomic phenomenon. Generally speaking, research shows that poor people commit the most crime: According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, during the period from 2008 through 2012, “persons in poor households at or below the federal poverty level (FPL) (39.8 per 1,000) had more than double the rate of violent victimization as persons in high-income households (16.9 per 1,000) ... The overall pattern of poor persons having the highest rates of violent victimization was consistent for both whites and blacks.” Knowing this, the small difference in crime rates can easily be explained by income disparity. Maybe the question should be why are such a large percentage of black people poor? As a matter of fact, if we are going to derail a conversation about black lives to talk about black-on-black crime, there are a few other questions we should answer first: Why is the rate of violence actually higher among poor, urban whites? Why don’t we ever discuss the economic impact of redlining and segregation on rates of violence? If we are going to discuss the number of black people killed by blacks, should we discuss the number of white people murdered, raped and assaulted by fellow whites? Will this conversation include a debate about how blacks are arrested, incarcerated and sentenced for longer periods than whites for committing the same crimes? Are you willing to detour into a brief explanation of why schools with large percentages of blacks are underfunded even though they have the same tax base and incomes? Do you have time to talk about the wage gap? Unemployment disparities? All of these factors contribute to crime rates. So if you want to have a conversation about black-on-black crime, you should be careful, because, like most conversations about race, it will end up back in the same place: White supremacy. *A previous version of this article said that most murders were committed by whites. The FBI statistic referred to by that claim is only true in homicides by a single victim and a single offender. Link: https://www.theroot.com/why-we-never-talk-about-black-on-black-crime-an-answer-1819092337 |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by Eegore on 07/24/19 at 13:57:55 "Here is a very interesting view on murder (which encompasses and shares the same resulting) " This is confusing Domestic Violence with Domestic Terrorism. The FBI documentation discussed here is regarding "Domestic Terrorism": "the majority of domestic-terrorism arrests" The article presented by Raydawg references numbers of documented homicide rates, not domestic terrorism arrests. Domestic terrorism does not require homicide to be a documented arrest and is typically not conducted by those one already knows. The fundamental difference being that the FBI classifies these things differently, while some overlap most do not. A .034% overlap from 2015 to 2016. Black on Black crime can be related to "White Supremacy" but not by direct claimed association such as a White Supremacy Group claiming influence over or direct ordering of an assault on a minority citizen. Domestic terrorism definition utilizes a direct nexus of association of offender to victim. |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by verslagen1 on 07/24/19 at 14:19:17 Eegore, that's true ray's article doesn't talk about domestic terrorism, but the basis of why is there. There are more domestic terrorism because there are more residents here. Same as there are more white murder here because there are more whites. |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by pg on 07/24/19 at 15:44:10 FBI director Christopher Wray told Congress on Tuesday that the majority of domestic-terrorism arrests since last October have been linked to white supremacy. Quantify majority, define linked, and provide a list.... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Get some popcorn! Post by raydawg on 07/24/19 at 15:49:54 3D2E3938272A2C2E257A4B0 wrote:
That is how I read it too Versy..... And given the scope of the article, of "comparing' killings for whatever reason, the end result is death. To politicize it does not change that fact, as the author reports more die at the hands from those texting while driving....than of terrorist. The funny thing about numbers, you can make then say whatever you want, need, depending on how you formulate it.... That however does not prove theory, and I will use the ICE AGE to debunk the present man made Global Warning.....as PROOF man is not the root cause of it...... The Flintstones used foot powered vehicles, not carbon ;D |
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