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Message started by Tacopimp on 07/17/19 at 13:17:45

Title: Rear shock/strut question
Post by Tacopimp on 07/17/19 at 13:17:45

I am trying to find online the size of the mounting holes of our shocks so I can replace them with rigid struts. I have come to 3 different answers looking online and was hoping to get some clarification. I have a 2000 Savage if that makes any difference.

Thanks!

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by verslagen1 on 07/17/19 at 14:16:25

The posts are 14mm

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 07/17/19 at 14:39:18

What’s a rigid strut?

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by Tacopimp on 07/17/19 at 15:02:31


243720213E3335373C63520 wrote:
The posts are 14mm


Thanks so much!



72787C767D747079272125150 wrote:
What’s a rigid strut?


No shocks, it's just a solid piece of metal, so they make your bike a hardtail. You should have a springer seat with a setup like this.  Hope that answers your question.

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by Dave on 07/17/19 at 16:05:15


32383C363D343039676165550 wrote:
What’s a rigid strut?


Something that causes back pain and fatigue.

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by BrokeAss on 07/17/19 at 18:08:40


0B303D2A3B372C2A3139342B580 wrote:
[quote author=32383C363D343039676165550 link=1563394665/0#2 date=1563399558]What’s a rigid strut?


Something that causes back pain and fatigue.[/quote]

And terrifying bump-steer, especially in corners...

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by batman on 07/18/19 at 04:52:05

Bump-steer - when you hit a bump or pothole in a curve ,the rear tire leaves the pavement ,but comes down in a different track ,somewhere to one side , changing the course the bike takes , the effect has been known to cause a change in underclothes.

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 07/18/19 at 08:48:49

I thought that the OEM shocks were already rigid.

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by norm92de on 07/18/19 at 11:41:39

Very good Gary. ;D

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by ohiomoto on 07/19/19 at 05:42:38


63696D676C656168363034040 wrote:
I thought that the OEM shocks were already rigid.
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They are but they don't provide any bump steer.

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by Dave on 07/19/19 at 05:51:00


797E7F797B796279160 wrote:
[quote author=63696D676C656168363034040 link=1563394665/0#7 date=1563464929]I thought that the OEM shocks were already rigid.
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They are but they don't provide any bump steer.
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I have shocks and I don't get bump steer - but sometimes I do get "bump wobble"! :-?

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by ohiomoto on 07/19/19 at 05:56:34

SLOW DOWN!!  haha

I get a little "flex" in a corner if it has a depression in it. I'm thinking the frame and swingarm on this thing isn't all that stiff.  But I really don't do high-speed stuff on this thing.  I'll push it a little bit on slow corners.

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by ohiomoto on 07/19/19 at 06:03:20

Also, I lowered my forks but kept the stock shocks.  You lifted your back end up a bit.  (Of his bike people, the back end of his bike!)

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by Tacopimp on 07/25/19 at 05:37:26

So, 14mm didn't fit. I actually had them at 14.5mm and they only make it over the threaded part of the stem. Anyone know the size of the rest of the stem where I need to get the strut over?

Thanks!

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 07/25/19 at 06:09:31

They are 14mm. Always have been. Is there a sleeve or bushing inserted on the shock mount or in the shock itself?

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by Tacopimp on 07/25/19 at 06:58:24

Sorry, I'm an idiot. Lol. There was some piece that I didn't get off the stem. I feel stupid.

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by batman on 07/25/19 at 08:18:43

You're smart enough to come here and ask for help , that's not stupid! there are no stupid questions ! we've all made mistakes. Don't beat yourself up.

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by ohiomoto on 07/25/19 at 09:30:23

Right on batman, but some questions are better than others!  


7973777D767F7B722C2A2E1E0 wrote:
... Is there a sleeve or bushing inserted on the shock mount or in the shock itself?
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72474549564F4B56260 wrote:
Sorry, I'm an idiot. Lol. There was some piece that I didn't get off the stem. I feel stupid.
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Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner.   ;D

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by Tacopimp on 07/25/19 at 15:32:53

On some other posts/topics I read that people used 1" steel rods to make their struts. The stem for the struts seem to be just a little bit smaller than 1". This means the the strut would hang over into where the threads are just a tiny bit. Is this ok? Should I use some locktite to keep the nuts from vibrating off?

Title: Re: Rear shock/strut question
Post by batman on 07/25/19 at 17:26:15

I'd file/grind the over hanging area flat and use a lock washer ,locktite and nut ( a fiber locking nut if you can find them - the type on your rear axle)
 the coolest struts I've seen where fashioned from two crowbars (pry bars?) the round ends facing down  , bolted to the bottom shock mounts.

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