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Title: As predicted... Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/19 at 15:01:44 As I predicted, Biden's dropping. Harris and Warren are rising as is Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. I think that's exactly what I said. Believe I also said Sanders is toast and by the next polls, he'll be on the outside looking in. My next prediction is Biden will put up a fight but it's nothing more than the last gasp of a dying campaign. My money is still on Harris but Warren is hanging around as is that gay dude whose name I can never remember. The Alfred E Newman lookalike. Not sure when the next "debate" is but will be interesting to see if they dial back their promises to give anything to anybody for a vote. Might still be early for that. My dark horse is Amy Klobuchar. If she can hang around, she'll pick up Biden's somewhat sensible moderate supporters. Honestly if at the last debate she would have turn on her communist colleagues and said "WTF are ypu talking about. We're not giving healthcare to illegals! That's nuts!" She could have turned into a Democratic version of Donald Trump. But she didn't have the courage. Its her only chance. I need to educate myself on her a bit more. She was an awful b!tch at the Kavanaugh hearings and you could tell he was particularly hurt by her betrayal. |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by Serowbot on 07/15/19 at 15:17:33 This guy?... ;D Pete Buttigieg I'll vote for moldy cheese over Trump,.. so will 52% of voters. http://https://pics.me.me/thumb_harvard-grad-cant-spell-rhodes-scholarhamburger-at-oxford-war-veteran-48380250.png |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 15:47:34 5244534E56434E55210 wrote:
Amen Sero! |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/19 at 15:53:55 Don't bet on it.... or do. He won't be around at the end anyway so it's a moot point. |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 16:00:22 546661707766714E627168030 wrote:
Trump - yeah, probably not! :D |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by raydawg on 07/15/19 at 16:29:40 Web....I still think Warren can make a name for herself IF..... she takes risk and goes om FOX, etc. I have heard her speak, and she comes across nothing like the "sound bites" you often see deployed in the media who only report things for ratings. She has some good ideas, and if you have noticed, she is smart enough to stay out of all the drama. |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/19 at 17:08:14 But again, this is the Democratic Party. Identify matters. Harris has color on her side. Alfred Newman has the queer thing going. Pardon the pun but all things being within 20% of equal, those things Trumps Warren's white skin. |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by WebsterMark on 07/16/19 at 05:06:57 No one's gonna mistake Trump for Steven Hawkins but his strategy below is brilliant. I know exactly what he's doing. Do you? The Democrat Congresswomen have been spewing some of the most vile, hateful, and disgusting things ever said by a politician in the House or Senate, & yet they get a free pass and a big embrace from the Democrat Party. Horrible anti-Israel, anti-USA, pro-terrorist & public..... .....shouting of the F...word, among many other terrible things, and the petrified Dems run for the hills. Why isn’t the House voting to rebuke the filthy and hate laced things they have said? Because they are the Radical Left, and the Democrats are afraid to take them on. Sad! |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by raydawg on 07/16/19 at 07:54:03 Web.... Trump is TRUMP, the same TV personality, personal, having moved into the White house. He is using the same techniques that he employed on some of these shows to get the results he desired, a ends justifies the means. It strange, he is turning the tables on hate, animosity, hostility, loathing, and pain...... By using antagonism Which in effect, is using hate, to fight hate.... antagonism noun an·[ch8203]tag·[ch8203]o·[ch8203]nism | \ an-[ch712]ta-g[ch601]-[ch716]ni-z[ch601]m \ Definition of antagonism 1a : opposition of a conflicting force, tendency, or principle the antagonism of democracy to dictatorship b : actively expressed opposition or hostility antagonism between factions personal antagonism 2 : opposition in physiological action especially : interaction of two or more substances such that the action of any one of them on living cells or tissues is lessened In a game of poker, those revealing their own weakness by such taunting, jeering, etc, giving the opposition a read the possibilities of the strength of your cards.... They go broke quickly. I am not sure the American people really need this. We have heard for decades the need of another party, but the stranglehold the system held dwarfed any power they might generate to get their foot in the door, starting with Ross Perot..... Why Web? I think folks who decide elections have been feeling disenfranchised for a long time, I know I count myself in that group. You had Hillary lose, and a Bush, to Trump..... Two of the most powerful political machines in recent times....WHY? Answer that riddle, and I think you will find the real mood of a vast number of voters. I stated from the get go..... it's not Trump, no, but a anti vote against the system that only the entrenched have access to. Think about that Web, it explains the move toward "socialism" by many disfranchised as well.....only its been pitched, and played, from many different angles, the one commonality they share is the desired effect of less governing power by those forces who enjoy and use that power to maintain their power..... Yes, I know a real socialist goverment centralizes that power....and those who believe this holds a cure are merely just misinformed in historically happenstance from embracing such ideology..... But I am not talking about that Web, I am talking about their anger, and disenfranchisement, at the system that gave us another Clinton and Bush..... Do you understand me? Trump will be dumped in a heartbeat if another person who understand this and can bring that message to the same folk who understand what make america great again really means..... a BIGGER umbrella that more folk can gather under, and enjoy those freedoms and opportunities to succeed on their OWN POWER without interference and beholden to a elitist centralized goverment..... |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 08:16:39 576562737465724D61726B000 wrote:
Not sure what "strategy" you think trump is using mark, but one thing's for sure - he's digging a hole so deep, he'll never crawl out. |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by WebsterMark on 07/16/19 at 08:45:20 We have heard for decades the need of another party, but the stranglehold the system held dwarfed any power they might generate to get their foot in the door, starting with Ross Perot..... Ray; Trump was essentially a third party candidate. The Republican Party did not want him, but they were forced by the demands of their voters to accept him. |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by WebsterMark on 07/16/19 at 08:56:39 Not sure what "strategy" you think trump is using mark, but one thing's for sure - he's digging a hole so deep, he'll never crawl out. How many times did we hear that during the 2016 Republican nomination fight? Remember, he was finished over and over because of something he said, but it never happened. Remember the Megan Kelly comment about it coming out of her ears? Remember what he said about that one woman who was running (can't even remember her name) about the way she looked? Remember all the shots he took at Jeb Bush and even Jeb's wife? Over and over headlines said Trump dug a hole so deep he'll never get out. Same as you just said. But he did. He did because he connected with millions and millions who view today's Democratic party as an enemy of the state. Trump is setting up a decision between him and these four. In those 5 or 6 critical states that basically decide who the President is, that's a smart move. Those four look like modern day versions of Jane Fonda during Vietnam. If the Democrats nominate someone who's going to give free healthcare to illegals, eliminate college debt for basket weaving degrees, college tuition for illegals, reparations, free homes for blacks, etc..... then Trump just contrast himself against those ideas and these four.... That's an easy choice for a lot of people to make for a lot of people in PA, WI, MN, IA, MO, OH and FL too for that matter. His chances just improved a little more. |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 09:21:12 477572636475625D71627B100 wrote:
Keep telling yourself that. But be prepared for the worst. |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by WebsterMark on 07/16/19 at 10:21:56 To you and those that think like you, perhaps. But to a majority of the country, it doesn't. The number of new, 18 year old voters in 2020 will be enormous thanks to social media. How many will grow up and turn away from the rebellious politics of their youth? I did. I voted for Bill Clinton the first time. Then I got married, had a kid and a real job with fiscal responsibilities and reevaluated things. I choose the conservatives / Republican ideology. Do discount that phenomenon as its common. There is a reason why the saying exist: If you're not a liberal when you're 20 you don't have a heart, if you're not a conservative when you're 40, you don't have a brain. There's a lot of truth in that. |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by WebsterMark on 07/16/19 at 10:24:04 And again - how can a sitting president, with this economy poll so low? Because he's despised by the majority of the people. How could the hand-picked successor of a president who was so wonderful (as you keep telling me) lose to someone like Donald Trump? Do polls really matter all that much? If they do, then consider this, Trump is polling higher now than when he was when he won in 2016. |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by WebsterMark on 07/16/19 at 10:28:06 Keep telling yourself that. But be prepared for the worst. If he loses it will be a disappointment but that's the extent of it. You won't see mass crying and safe spaces set aside on college campuses for conservatives who just can't grasp how this could've happened like we saw when Hillary lost. Which are still some of the funniest all-time videos! however, if Trump wins against Harris and the queer guy for example, it's almost guaranteed there will be rioting. It won't be just funny videos of people crying, the left will turn violent. |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 10:50:37 4D7F78696E7F68577B68711A0 wrote:
No, there's really not - especially in this day and age. People are more connected than ever, for better or worse. Information, communication, opinion is spread faster than ever before. I highly doubt that a guy like Kennedy would never be elected to office today. Neither would nixon. trump eked out a win in the electoral by about 70K votes. To think that base is still there after all that he's tweeted is almost laughable. By the time the democrats coalesce on a candidate, he'll probably have done even more damage to himself. Whoever that candidate will be will have the upper hand in every single debate. Where you somehow see his chances improving, I see them declining. The funny thing is, we're using the same set of variables to make these determinations. I think it's safe to say, yours are deeply rooted in defense of trump, mine are simply rooted in the facts. |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by WebsterMark on 07/16/19 at 10:55:24 Hmm... so even though you're older than me, your first time voting was for Clinton? Either you lied about your age previously . I'm 58. I didn't say my first vote was for Clinton. I said I voted for Clinton the first time he ran. My first vote would have been for Jimmy Carter as I recall. or shame on you for not voting until you were nearly 30 Or shame on your for being _______ fill in the blank. |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 10:59:15 615354454253447B57445D360 wrote:
He is?(actually mark, he's not polling higher, but pretty much the same) Well, that's not a good thing this time around. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/here-s-most-important-number-trump-s-re-election-bid-n1029846 |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 11:04:30 7E4C4B5A5D4C5B64485B42290 wrote:
No, it won't. But I understand that conservatives will say anything to put fear in their base. You're just being you. |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by WebsterMark on 07/16/19 at 11:04:47 Where you somehow see his chances improving, I see them declining. The funny thing is, we're using the same set of variables to make these determinations. I think it's safe to say, yours are deeply rooted in defense of trump, mine are simply rooted in the facts. I think any fair review of our predictions over the past couple of years would show you read one set of 'facts' that could be taken off SNL and assume they are absolutely true. I've lost count of how many times you said 'Mark my words, by so and so date, so and so will be in jail." Seriously, should we go back and check all those times you said this is the end for Trump? He won't win the nomination, he won't win the election, he won't take office, he'll resign by so and so date..... Don't even get me started on my all time favorite you jumping on Don Jr and his perjury for talking to a reporter. That was funny! No, I wouldn't embarrass you like that. Look, take it from someone like me who lives in Realsville, USA; you need to expand your view a bit. There's no one on here more one sided than you. All of us have blinders on for our side but seriously, yours are as obvious as bright yellow 20' HotWheel tracks extended off the sides of your eyes! |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by WebsterMark on 07/16/19 at 11:07:16 Do polls really matter all that much? If they do, then consider this, Trump is polling higher now than when he was when he won in 2016. He is?(actually mark, he's not polling higher, but pretty much the same) Well, that's not a good thing this time around. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/here-s-most-important-number-t... Seriously, I don't think you read very well. Trump is polling higher now than when he was a candidate in 2016. The questions pollsters ask of a candidate and of a President aren't the same, but there is definitely a correlation that can be made between them. |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 11:07:39 5E6C6B7A7D6C7B44687B62090 wrote:
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by WebsterMark on 07/16/19 at 11:12:43 After this last go around with you, I think I've decided you're just not on the same level as me. You don't really know very much. You're been wrong on virtually everything the past couple of years. it's like wasting time talking to Rosie O'Donnell or something. After my accident, I've been shedding myself of useless things that bring no value and I've done pretty well for the most part. This darn website hangs on however. Have no idea why. But I can shed myself of you. If you actually show yourself to be right now and then, maybe I'll answer a post of yours in the far future. Hope so. As the Dean of Faber College said "Fat, dumb and stupid is no way to go through life son". You should take his words to heart friend. |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 11:16:45 0C3E39282F3E29163A29305B0 wrote:
Thanks, I'm good. In fact, I'm in the majority! You see mark, the only reason you seem to have a problem with me is that I've turned the tables on you and your conservative friends. The actual truth is, we liberals on here are the only ones without blinders on. You guys just blame us for what you all do every day. Anyone who sees these posts outside the "normal group" can see that. I can see it for myself in going back in the historical posts. It's fun to look at! I mean, seriously, you should go back and take a look at how crappy you guys treated anyone with an opposing view. hilarious! |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 11:21:06 4E7C7B6A6D7C6B54786B72190 wrote:
(it's actually "fat, drunk and stupid", but whatever.) . Well I can say this, I am fat. I'll leave drunk and stupid to you. Nice try on a parting shot though. (if you could have only gotten the quote right...lol) Oh, well bless my heart... thank you mark... thank you for your wonderful send off.....and may God bless you.... ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 11:24:29 7C4E49585F4E59664A59402B0 wrote:
Seriously, I'm not sure where you get your data from... http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/5/18653800/trump-approval-rating-by-state-2020-election-odds |
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Title: Re: As predicted... Post by raydawg on 07/16/19 at 13:24:30 033136272031261935263F540 wrote:
I agree.....and his act resonated as a extension of that disenfranchisement..... Now, its getting like a rerun, and vulnerable to another perceived outsider who can grab that energy which is still very strong on both sides who dislike all the drama and BS, grandstanding, while real problems beyond personality conflicts, get ignored.... |
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